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Windows => Third Party Plug-ins, Programs, and Skins => Topic started by: Lespaul on December 16, 2011, 07:12:11 am
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We would like to announce that we will be releasing a new app shortly that will let you control MC from any iOS device running iOS 3.0 or later.
Features include browsing artists, albums ,playlists and videos as well as a dedicated search. In addition JRemote includes a virtual touchpad that will let you take full control of JRiver`s theater view.
Please visit http://www.jremote.net (http://www.jremote.net) for more information and screenshots.
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Great to see another iOS app...a little competition is always a good thing.
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will it allow users to play on their IOS devices as well, like gizmo does?
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This is great news!
Good luck and let us know if you need anything.
(p.s. is it built on the web service (MCWS) just like Gizmo?)
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Some more information regarding who "We" are might be nice?
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Looks cool. I will try any control app. Any ideas regarding the release date?
One more question... will you be able to make an appointment with the Play Doctor with this app?
-Patrick
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"We" are actually just me and my girl, plus it sounds better than I:)
Matt:
Yes, it is built on the web service like gizmo. Very nice service to work with.
I may actually send you an email regarding a few questions i have.
xtacbyme:
It does not at this time. Will have to investigate how this can be done for a later release.
pcstockton:
Sorry, no doctor in this release, I have noted it down as a feature request.
In this first version we focused on creating a solid platform with fast navigation and predictable behavior.
The other "nice to have" features will appear in upcoming versions.
I can't promise that there won't be any bugs in this first release, Its hard to test every possible situation.
But you can be sure they will be fixed as soon as possible if you find one.
BTW, looks like the app will be available in the App Store within 24 hours according to apple.
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Well i've already purchased a ios remote app for GF and her apple devices, if ya beat them in making a playing now, we'll move over to yours. Great to see more options for I users!
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In this first version we focused on creating a solid platform with fast navigation and predictable behavior.
That is always the best approach. I am mostly interested in the first version how fluent it will be with scrolling of large lists. That is the main drawback in basic functionality I see with the my river app when compared to the squeezebox native apps for ios.
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You can save Play Doctor lists as "Playcharts" and access them like other playlists and smartlists. So there's a good chance it'll just work.
It'd be neat to be able to say "Play with Play Doctor" or to type a search and give it to Play Doctor, but this isn't currently supported by MCWS (and by extension Gizmo).
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That is always the best approach. I am mostly interested in the first version how fluent it will be with scrolling of large lists. That is the main drawback in basic functionality I see with the my river app when compared to the squeezebox native apps for ios.
I can seriously say that this is one of the areas I spent the most amount of time on. I think I have implemented every trick in the book. Album images BTW, are downloaded asynchronously and cached in memory, so they won't affect performance. I don't notice any lag on my iPhone4 or iPad.
The only moment you will notice a delay is the initial loading of a new list, after that it will be cached for later use.
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Well i've already purchased a ios remote app for GF and her apple devices, if ya beat them in making a playing now, we'll move over to yours. Great to see more options for I users!
I`m not sure i understand what you mean by "Playing Now"?
If you mean a view with playback controls, cover image etc, It´s already there. Please check the images on our website.
If you meant something else, I`m sorry.
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the ability like gizmo for I users to play anything from there jriver servers on their I devices.
instead of just control them.
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the ability like gizmo for I users to play anything from there jriver servers on their I devices.
instead of just control them.
I`m not sure that is possible without DLNA, somebody correct me if i`m wrong.
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JRemote is now available in the app store if anyone wants to give it a try
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JRemote is now available in the app store if anyone wants to give it a try
Ok. I gave it a short spin.
The positive. List loading is very fast and scrolling very fluent. This one feels like a native app. Good work!
The negative. I have setup custom view schemes under media network for audio and video. They display correctly in my river. In your app under artists I see a list of my tv shows and not music artists. Under Movies I see the list with views from video but when I try to select something it will say loading tracks and then the app crashes.
I prefer my river's setup of audio, images and video instead of artists, albums and movies tabs. That way we can take advantage of one of jrivers strong points...fully customized view schemes.
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I like your website. It's very clean and professional.
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Ok. I gave it a short spin.
The positive. List loading is very fast and scrolling very fluent. This one feels like a native app. Good work!
The negative. I have setup custom view schemes under media network for audio and video. They display correctly in my river. In your app under artists I see a list of my tv shows and not music artists. Under Movies I see the list with views from video but when I try to select something it will say loading tracks and then the app crashes.
I prefer my river's setup of audio, images and video instead of artists, albums and movies tabs. That way we can take advantage of one of jrivers strong points...fully customized view schemes.
Hi, Thanks for the good information.
I`m sorry to hear about your initial experience. JRemote is made this way to make it more like the iTunes Remote application. JRiver web service kinda forces you into using a splash screen for initial navigation, so JRemote tries to overcome this by doing some extra web service calls when connecting. But i guess the downside is that JRemote expects the regular menu setup in return.
I see now that this is a problem for users like you that like to customize the setup. I`ll look at a way to make this work. The most likely solution is maybe to have two different "modes" of navigation.
Where one mode uses JRiver predefined navigation setup.
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I`m not sure that is possible without DLNA, somebody correct me if i`m wrong.
Take a look at WebPlay.
Congratulations on your release! And thanks for your work!
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I see now that this is a problem for users like you that like to customize the setup. I`ll look at a way to make this work. The most likely solution is maybe to have two different "modes" of navigation.
Where one mode uses JRiver predefined navigation setup.
That would be great. My guess is that a lot jriver users have some kind of custom view schemes. And if you keep them under those 3 main headers like my river does you can still have a logical and clean looking set of tabs for your interface. Also I think if you dont follow the setup under media network then force it to use the default scheme and dont pick up any chances made by the user in mc.
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Beautiful work so far -- it already feels polished which makes for a nice UX.
Couple things I noticed while I test drove it this morning:
- As others have mentioned, support for Custom Views would be fantastic. I have many views setup for classical music as I rarely ever browse by album.
- When viewing an album, can you add a conditional to hide Artist and the trailing comma in the header if one isn't present? It'll make it cleaner for us classical folk.
- When viewing an album, most tracks show up as 0:00 and the total album count above is obviously incorrect.
Thats it for now I think.. again, thanks for the effort put into the app -- it shows.
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Take a look at WebPlay.
Congratulations on your release! And thanks for your work!
Will do, and thanks:)
Couple things I noticed while I test drove it this morning:
Thanks for the feedback durafle. Custom view integration is definitely on the priority list right now.
However, the next 2 releases will feature full cover art browsing in grid view, "play now" option dialog and a couple of bug fixes.
Will look at custom views after that.
Strange that duration is not shown correct though, i have not yet experienced that. Anything special about the tracks that are shown without duration?
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Strange that duration is not shown correct though, i have not yet experienced that. Anything special about the tracks that are shown without duration?
I'll double check when I get home from work, but i seem to recall only 1 track per album showing a time, the rest displayed 0:00
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Pricing discussion was split (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68550.0)
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It wouldn't hurt to post a notice on the AVSForum thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1352282
It would be nice if you could start a new thread for your software on that board and link to it from the main thread. Or link to this thread.
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Great! Very fast scrolling
In Artist view shows nothing
In Album view it shows the list of artists
When I choose video JRemote crashes
Maybe a future wish is folder view possible?
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Great! Very fast scrolling
In Artist view shows nothing
In Album view it shows the list of artists
When I choose video JRemote crashes
Maybe a future wish is folder view possible?
probably related to ")p("`s problem, do you use custom view schemes as well?
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yes, only thing that I'd like to see is the alfabet characters to jump back or forward on my pc
but i will try to get back at default see what happens :D
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Please do.
I`m gonna have look at the problem with custom view schemes tonight, but I can't promise it will be fixed in the next version.
Worst case it might require quite a bit of work.
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Please do.
I`m gonna have look at the problem with custom view schemes tonight, but I can't promise it will be fixed in the next version.
Worst case it might require quite a bit of work.
You may know this already, but you should be able to use the MCWS/v1/Browse functions to handle browsing. This will honor user configured views.
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Hi Matt, I do, and thats the web service request I use.
But at the same time i need the menu options to fit it into tabs with artists,albums etc.
I`m looking at options on how to elegantly solve this.
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Here's my wish list before I can purchase/use this:
The ability to see and change ratings from the playing now screen. Also need to see the ratings next to song titles while browsing within albums.
Looking forward!
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Here's my wish list before I can purchase/use this:
The ability to see and change ratings from the playing now screen. Also need to see the ratings next to song titles while browsing within albums.
Looking forward!
Thanks wombat, definitely on my to-do list.
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I played some more with it. If I revert to the default scheme under media network artists and albums work ok. Movies still crashes for me when selecting an item there on loading tracks.
From further experimenting I learned that you can have your own view schemes under audio as long as the first two are the default ones artist and albums and your first 3 views are audio, images and video.
I think I found a bug. When I press and hold an album link under artists the app will crash.
The search works fine but what I would really like is the same behavior as in the desktop app. When you type something it first presents you with some suggestions of matched tags (artist, album, director) and only then with the long list of files that match the query. I dont know if the api has access to this list of suggestions. If not that would be a great thing for Matt to add to it. It will make search so much more useful on tablets.
As I said before the loading is fast. And it has the look and feel of an ios native app. I especially like the way the list is presented in now playing...nice touch.
Ok thats its from me for now I will come back to it when custom view schemes at least under the main headers audio, images and video work.
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You are right about your observation regarding the view order. I will put up more information about this on the web site.
I´m currently working on implementing a default browse feature that will work with your custom schemes as well.
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You are right about your observation regarding the view order. I will put up more information about this on the web site.
I´m currently working on implementing a default browse feature that will work with your custom schemes as well.
Great to know!
Today I also played with the iphone version. All the basics are really well implemented and it looks great. A real pleasure to use.
In the iphone version I saw that you use the default way to change the buttons on the lower button row. If you add that to the ipad you could have an easy way to add buttons for audio, images and video. The user can then have them anyway he/she likes. You could even add some more nice standard views besides artists and albums that most people use. For example for movies and tv series.
If you go that way then I have one more suggestion. Imho the settings button is a little too prominent in the interface. If you make it one of the buttons it could go under the "more" list. And for people that want fast access to it. For example to fast change servers. They can pin it as one of the default ones in the lower row of buttons.
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Hi P, that way to organize tabs is a built in feature of all iPhone apps. Its the same on the iPad if you have too many tabs to fit in the view.
I may add more of those tabs, but they do require that the user has a default view scheme setup.
Btw, here are the details for the next version (1.02) that has been submitted to Apple for review:
Added:
- New browse tab. Navigate your media the way you are used to
from inside JRiver Media Center.
- Touch and hold an album or track to access a play option dialog.
Fixed:
- Zero track duration bug
- Various bug fixes
As you can see, the regular way of browsing has now been added. That should help quite a few people.
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As you can see, the regular way of browsing has now been added. That should help quite a few people.
Thanks. That was fast :)
For fun I tried the remote functionality tonight in our theater with the htpc there. No problems there, it worked as advertised.
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Hi P, that way to organize tabs is a built in feature of all iPhone apps. Its the same on the iPad if you have too many tabs to fit in the view.
I may add more of those tabs, but they do require that the user has a default view scheme setup.
Btw, here are the details for the next version (1.02) that has been submitted to Apple for review:
Added:
- New browse tab. Navigate your media the way you are used to
from inside JRiver Media Center.
- Touch and hold an album or track to access a play option dialog.
Fixed:
- Zero track duration bug
- Various bug fixes
As you can see, the regular way of browsing has now been added. That should help quite a few people.
Hello LesPaul,
Will the play option work the same, with just more options, with the future update of the play dialog? What I really REALLY like in your remote is the ability to just touch the song and It plays and no need for a option window to choose to play. I really like the fact that I just can touch and play song 6 (or whatever) and the following songs keeps playing afterwards even If I go to other apps or browse in Safari on the iPad. With PlugPlayer, If I "close" It and go to other apps, after the song is over It just stop If I haven't done a playlist prior. I know It is a detail but It bugs me so much that I don't use It anymore because of that. Same thing with My River, always the need for the open play option window to play anything. Drives me crazy!
So bottom line, If I just touch the song and don't hold, will It work just the same way It does now? I am okay with more options If I decide to hold but If I don't (hold) I would much prefer It stays the same as It is now.
Just my 2 cents here...
Thanks!
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Hi Dummy, if you just touch a song or album, the behavior will be the same as before. You need to hold for a second to display the play option dialog.
If you didn`t know about it, you would`t know its there.
BTW, The new version is now available in the app store so you can try it yourself.
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Hi Dummy, if you just touch a song or album, the behavior will be the same as before. You need to hold for a second to display the play option dialog.
If you didn`t know about it, you would`t know its there.
BTW, The new version is now available in the app store so you can try it yourself.
Thanks LesPaul!
The new version is up and running... You're right, It works just like the "old" one. GREAT!!! With the new hold option, I may even finally try to learn how to do playlists... But for now I am VERY happy that It works as before and as with MC.
A few questions... When cover browsing will be available, will It work just like MC works? Cover Artist/touch/All cover art for every albums/touch album/song list?
That's what I never liked with Apple's Remote: Artist/touch/album list. My Bjork folder has 84 albums so it's a lot of scrolling when I want Volta! Much faster with all cover art albums. Hence why I always preferred MC logical layout.
Also, not that I am using It that much but, when using search, If I write Bjork, all songs appears in a manner that I don't quite understand the logic. Would perhaps prefer seeing all albums then touch to choose whatever I'm looking for. Just a suggestion. Like I said, I don't use It often anyway but might be convenient for guests looking for something more broad.
Also, not really your problem/expertise per see but, do I always have to set MC each time to server mode? So far, every time I reboot my pc, I have to open MC at first then set server mode for It to connect the first time around. Am I doing something wrong or is it just the way It works?
Lastly (about time, huh?!), any idea about a release time for cover art browsing? A few days, weeks, months? I am curious... and I just can't wait!
Have I told you how much I LOOOOOOVE JRemote?!
You're DA MAN Monsieur!
Keep up the great work.
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Hi Dummy, if you just touch a song or album, the behavior will be the same as before. You need to hold for a second to display the play option dialog.
If you didn`t know about it, you would`t know its there.
BTW, The new version is now available in the app store so you can try it yourself.
Browsing my views works perfectly. A few suggestions:
-One thing you probably know on the track level it does not show thumbnails. It looks great as it is for audio files. But for video and image files I would expect to see thumbnails there.
-The browsing doesnt seem to use the sorting as setup in the views. For example I have a view that uses sort by random and it is displayed alphabetically. It shows correctly in my river.
-I would love to have the alphabetical index for longer alphabetically sorted lists and the dotted one for longer other lists for browsing my views like you have setup for the artists and albums tabs.
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For fun I tried the remote functionality tonight in our theater with the htpc there. No problems there, it worked as advertised.
I just downloaded JRemote and I think it's fantastic. I will be keeping a close eye on this one.
I have found that the "remote" option seems to work correctly in theatre view when the screen is in display view. i.e. playing a video or showing music playback visualisations. i.e. swiping left/right/up/down on the pad navigates the options correctly BUT as soon as I go back to the theatre view menus (playing now, Audio,Video etc. I cannot navigate up/down through the items.
I am assuming that this functionality is supposed to work like the big 5 buttons on a standard IR remote. i.e. <,^,>,v, Enter.
Is this a problem with the App, my MC PC or a setting somewhere. I am running MC17.0.50beta.
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Dummy, cover art browsing will come, but its quite hard to do well. I can't promise when it will be there, but we are talking weeks at most.
Regarding "Media server mode" always on, i`m looking for a way to do this myself, maybe some JRiver staff can answer.
Search options are limited by what the web server returns. I would like an option to at least group results into artists, albums and tracks. This is not possible with the web server, as it will only return a list of tracks. I could group the results myself, but it may potentially be very slow if there are lots of tracks returned. Will look at this later.
Also, Thanks for the kind words:)
P:
- About thumbnails, they will be there in the next version.
- this must be a problem with the JRiver media server, since i only display what is returned. I can do some tests myself on this.
- I`m sorry about missing indexes for the browse tab, I realized this the day after i has submitted the app to apple. It will be there in the next version for sure.
Brian:
Glad that you like it. I have not experienced problems with the remote myself, I´m using v17 as well. Are you saying the remote only works in "display" view, and never in "theatre" view?
BTW guys, I would like your input on something for the next version.
Is it OK if I remove the artist and album tabs and replace them with an "Audio" tab? The content will be the same as if you go to the "browse" tab and press audio.
By doing this it will no longer be required to have artist and album listed as the top two items in "customize Views" in MC. I don't like to force people into changing their preferences for JRemote to work correctly. It would then be a separate tab for "Audio", "Video", "Images" and "Playlists". This would also make the browse tab unnecessary.
This is pretty much the same way other JRiver remotes work.
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Brian:
Glad that you like it. I have not experienced problems with the remote myself, I´m using v17 as well. Are you saying the remote only works in "display" view, and never in "theatre" view?
I used it today on another htpc in our living room and it worked ok switching between theater and display view.
The one thing that I miss is a way to emulate having the arrow keys pressed for fast scrolling. Not sure how that could be elegantly done. In the ipad the rectangle is large enough to make the outer section a key down when pressed. Or maybe when you make a flick and then hold the finger down that it keeps scrolling until you release it.
BTW guys, I would like your input on something for the next version.
Is it OK if I remove the artist and album tabs and replace them with an "Audio" tab? The content will be the same as if you go to the "browse" tab and press audio.
By doing this it will no longer be required to have artist and album listed as the top two items in "customize Views" in MC. I don't like to force people into changing their preferences for JRemote to work correctly. It would then be a separate tab for "Audio", "Video", "Images" and "Playlists". This would also make the browse tab unnecessary.
For me that is my preferred setup for jremote to have "Audio", "Video", "Images" and "Playlists" as the standard tabs. So yes. And the best argument is indeed that its the way jriver itself is setup by default. Having artists and albums as main tabs makes most sense for audio only gui's. But really I think you should go for what you think is best for the way you intent this gui is going to be developed. We only are a few first adapters ;)
Search options are limited by what the web server returns. I would like an option to at least group results into artists, albums and tracks. This is not possible with the web server, as it will only return a list of tracks. I could group the results myself, but it may potentially be very slow if there are lots of tracks returned. Will look at this later.
As I suggested before I think the best idea is talk to Matt directly. The way the desktop client generates organized search suggestions is very fast. If he could expose those same results to the api you are all set and have something very useful. I use the search all the time on the desktop client.
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Dummy, cover art browsing will come, but its quite hard to do well. I can't promise when it will be there, but we are talking weeks at most.
Regarding "Media server mode" always on, i`m looking for a way to do this myself, maybe some JRiver staff can answer.
Search options are limited by what the web server returns. I would like an option to at least group results into artists, albums and tracks. This is not possible with the web server, as it will only return a list of tracks. I could group the results myself, but it may potentially be very slow if there are lots of tracks returned. Will look at this later.
Also, Thanks for the kind words:)
P:
- About thumbnails, they will be there in the next version.
- this must be a problem with the JRiver media server, since i only display what is returned. I can do some tests myself on this.
- I`m sorry about missing indexes for the browse tab, I realized this the day after i has submitted the app to apple. It will be there in the next version for sure.
Brian:
Glad that you like it. I have not experienced problems with the remote myself, I´m using v17 as well. Are you saying the remote only works in "display" view, and never in "theatre" view?
BTW guys, I would like your input on something for the next version.
Is it OK if I remove the artist and album tabs and replace them with an "Audio" tab? The content will be the same as if you go to the "browse" tab and press audio.
By doing this it will no longer be required to have artist and album listed as the top two items in "customize Views" in MC. I don't like to force people into changing their preferences for JRemote to work correctly. It would then be a separate tab for "Audio", "Video", "Images" and "Playlists". This would also make the browse tab unnecessary.
This is pretty much the same way other JRiver remotes work.
Thanks LesPaul!
I can't wait for cover art browsing but It will come when It will come... One thing that might be good is, like in My River, to have the choice to do cover browsing and/or list browsing. Having both options could be fun although cover browsing is premium for me. Then again, maybe It's just me! ?
Like Brian, the remote only works in Theater Mode here also. It will switch to regular view and display view but the "mouse" doesn't work with those 2. Only on Theater View does the mouse work. MC16 here though. Not that I care that much since I only try It for fun and Its not really an important feature for me. Still, I understand It might be important for others.
One very small glitch I have here, and It is somewhat trivial but just so you know, having a few albums in different incarnations (regular, remastered, special edition, etc), I saw today that If I switch between different editions of the same album, playing the same song, the info title will stay the same.
I have 3 Kate Bush Hounds Of Love. The original one, the remastered one and the 2011 edition. All are tagged differently for the title (original, remastered, 2011). If I switch between the 3 playing the SAME song, the title will stay the same for each. But I can hear the difference in sound, so I know It's not the same album. Yet If I switch between editions AND songs, It works fine and the title changes. A bit odd but really no biggy. I did try with a few different editions I have and the same thing happened.
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As for the change you want to make in the audio/artists tabs, I am fine with that as long as the one you decide to keep will still have the A-Z/up/down small list on the right which I use a lot and that is the only thing missing for me with MC so far. Artist/Albums have It now but not the new browse tab.
There you go Monsieur. I do hope you take my suggestions as such, just suggestions. It is your project and not mine. I hope I don't come too foward. Its just that It's the first time that I am REALLY excited about a remote! I've been waiting forever for this and I just can't believe how great and fuc*** convenient It is already even without cover art browsing. The speed is truly amazing and that little dark background detail is just brilliant for me! I know It's a detail but... I really like It. The whole thing is so darn visually appealing for once!
Thank you Monsieur.
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For me that is my preferred setup for jremote to have "Audio", "Video", "Images" and "Playlists" as the standard tabs. So yes. And the best argument is indeed that its the way jriver itself is setup by default. Having artists and albums as main tabs makes most sense for audio only gui's. But really I think you should go for what you think is best for the way you intent this gui is going to be developed. We only are a few first adapters ;)
I do agree with above quote
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Glad that you like it. I have not experienced problems with the remote myself, I´m using v17 as well. Are you saying the remote only works in "display" view, and never in "theatre" view?
Correct. When I am in display view the remote allows me to flick up/down & left/right to utilize the ff & rewind volume, change visualisations etc. All of the buttons (on the ipad remote screen) to go between the main menu items work (I.e. audio, video, playing now etc. but when I get to that location I am stuck and the flick/swipe functionality just simply doesn't move the selection on the TV. I assume it should.
My other question/hope for this app is that it will one day support streaming of all media content from the server to the device (iPhone and iPad). I have both and would love to be able to stream server music to my phone and video (recorded and live) to the iPad. I am not a software guru but I am assuming this could be relatively easy by making the app a DLNA renderer (I may be being relatively naive thinking this though).
Anyway, great work and I look forward to upgrading to the next release.
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I purchased this program yesterday and like it very much.
It is solid and fast, never missing a cover art. I especially like the Playing Now UI for the music and its native support for foreign characters. Now Playing Button on the top right corner during browsing for extremely easy access is heaven as well. I was originally using iPad+Splashtop RD+MC Theater view for remote control. Now will use this native app for sure. ;D
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/1.jpg)
If there is a dedicated iPad version in the future. I have some suggestions (or biased/selfish demand in disguise ;D), wish it could help.
Current UI brings user to "Browsing" Section upon start which leave most of the iPad screen blank. I would add an option to let program jump directly to the category user last browsed. Small icon and text combination works well for iphone browsing.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/2.jpg)
Bigger icon or pure text looks better on iPad, IMHO. My mockup below. Program could choose random artist/album cover art and movie poster to be on the browsing page. Recently Added section might help fill the blank too.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/10.jpg)
Would bottom row be fully configurable in the future?
For me,I would put Audio, Movie, TV Show, Play List, Images,Radio on the bottom row.
Current Artist view UI is iTunish and very fast. Since I have large collections of classic music. I want something different. :P Below is my mocked up UI for the artist view for iPad. It utilize JRiver unique features which allow cover art for Artist and artist biography field. This is a purely selfish feature request ;D since it is not easy to realize this view under MC.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/3.jpg)
In MC Theater view, user could create a Category to combine Album Artist, Conductor, Band, or any custom database field.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/7.jpg)
This function is very useful to organize Audio. In the case of Artist browsing, I could create a category name “Artist” as an umbrella for Conductor, Band, Orchestra, Violinist, Album artist etc,. field. It would be much easier to locate an artist comparing to rely solely on an album artist field.
By combining field with similar nature together under a single category, it would also make a simpler UI.
For the album view, current cover art thumbnail is perfect for iphone/itouch browsing but too small for Ipad browsing. My mock up below. Album is filtered by the Genre field.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/4.jpg)
I would recommend author disable the "Tracking Number" column before the movie/video titles.
Add "Year" field or IMDB rating field after the movie title would help as well.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/5.jpg)
Movie UI could be more fancy for iPad if utilizing cover art and fan art feature.
IMHO, XBMC Constellation iPad remote’s movie UI is well done. User could even access IMDB/youtube trailer page directly.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/6.jpg)
The Playing Now UI for movies need to have Subtitles and Audio Track Control Button. Movie Fanart, plot, rating, tech details could be shown in the cover art space. If bookmarking and trailer feature could be added in the future, that would be fantastic. ;D I know I ask too much. :P
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/8.jpg)
BTW, maybe it is only me but during browsing Artist and Album, I was always trying to get to the previous category or screen by mistakenly click the “Settings” on the top left corner.
Is it possible to configure that button to function as previous category and move the Settings button to the bottom row?
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- Touch and hold an album or track to access a play option dialog.
Thank you so much for this feature.
I am wondering if it is possible to let user configure the default behavior when click a song in an album?
Here's my wish list before I can purchase/use this:
The ability to see and change ratings from the playing now screen. Also need to see the ratings next to song titles while browsing within albums.
Looking forward!
Access and change song rating directly from iPad remote and an option to disable showing of All Albums(Artists,etc,.) are also very welcomed features. ;D
Thanks again for this great app!
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Just finished experimenting with iTunes remote and the Apple TV. The killer feature for me is Airplay which permits me to browse an iTunes library with my iPad and then play audio and video on my TV via the Apple TV over a mediocre wireless network.
JRiver is far superior to iTunes so I am hoping to not have to import all of my media into iTunes.
Are you planning to support Airplay in a future version of JRemote?
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hdplex, wow, thats some nice work there.
I`ll be sure to use your suggestions as inspiration for future updates. But please be aware that the webservice i use to access information does not provide the whole JRiver Media Center functionality. In some areas its quite limited.
The next version soon ready for the app store will be a small update and includes the following functionality:
- View and add ratings
- Clear current playlist from the play options popup
- Browse, artist and album tab replaced with audio tab
I will now start to work on better iPad specific features starting with a new layout. I have though a lot about this already, and the iTunes remote for iPad seems to be a good source of inspiration.
After that, i will work on cover art browsing.
I do read all your suggestions, and i will try to incorporate everything in future updates, but i feel i need to finish the UI and basic browsing before starting to work on other features.
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Downloaded this to my ipod touch; although it navigates quite well it crashes when switching to the nowplaying page, which rather renders it useless!
Media centre 17.0.60
8G ipod touch ios 4.2.1
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Downloaded this to my ipod touch; although it navigates quite well it crashes when switching to the nowplaying page, which rather renders it useless!
Same issue on my Ipad. Any ideas?
MC 17.0.60
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I just saw this thread, purchased your app, and am downloading now. I'm very interested. Thank you!
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Correct. When I am in display view the remote allows me to flick up/down & left/right to utilize the ff & rewind volume, change visualisations etc. All of the buttons (on the ipad remote screen) to go between the main menu items work (I.e. audio, video, playing now etc. but when I get to that location I am stuck and the flick/swipe functionality just simply doesn't move the selection on the TV. I assume it should.
Bump!
Anyone with similar experiences or suggestions?
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I'm a little bummed out. I bought this app yesterday after excitedly seeing this thread, but I can't use it at all.
I need to add my server using a URL:port format. I have a real fqdn for my server that works both inside and outside my network, and I don't need JRiver to look up a dynamic IP address for me. I tried using the Access Key last night to get this app to work, but it kept giving me a connection error (suggesting something about the authentication, but I know the info I was using was correct).
So... I can't even get it to open. :(
We really need the ability to add a server using a <IP/FQDN>:<PORT> style in addition to the existing Access Key method, or it will be useless for some users.
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Glynor,
Stupid question but.... do you have authentication enabled in MC Library/Network settings?
-Patrick
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great update. Cheers!
Curious.... when in Artist view, ALL of the Bands stating with "The" are lumped together before "A". any thoughts? this is strange.
Thanks in advance!
Patrick
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I'm having a similar problem to Glynor in that I can't get the app to connect. The Access Key is recognised with no problem but authentication fails whether I have authentication enabled or disabled in MC.
If I turn authentication off in MC and leave the credentials boxes blank in JRemote I get - "Found your computer but authentication failed. If you have a username and password, please enter them and try again."
If I turn authentication on and enter the same details in JRemote I get - "Found your computer but authentication failed. Make sure all values are correct".
I've tried on my iPad and iPod Touch and get the same problem on both but I can connect through Gizmo on my Android phone.
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If you run Media Server, you may have to restart it as well as MC.
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Hi guys, the IOS4 crash bug is fixed in the new release, I`m really sorry about that one.
I will try to squeeze in a manual connection option as well, for those having problems with access keys.
A new feature that is also ready is an option to preload all images in a view. You can do this by pulling down and releasing a table.
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Hi, how do I get JRemote to display bit/sample rate on the now playing screen as shown in the screen shots? I'm using an IPad.
Thanks
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Stupid question but.... do you have authentication enabled in MC Library/Network settings?
Yes. And it works properly with both WebRemote/WebPlay/WebGizmo and using other copies of MC in client mode.
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Yes. And it works properly with both WebRemote/WebPlay/WebGizmo and using other copies of MC in client mode.
If I enable both wirelesss and wired connection on my PC, JRemote will show key is confirmed but connection failed. Once I disabled one of the connection and restart, it connects fine.
Hope this helps.
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Watching developments with much interest and hope. I will buy this the same day that you introduce AirPlay support.
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I was traveling over the holidays and am now able to sit down and play with this app more thoroughly.
A few [unrequested] observations:
- The "T" in the jump letters in "Artist" is placed between the Numerals and "A". ?
- When using the "mouse pad" in Theater View hitting "Next" only restarts the current track. But using the real mouse on the same button produces the correct effect.
Feature request..... Biography View from Last FM or Wikipedia?
Cheers! Thanks for the great app.
Patrick
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Hey,
I'm having a few issues with your app, some of which have already been mentioned.
- Swipe is not working *at all*
- App crashes when switching to playing now
- App shows entries from both the local and remote library. Im connected to a remote library, but Im seeing double entries for tracks that are also in my local (main) library. Preferably give a choice under settings or just show the active library.
- I miss an option to play an artists' entire album, all albums or an entire genre. All i see is play shuffle on all tracks in an album or playlist but I don't want to shuffle.
Features I miss:
- Add to playing now option
- save as playlist/add to existing playlist
- context menu when keeping something pressed down
- Info on items like artist/album, video.
I must be honest, for 10 dollars I expected something a bit more mature.
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- I miss an option to play an artists' entire album, all albums or an entire genre. All i see is play shuffle on all tracks in an album or playlist but I don't want to shuffle.
I also miss being able to right click "play as shuffled", or "play all" in Genres and Artists.
-Patrick
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
Here is the complete description for the next release currently submitted for review. Should be out in a few days.
Added:
- View and add ratings
- Option to register new server by IP address
- Preload all images in a view by pulling down on a table.
- Play options available from all items
- Clear current playlist added to play options
- Browse, artist and album tab replaced with audio tab
Fixes:
- Mutiple fixes for iOS4
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Feature request..... Biography View from Last FM or Wikipedia?
Artist bio and album data from Last Fm will be implemented in the next release.
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Thanks for the quick reply Lespaul.
Features are nice but I would appreciate some feedback on stuff that is not working (see my post above).
Both the swipe and being able to view/manipulate playing now are the main reasons I purchased the app and they are not working for me.
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Hi InflatableMouse,
Assuming you are using iOS4, your issues should be resolved in this update, there are a number of fixes there.
If not, please let me know.
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jump letters in artist view are not in order. "T" occurs before "A"
anyone else? Is this a "me problem" or is everyone getting this?
thx in advance,
-patrick
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Bought it- love it.
- fast, simple UI.
- logical layout
- my nephew could pick it up and use it without instructions.
changing tracks using jremote seams to do some ramdom stuff to theatre mode on the main screen, it sometimes shows the track being played and the relative album cover, but sometimes it just stays on the into page or plays that horrible graphic that comes up on all players when theres no graphic info available.The Iphone shows the correct info on the screen though.
I tunes like scrolling through album library would be nice, and future development of streaming to the iphone but thats nitpicking!
...update!-
one more thing thats a must- easy option to pause playback when you have a incoming call!! looking for the remote while you pick the call up was funny.
Good job, a must have!
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like the app so far.
missing a scroll bar (for moving in the song timeline) on playing now tho that would be really nice found it :)
also i dont understand the structure in "Browse" tap:
Audio
Media Library
Video
Playlist
then when opening "Media Library" again is listed Audio and video with same content.
(http://i.imgur.com/nAWbjl.png) (http://imgur.com/nAWbj)
artist tab only shows "video"
(http://i.imgur.com/2SUR0l.png) (http://imgur.com/2SUR0)
when browsing Browse>Audio>Artist is there away to quickly search for an artist? jump letters or a search field (preferably both) would be nice
(http://i.imgur.com/IntbCl.png) (http://imgur.com/IntbC)
curently using JMC only for audio so only testing part related to that :)
I like that the app is quite fast and layout is nice
it does seem to crash sometimes.
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missing a scroll bar (for moving in the song timeline) on playing now tho that would be really nice
It is there. Just like the Remote App. Single Click the screen and it pops up!
Works perfectly for me!
-Patrick
PS- is ANYONE else not getting their Artist Jump Letters in order?
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PS- is ANYONE else not getting their Artist Jump Letters in order?
My Artist Jump Letters is in order on ipad2 with iOS 5.01(MC16).
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It is there. Just like the Remote App. Single Click the screen and it pops up!
Works perfectly for me!
-Patrick
ah found it :D
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I like that the app is quite fast and layout is nice
it does seem to crash sometimes.
The crashing might have something to do with your jailbroken phone?
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not jailbroken
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not jailbroken
how do you run it on TMobile?
edit: You are not in the U.S. huh?
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Bought it because I figured out how to send audio to my stereo via Airfoil and Airport Express. Still hoping you implement AirPlay in the future with real-time video conversion so I can use MC with my Apple TV.
Initial impression for audio is very positive. Navigation and playing very nice. All audio features appear to work except "All Files" which chokes with empty list (but does not crash) on my 150k audio files.
Initial impression for video is poor. It is impossible to navigate my 22k video files without using Genre/Artist/Album/Name hierarchy. Not a big deal that video is unusable for me because until you implement AirPlay I will not be using it.
Overall happy with my purchase because audio remote control works well and will be very useful.
I do hope you find a way to use our custom views and custom fields in the future.
Thanks for a great app.
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PS- is ANYONE else not getting their Artist Jump Letters in order?
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Just downloaded the latest version 1.05
Me too the Jump Letters is a tad weird and not in order. Starts with A, then *\( and such, then 4 THEN 1 (1 should be before 4...) then BCD... It's clever the way It only shows what you have in your library though. No X titles, therefore no X letter. Nice touch.
Same thing with Albums and Artists. With albums, the numbers are all wrong. 13459287... Odd.
1 question for now:
Is It possible to get rid of the ratings? Or not show ratings at all? I looked up in MC and can't see that option. I never rated anything yet I see different ratings now. I guess some people like that but I find those little yellow stars tacky. Especially since I didn't rate anything in the first place.
1 suggestion:
Would be nice to see the bits also in the playing now. Not just the kHz.
One last thing, If I choose All Files, the app crashes every time. I don't know how many albums/files I have but I have at least 1200-1500 albums for sure. I use JRMC15 and iPad 1st gen.
Despite this nit'pick, I still think JRemote rules. Love It.
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
Here is the complete description for the next release currently submitted for review. Should be out in a few days.
Added:
- View and add ratings
- Option to register new server by IP address
- Preload all images in a view by pulling down on a table.
- Play options available from all items
- Clear current playlist added to play options
- Browse, artist and album tab replaced with audio tab
Fixes:
- Mutiple fixes for iOS4
Now that you replaced browse could we have an images tab? Especially when you add thumbnails browsing jremote will be an awesome way to select photo albums.
One small issue I saw. I have a view that returns my artists in random order. In the new version it does acknowledge the random setting but then orders all artists with the same letter together. So you get something like this:
M
My Bloody Valentine
Minuteman
Mastodon
C
Charlotte Gainsbourg
Chuck Berry
Cat Power
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great update
a lot 'cleaner' now
im a quick glance seems all of the weird things i had with multiple folders and empty fields are gone
got to say my tho jump letters are not entirely in order, A, (, 2,
(http://i.imgur.com/TDGB8l.png) (http://imgur.com/TDGB8)
how do you run it on TMobile?
edit: You are not in the U.S. huh?
Aah now i see where you were coming from, indeed not in the US
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how do you run it on TMobile?
edit: You are not in the U.S. huh?
FYI, since I see this error a lot. You can run unlocked iPhones on TMobile (even in the US), you are just stuck on EDGE and can't get 3G, because the iPhone doesn't support TMobile's 3G carrier frequencies. To be clear, unlocked is NOT the same thing as Jailbroken. You can BUY unlocked phones from Apple, and various jurisdictions require them to sell them (or offer them) unlocked (including Canada).
You can't run a phone "locked" to AT&T on T-Mobile in the US without unlocking the phone first. This is unsupported, of course, but only messes with the baseband firmware, and still isn't the same thing as a Jailbreak.
Of course, in this case, you were right. He wasn't in the US, and Apple does sell through TMobile in lots of countries.
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Glynor,
I do constantly make the mistake of mixing up "unlocked" and "jailbroken". And i do know the difference. My first iPhone was on TMobile with a 3G that was unlocked. It only lasted a few weeks though as I wasn't getting 3G service nor Visual Voicemail, which is one of my favorite functions.
Somehow I always forget all about that.
Also, the unlocked phone was fairly crashtacular..
Anyway....ignore me. I think I was hammered when I started that conversation.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Regarding Jump Letter Order:
I was getting strange ordering in both iPad and iPhone. So I tried turning off the "Ignore Articles" option in MC settings. This fixed the order issue but also then lumped all of the "The" together. This is OK but I was starting to get used to finding The Cure in "C".
Now after the update I am getting:
A
2
3
4
5
7
1
6
B
C
D....
One request....
Could you have all numericals in one group, shown as "#"?? I have like 10 artists with numerals to start their name and it is filling up a third of my jump letter space. Just a thought.
Thanks!!!!!!
Patrick
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Thanks for reporting on the weird section order. This will be corrected in the next release.
pstockton, nice suggestion regarding grouping all numbers into #.
BTW, I`m happy to report that cover art browsing will be ready sooner that i thought.
I´m sure this will be the prefered way to navigate for most people.
This will only be available on the iPad version as there really is too little space on the iPhone.
So, the next version will include cover art browsing and Last.FM integration.
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:D Great ! Looking forward to it.........
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So, the next version will include cover art browsing and Last.FM integration.
Great news. Really looking forward to this.
BTW, in the future, is it possible to have tree/list like browsing on half of the screen and corresponding album review/cover art on the other side.
Also, for the rating function. Would it be technically possible to have rating for each individual track besides the whole album?
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Hi,
Haven't bought the App yet, so maybe a stupid question: is it able to wake the server when it is suspended (WOL)?
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Maybe in a future release it might be an interesting feature to make the "taskbar" customizable.
so people can set the buttons they would actually use.
e.g. someone using only audio could set audio, albums, artist, and search and something else.
someone using pictures could add pictures.
basically have people choose what 5 buttons they are most likely to use like in apple remote (where its 4)
cheers!
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totally. I wont use JRemote for anything but audio. I would to be able to customize the taskbar as you can in the Remote App.
For example I would LOVE to have only Artist, Playlist, Genre.
Thanks!!!!!
Patrick
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Just did some testing with the new Gizmo feature. Gizmo has great promise but I prefer a native app over a browser on the iPad. If you have not already done so, please look at Gizmo's view configuration options. If you could do something similar JRemote would go from good to amazing. Also note that Gizmo supports AirPlay so perhaps adding it to JRemote won't be a huge effort.
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Also, for the rating function. Would it be technically possible to have rating for each individual track besides the whole album?
Big +1. In addition to using ratings to generate Smartlists, I rely on ratings to choose which tracks to play. Being able to see the rating for each individual track besides the whole album would be extremely useful.
BTW, I just purchased the latest JRemote, I love the smooth scrolling. I am however wondering if the star ratings shown on the Playing Now screen are broken? Changing a rating on the JRemote Playing Now screen is not being carried over to the host. Or maybe I'm not doing something right?
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If you have not already done so, please look at Gizmo's view configuration options. If you could do something similar JRemote would go from good to amazing.
Wow am I ever stupid. Just realized that the view config options for Gizmo also apply to JRemote. This is really really good!
I think JRiver needs to make a tweak. When a category is selected, the first item should be "All". For example, if the view has categories Genre and Artist then it should be possible to select all genres and proceed to the next level to choose an Artist.
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I am however wondering if the star ratings shown on the Playing Now screen are broken? Changing a rating on the JRemote Playing Now screen is not being carried over to the host. Or maybe I'm not doing something right?
enable authentication?
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I think JRiver needs to make a tweak. When a category is selected, the first item should be "All". For example, if the view has categories Genre and Artist then it should be possible to select all genres and proceed to the next level to choose an Artist.
I agree. I thought I had something wrong in my viewschemes for gizmo/jremote/etc. I miss the all option on each level in a view hierarchy the way its shown in theaterview. Especially with movies and images I tend to skip a level in the hierarchy by choosing all instead of the listed choices for that level.
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Weird, Im not getting an update in the appstore ?
Maybe EU/NL is behind the US in receiving updates?
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AWE-SOME app.
Downloaded the 1/5 version 1.05. It just cuts out / crashes occasionally. BY FAR the best remote control for j river, even despite the occasional crashes.
Consider this post a vote for this app. Worth the money, and some.
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Thanks guys for the valuable feedback.
The rating is actually per track, or did i misunderstand?
However, there is currently a bug in the iPhone version that causes the current rating not to update, so that can make it look like all subsequent tracks have the same rating.
Will be fixed in next version.
I see some of you want to customize the buttons. I can add that later, at least in the iPad version.
The iPad version will receive a few tweaks, like play controls etc at the top, and moving the navigation to the left side.
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Weird, Im not getting an update in the appstore ?
Maybe EU/NL is behind the US in receiving updates?
The appstore shows v1.05 as being available, but my (non functional) version is not showing an update. Presumably I could get the fix by spending another £7!
Not terribly impressed - broken program that won't update to an apparently fixed version.
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The appstore shows v1.05 as being available, but my (non functional) version is not showing an update. Presumably I could get the fix by spending another £7!
Not terribly impressed - broken program that won't update to an apparently fixed version.
That sounds like an appstore problem.
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The appstore shows v1.05 as being available, but my (non functional) version is not showing an update. Presumably I could get the fix by spending another £7!
Not terribly impressed - broken program that won't update to an apparently fixed version.
What version of iOS?
In pre 5.0 verslons when you delete the app and then download it again from the AppStore it says on the label of the install button the price. But when you actually download it you will get a popup that tells you that you already purchased it and if you want to download it again.
I would delete the app. Reboot the iPhone and then download it again from the AppStore.
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I have never seen Apple double charge for an app.
1) Make sure YOU are the one logged in to iTunes
2) Delete the app and redownload
3) Ignore the price of the app, it isn't going to charge you.
-Patrick
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Sigh....
Thanks for adding the feature to add the server by IP address. Unfortunately, this also doesn't really work for me. I have an actual, real, fully qualified domain name for my server. It does not, however, have a static IP address (I use DynDNS), and even if it did, I'd need to use a different IP inside my network than I would outside my network (which sometimes happens even at home if I happen to be on the "public" WiFi network I run). So, if I use a "fixed" IP address, I need to use 192.168.x.x from inside my home network, and my actual public IP (which is dynamic, so I'd have to look it up) when I'm on my public Wifi or outside my network. Using my DynDNS name solves that because I have a router/gateway that doesn't stink and can be configured properly.
Unfortunately, the way you implemented this, you can't add a named address, only an actual IP address (the numeric keyboard control comes up, rather than the regular one). My home server address is just like any address on the internet. It has a fully-qualified domain name. It works no matter where I am in the world, and no matter what network I'm on. I need to be able to put mc.glynor.com:PORT in, not whatever IP address mc.glynor.com happens to have at any particular moment (that's not actually my address, but it is similar).
Similarly, I have three or four different MC servers at the office that I'd like to be able to control. They are not externally accessible without VPN, but we have a DNS server and real, reachable machine names (machine.jax.org). Many of these have dynamic DHCP addresses, but DNS is always right. I'd like to add these too, but I can't (unless I figure out how to use the "key" system for those, which I haven't tried).
Sorry if I wasn't clear before... So many other Apps have similar functionality (like every VNC app out there) and I never even considered that you might implement it with numeric IP addresses only.
I reset the "key" thing in MC, and it generated a new one for me (which hadn't changed in a LONG time, probably since I initially tried the feature and it didn't work properly way back when it was first implemented). I haven't tried it with the new reset key yet because I never remember to do it when I'm sitting at the server machine (where I have access to the new key itself). But, even if I get it working, I really prefer not to rely on that system because it requires JRiver keep a server up and working. If I'm relying on MC to run something public at the office (I am, it runs our video display wall and other signage systems), I don't want to be stuck in a situation where my controller fails to work because JRiver decides to do maintenance on their server right at the exact moment the governor is visiting the office with a huge entourage.
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PS. Otherwise, I'm very excited to try this app. It will potentially solve a HUGE problem for me at the office.
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Thanks guys for the valuable feedback.
The rating is actually per track, or did i misunderstand?
Yes,you are correct.
I am wondering would it be possible to show rating when browsing an album?
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/11.jpg)
Rating helps me decide which song to add to the playing now list.
Thanks a lot. ;D
BTW, how could I enable JRemote to show "My customized grouping" under customized view for Gizmo,webremote ? Currently JRemote only show Audio,Image,Video, and Playlist.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/12.jpg)
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Okay... I've tried further. Still not working.
First, I thought I'd try setting it up using my server's local IP address. You can't. It doesn't work. The keyboard the control gives you is the phone-dialer style numeric keyboard.
...Which has no period key. Making it pretty darn hard to type in 192.168.anything.
I tried hitting the blank space on the bottom left of the keypad, but it does nothing. So, I thought, maybe I just type it in with no dots and including all significant digits, so I typed in 192168000020, and tried it, but that failed. It gave me an error saying it couldn't connect to the server.
So, that's broken.
Then, I tried to use my new access key. I'd reset MC's Access Key on my server using Options -> Media Network -> Access Key -> Reset. Got my new access key. I tested the access key first using my HTPC and my laptop on the same network. It works. I know what the username and password is...
I tried it in JRemote and, again, I got the can connect to server, but can't authenticate type error. Same as before, with a new, known working Access Key. So, it isn't related to that. I'm thinking that there is just something about my server configuration that makes it not work with JRemote. Nothing is set up that special inside my home network. Just your average 192.168.0.x LAN when you're on my secure WiFi, and it says it can connect so...
I'm thinking it might be this: I have special characters in my password. Double-check to be sure you are properly handling and transmitting special characters.
The only other thing I can think of is that I use a non-default port, but the Access Key provides the proper port when I use it on a PC with MC itself. And, again, the error it gives says that it finds the server, it just fails to connect.
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I just wanted to add quickly...
I hope I'm not coming across as a complainer. I'm really not upset. Certainly not about the $10. I'm more than happy to contribute the money towards the development of a nice iOS app for MC, especially since you seem to be responding to the feedback in this thread. I'm happy to help beta test this (and I'm bummed that I can't right now because I can't get it to connect).
We'll get there.
One other question... Right now, this is just a remote, right? Once you get that down pretty good, would you consider expanding it to add WebPlay (Gizmo style) functionality? That would be the dream, of course.
(And, by the way, if you do and it works well, that would be a good In-App Purchase candidate there. I wouldn't mind throwing you another few bucks for that.)
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The keyboard the control gives you is the phone-dialer style numeric keyboard.
Glynor,
I am bummed too that it isnt working for you. i have no issues on my end.
What do you mean by the above?
-Patrick
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Lespaul,
Thanks for fixing the wonky order of the jump letters. I was hoping this would also fix the issue I was seeing when I had MC ignoring "The" and "A" etc... So I switched back to ignoring those articles (my preferred setting), and the problem reappeared.
When MC is ignoring "The", the jump letters have "T" just after the numerals and before "A". Also all of the "The" artists are grouped at the beginning of "T".
Is there any chance this could be fixed?
Thanks!
Patrick
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Is there any chance this could be fixed?
Yes, please.
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What do you mean by the above?
Here's what I get when I try to add my server via its address:
(http://glynor.com/img/screenshots/JRemote-Add_Server_by_Address_Broken-thumb.png)
Click to embiggen. (http://glynor.com/img/screenshots/JRemote-Add_Server_by_Address_Broken.png)
Pretty hard to type a period with that keyboard. Like I said, I really don't want to put an IP address in at all, but a FQDN (server.foo.com:port style). But even if I wanted to add an IP, I cannot with this control.
Likewise, here is the error I get when I use my Access Key (access key itself blacked out to protect the guilty):
(http://glynor.com/img/screenshots/JRemote-Authentication_Error-thumb.png)
Click to embiggen. (http://glynor.com/img/screenshots/JRemote-Authentication_Error.png)
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glynor i just tried if i could paste into the ipadress field. it is possible to add non-numerical characters that way.Maybe you could try typing it elsewhere and copying in the ip field as work-around?
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Glynor,
Aha... I have not yet tried to connect via IP Address. I have only used the Access Key method.
FYI, Just last night I was helping out a buddy get all connected up with JRemote (he recently gave his server a static IP). It worked well right out of the gates.
Then I tried to reconfigure his PlugPlayer for remote use, to no avail. I could not get it to connect.
Then when I went back over the JRemote it gave us the SAME EXACT error you are showing below.
We gave up after about 6 beers and a few shots.
Strange.
Patrick
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FYI, his PC is Win7. I am wondering if there is some problem with the static IP because everything worked prior to that.
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FYI, his PC is Win7. I am wondering if there is some problem with the static IP because everything worked prior to that.
Like I said, mine isn't working even using the same Access Key that works fine from a copy of MC running on the same WiFi network.
I think something is broken in the authentication system. I bet it is special characters.
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New issue:
I am now getting Artist list inside of my Genre View. This wasn't happening a few days ago....
Strange.
-Patrick
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glynor i just tried if i could paste into the ipadress field. it is possible to add non-numerical characters that way.Maybe you could try typing it elsewhere and copying in the ip field as work-around?
Ha ha ha!
That worked. I'm in. For whatever reason, using the access key gives me that authentication error. But I typed out my hostname in the notes app, copied it, switched to JRemote and pasted it in. Entered my credentials and whatnot and it connected right up.
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Wow. This is really very nice.
I'm not seeing any weird sorting on this side, though I've only spent a few minutes.
Is there any way to "go fast" in Theater View (as if holding down the up/down arrow) with the Remote feature? Without that, it's not that usable.
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Is there any way to "go fast" in Theater View (as if holding down the up/down arrow) with the Remote feature? Without that, it's not that usable.
Not yet. I gave some suggestions above.
I have used it now for a while and I must say I am still very impressed how fast it is. Not only in browsing but also in reconnecting to the server. I have a little suggestion to make it look more seamless. If the app is woken up from a running session on the ipad you see the connection screen going in and out very fast. That is looks a little clumsy and not as pro as the rest of the gui experience.
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I am still getting Artists inside of my Genre group. This is new as of the last update (i think).
All other control points show Genres correctly.
Thanks!
Patrick
PS - Glynor.... are you all up and running?
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Glynor, sorry about the problems you experienced connecting. On the iPad you get the full keyboard, but of course on the iphone, you are restricted to numbers only. I will make sure this is corrected in the next version for others having the same problem.
pcstockton, are you sure this is not a configuration problem with jriver? Is it the same if you reconnect to the server?
"Go fast" feature on the trackpad will be implemented also in the next version by holding down one of the directions.
I`m guessing the next version will be ready by this week, not going quite as fast as i would like due to other projects.
Cover art browsing is mostly implemented, only a few details left. Performance seems to be pretty good on the iPad2.
The interface has also received a slight improvement, new buttons etc, to move it further away from the itunes remote look.
Again, thanks for the comments, you guys are my main source for bug reports and improvements.
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pcstockton, are you sure this is not a configuration problem with jriver? Is it the same if you reconnect to the server?
other control points show genres correctly, and it looks correct within MC. I tested it on my work PC over the weekend and had the same issue.
This is new as it worked correctly previously.
Thanks LesPaul!!!!
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Sorry to repeat on this issue but AirPlay support would be an amazing addition to JRemote.
I have a work around now using AirFoil however it is inconvenient because everytime I want to use an AirPlay enabled application I have to remote into my server and turn off MC's AirFoil connection.
I'm curious if AirPlay support requires changes by JRiver, or if JRemote could implement AirPlay without any assistance from JRiver?
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Just curious.... what do you need Airplay for in this world?
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is airplay the ability for Iusers to play on there Idevice? like gizmo does?
We've already bought one of these jriver addons for apple and only used it once. GF doesn't care about remote controlling she cares about being able to listen to music, watch vids etc on her Idevices.
Thanks for clarification.
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Just curious.... what do you need Airplay for in this world?
I have an Apple TV connected to my family room TV and an Apple Airport Express connected to my living room stereo. With my iPad I can send audio to either or both (in perfect sync), or video to my Apple TV, provided that the iPad app supports AirPlay.
AirFoil is a work around that hooks into MC on my server and sends MC's audio to either the Apple TV or Airport Express. The problem is that I cannot control the AirFoil connection with JRemote so it is inconvenient when switching to an AirPlay enabled app. I have to remote into my server using LogMeIn on my iPad to disconnect AirFoil.
After supporting AirPlay audio the next logical step for JRemote would be AirPlay video support. This would require real time video conversion to mp4. I currently use Air Video for this task and it works remarkably well. Using my iPad, I can navigate to and play on my Apple TV every video (in all formats) located on my server. The problem with this solution is that I do not get to use JRemote, nor the tags and navigation offered by MC for my video.
I do not understand the technology here. I am curious if JRiver development is required for JRemote to support AirPlay. If it is, I will stop asking for AirPlay support in JRemote because I am sure the JRiver team has other priorities.
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is airplay the ability for Iusers to play on there Idevice? like gizmo does?
We've already bought one of these jriver addons for apple and only used it once. GF doesn't care about remote controlling she cares about being able to listen to music, watch vids etc on her Idevices.
Thanks for clarification.
AirPlay lets you redirect the audio and/or video output from an iPad app to an Apple TV (video or audio) and/or Airport Express (audio only).
Example. Last night I was sitting on my couch and using my iPad navigated to a movie on my server, started playing it, and then told AirPlay to send it to my Apple TV so I could watch it on my big screen TV. Half way through the movie my daughter went to bed and I needed to be quiet so I plugged my earphones into my iPad and turned off AirPlay so I could watch the balance of my movie on the iPad screen.
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I have an Apple TV connected to my family room TV and an Apple Airport Express connected to my living room stereo. With my iPad I can send audio to either or both (in perfect sync), or video to my Apple TV, provided that the iPad app supports AirPlay.
For what it is worth, I think you can "jailbreak"/mod the Apple TV so it appears as a DLNA renderer to MC and other servers.
I do not understand the technology here. I am curious if JRiver development is required for JRemote to support AirPlay. If it is, I will stop asking for AirPlay support in JRemote because I am sure the JRiver team has other priorities.
I am guessing that yes, it will require airplay support in MC. And I am also guessing that is not going to happen. $$$$$$$$
-patrick
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awww ok Thanks RJM... neat feature.
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To support AirPlay JRemote would have to be not only a remote for MC but also a player/renderer for a stream send from MC to the iOS device.
For video there are some hurdles. To support AirPlay video like the way the AirVideo app/server combination does, MC will have to support
on the fly transcoding to mp4. As this would also be usefull for other scenarios, it might not be that far away, but to implement a good video
player on iOS is another story.
And then there are still the picture collections...
But audio might be much easier. As only some audio formats can be played on iOS devices, it would make sense to transcode all audio to
uncompressed and stream that to JRemote. MC can do that already on the fly (volume leveling and maybe other DSP functions can be used) and
JRemote would only have to support one format for playing.
I really would like to see something like that... Dreams come true: A cheap + convenient + synced multiroom system via LAN on top of MC!
How many years will it last until that will be possible using DLNA? Seeing all the problems and incompatibilities of those DLNA renderes I guess
it will never happen... With AirPlay it's not really music of the future.
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The problem is that I cannot control the AirFoil connection with JRemote so it is inconvenient when switching to an AirPlay enabled app. I have to remote into my server using LogMeIn on my iPad to disconnect AirFoil.
If AirFoil runs on a Mac, it is possible to control it remotely from an iOS device with an app (via AppleScript). Unfortunately the PC version of AirFoil does not have this functionality.
Yes, it would be nice if we just could jump for example from the YouTube app to JRemote and then to a game, all connected via AirPlay to the big screen via AppleTV. But the AirPlay connection made by AirFoil blocks the AppleTV as long as it is present. Now if JRemote would also be a mediaplayer, we could forget about AirFoil :-)
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I always recommend using hardware and software for what they are dedicated to do in great fashion, i.e. dont look for swiss-army-knife type solutions.
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To support AirPlay JRemote would have to be not only a remote for MC but also a player/renderer for a stream send from MC to the iOS device.
I really would like to see something like that... Dreams come true: A cheap + convenient + synced multiroom system via LAN on top of MC!
Love your user name :). Thanks for explaining and I agree with your dream. I don't care if it is Apple technology. Just needs to work. I have not followed DLNA devices very closely, but I guess the fact that JRiver had some trouble with their ID product suggests all is not well. I do know that my Apple TV and Express have worked flawlessly since I took them out of their boxes.
For what it is worth, I think you can "jailbreak"/mod the Apple TV so it appears as a DLNA renderer to MC and other servers.
Thanks for the tip. The fact that there are 3 iPads and 2 iTouch's and 1 iPhone in my family means AirPlay enabled apps far out number DLNA apps. Looks like I will have to learn to live with the AirFoil work around for JRiver.
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I always recommend using hardware and software for what they are dedicated to do in great fashion, i.e. dont look for swiss-army-knife type solutions.
Well, if the DLNA stuff (particularly hardware) would offer more than the lowest common denominator, AirPlay would not be that popular...
You can already use every DLNA controller on the iPad as a "bridge" to AirPlay hardware. But these can not take full advantage of the MC features,
only what is offered by the DLNA protocol. Think of ratings as a simple feature not available with DLNA. So why not ask for both? Why stay with the
technical limits of DLNA and the format limits of Apple if a combination of both can have the potential to deliver the best of both worlds?
And there are not only AppleTV and Airport Express. A growing number of AV receivers and other devices already also support AirPlay.
An app like JRemote could take that all a step further...
EDIT: Of course JRemote should not be a "full featured mediaplayer app", there are already lots of them. But I wish it will some day be a MC remote
that can also start streams on MC and play them on the iOS device. So you can watch and listen on the iOS device and/or redirect via AirPlay.
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other control points show genres correctly, and it looks correct within MC. I tested it on my work PC over the weekend and had the same issue.
SOLVED!!!!!!!!!
Sorry about that. I went into Library View settings and added "Genre" to the subcategories inside Genre. All is well.
Thanks!
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EDIT: Of course JRemote should not be a "full featured mediaplayer app", there are already lots of them. But I wish it will some day be a MC remote
that can also start streams on MC and play them on the iOS device. So you can watch and listen on the iOS device and/or redirect via AirPlay.
I think this is very much feasible. Jrmc already does conversion and in another thread it was mentioned that they are already looking into doing it like airvideo does. And jremote can access in the same way Gizmo does. And any audio/video on ios can in principle support airplay. So the basics are already there...but it will take some time to bring it all together in a neat package.
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I will certainly look at ways to stream using airplay etc. At the moment i`m not sure its possible. It may be possible to take the stream from webplay and resend it to an AirPlay device. As others have mentioned there will be issues with formats not supported by Apple. I`m looking forward to playing with this.
Playing on the device itself will be implemented for sure.
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hdplex, It will be easy to display ratings on a track list, I think that would be a great feature for those using ratings. I will add it for the next version.
I have also added a setting to turn rating display on or off, so it wont be visible if you don't need them.
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hdplex, It will be easy to display ratings on a track list, I think that would be a great feature for those using ratings. I will add it for the next version.
I have also added a setting to turn rating display on or off, so it wont be visible if you don't need them.
Thanks!
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Playing on the device itself will be implemented for sure.
SWEET! Would this include playback off of the local network? If I could ditch PlugPlayer I would be a happy man.
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I have also added a setting to turn rating display on or off, so it wont be visible if you don't need them.
Excellent idea. I dont use Ratings.
You are the besticles!
Patrick
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Been using this a couple weeks now, and I truly suspect it has somethign to do with the better sales MC is seeing. Along with some other happenings out in the audiophile world. ;)
I have some comments/suggestions:
(1) When I select an album to play, I occasionally decide I don't want to hear a track or two. Would it be possible to enhance the now playing "playlist" view to allow deletions from the now playing list? Push and hold, delete? Something like that?
(2) Please add an indication of what version is loaded and running. Perhaps on the settings screen? Does not really matter where, so long as it can be found. :)
(3) The tap screen works pretty well, though the instructions on it are somewhat cryptic to old farts like me. How, for example, do I control FF or RW on this screen? I got swipe to change selections, tap to pause or resume. :)
(4) I use an old 3GS as a remote control, and it is somewhat slow to engage sometimes. Would it be possible to have a setting in the app that keeps it alive and ready for instant usage, even at the expense of battery like? Perhaps dimming the screen and just being quiet, but still alive and ready to response to a tap? :)
Really really good job.
-Paul
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Great app.
only issues so far are;
1- it gets stuck on 'loading' when I try to access audio>files.- ive never managed to get in.
2- after leaving the phone for a couple of minutes, it locks and takes several attempts to re-connect to server once unlocked, a little frustrating when your trying to turn it down or pause it because the doorbell rings!
Otherwise, its a real gem of a program!
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(1) When I select an album to play, I occasionally decide I don't want to hear a track or two. Would it be possible to enhance the now playing "playlist" view to allow deletions from the now playing list? Push and hold, delete? Something like that?
An iOS style "swipe to delete" would be great here.
(3) The tap screen works pretty well, though the instructions on it are somewhat cryptic to old farts like me. How, for example, do I control FF or RW on this screen? I got swipe to change selections, tap to pause or resume. :)
Simply slide the "Progress Indicator" dot to where you like. Single click the Playing Now screen to access.
(4) I use an old 3GS as a remote control, and it is somewhat slow to engage sometimes. Would it be possible to have a setting in the app that keeps it alive and ready for instant usage, even at the expense of battery like? Perhaps dimming the screen and just being quiet, but still alive and ready to response to a tap? :)
I have only used on iPhone4 and iPad1. But with every other app I have tried on my old 3G, things are slow.
If you dont leave the app it should always be ready for you. And if you leave it I think it should still run in the background on the 3GS.
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The appstore shows v1.05 as being available, but my (non functional) version is not showing an update. Presumably I could get the fix by spending another £7!
Not terribly impressed - broken program that won't update to an apparently fixed version.
I've just got round to deleting the non-functional app and re-downloading it. When I try to move it from the Mac to the ipod it says "The app "JRemote" was not installed on the iPod because it requires a newer version of iPod software."
Well, that explains why it didn't automatically update, but it doesn't reflect well on either Apple and the app store or the software writer.
My Ios is up to date, v4.2.1 - the latest available version for my ipod. Unfortunately the app store JRemote page now says that it needs v4.3 or higher. That has changed since my first (non functional) download.
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Current iOS version is 5.0.1 - at 4.2.x you are a wee bit out of date. ::)
-Paul
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I will certainly look at ways to stream using airplay etc. At the moment i`m not sure its possible. It may be possible to take the stream from webplay and resend it to an AirPlay device. As others have mentioned there will be issues with formats not supported by Apple. I`m looking forward to playing with this.
Playing on the device itself will be implemented for sure.
I'm so excited I could... I don't know, fall down or something. Thank you so very much for doing this. I really hope you do well with this app. I'm just waiting for the next version and then I'm going to give you a nice review on iTunes.
Yes, I am all up and running with it now that we figured out the copy/paste workaround.
One thing I did want to ask... Are you planning to implement Zones support? I really need this for many of my possible uses. For one thing, it would allow me to more easily control my HTPC. My server machine runs the Library Server. When my HTPC connects to it (as it always does), the HTPC shows up as a Zone on the Server. So, with Zones support, I could use one server address to control any machine that connects to my "main" home MC server. As it is, I have to run the Library Server on my HTPC, even though it is also connected to a Library Server, to be able to control it (and I have two choices in my app, and have to know to switch between them).
Likewise... At the office a bunch of our TVs are DLNA devices on the network and show up as Zones on the MC server that runs our Display Wall in the Lobby. With Zones support, I could walk around anywhere at the Lab with my iPhone or iPad, and play any video or audio file I have in that Library to any TV, connected to this one single server address, and "Play To" whatever TV I happen to be standing in front of, via a simple and easy-to-use interface.
That would be amazing.
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With Zones support, I could walk around anywhere at the Lab with my iPhone or iPad, and play any video or audio file I have in that Library to any TV, connected to this one single server address, and "Play To" whatever TV I happen to be standing in front of, via a simple and easy-to-use interface.
That would be amazing.
I am not sure if this is what you want. But you can switch zones that show up on the connected server in now playing by clicking on that two squares icon next to the controls.
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Device discussion was split to a new thread.
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I am not sure if this is what you want. But you can switch zones that show up on the connected server in now playing by clicking on that two squares icon next to the controls.
Aha! That is exactly what I wanted.
I looked and looked and looked for the Zones support, but never found that. Of course, I never bothered to even look under Playing Now at all, because I didn't care about managing the Playing Now list.
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Currently JRemote will play the whole album when user tap a track which in turn clear the now playing list.
I know I can activate the POP window by press and hold but would it be possible to make the default action for tap configurable in future release?
Thanks!
;D
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I am having trouble with Video. With obvious different tags and whatnot, my Video tab in JRemote is identical to my music.
Do I need to set up something on MC's end?
Thanks!
Patrick
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I purchased JRemote. It looks like a very nice application.
It would be nice to use JRemote as either a remote or to play music on the iPad. Is this possible or is JRemote limited to remote control device?
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I'm experimenting a problem using JRiver in this config:
- "Server 1" used as library server
- "PC 2" connect directly to the hi-fi sytem using "Server 1" as library server
Both of them are in the last stable version (17.0.068)...
I connect JRemote to PC 2 and I'm able to navigate the whole library and use the app without any problem, except in playing now where the screen doesn't show the cover art (all the other infos are displayed correctly...)
Since I've introduced the new HW configuration and the JRiver SW upgrade at the same time I don't know if it's a problem of the JRiver upgrade or a JRemote bug... Any help?
Thanks,
Marco
(Sorry for my not so good english!)
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LesPaul,
Everything working wonderfully on my end. Great apps! The best i have seen by far.
Over about 6 weeks I have used either the iPhone or iPad app for well over 200 hours of solid listening. I use it with Theater view about half the time. The other is headless.
I cant find any glitches or bugs of note with one exception:
- Video tab shows my music. Not video. Could we get video "media subtype" as the initial choices under video? Like Genre? I can control Video replay with JRemote if I start it from within MC.
I must say this is not a big deal to me. I can easily grab the mouse to start up a video. And i am still not convinced MC is for me regarding video. Some vids will only play glitch-free in VLC. Cant easily play ISOs etc.
If I may mention the few features I find myself wishing for:
- Bio in some fashion (Wiki or LastFM)
- On iPad I would LOVE "Year" and "Genre" tags in addition to the existing bit-rate info.
- Could the iPhone's "iPod/Music controls" in the lock screen be adapted to JRemote? Meaning, the volume and track control. PlugPlayer can hijack these, i thought you might be able to as well.
- Play to iOS device when OFF the home network. Please help me delete the PlugPlayer app.
Thanks again for the best control app out there. I would happily pay for it all over again.
Cheers!
Patrick
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... there is currently a bug in the iPhone version that causes the current rating not to update, so that can make it look like all subsequent tracks have the same rating.
Will be fixed in next version.
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What is the ETA for the next version? I'm looking forward to being able to rate tracks from my iPhone. Thanks!
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Hi guys,
the new version is currently for review at apple, should be out very shortly.
I have updated the images at jremote.net to reflect some of the recent changes.
The biggest new feature is gallery view on the iPad version.
The Last.FM integration was 99% done, but i ran into a small problem, so decided to drop it from this release, sorry.
Smaller additions include new graphics on now playing screen, ratings in track view, press and hold for continuous navigation in remote view.
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pstockton, thanks for the kind works.
Regarding video tab showing music, are you sure this is not a setup mistake under custom views?
- LastFm will be in the next version, should have been in this one.
- Will add year and genre tags, nice suggestion.
- Its possible to use volume and track controls, but its considered a hack and is not recommended to do.
People have had their app rejected because of this.
- Streaming to device will be one of the next features i add. Streaming through the mobile network will be part of that.
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...Streaming to device will be one of the next features i add. Streaming through the mobile network will be part of that.
This is the top feature I'm looking forward to. Thanks...
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" Streaming to device will be one of the next features i add. Streaming through the mobile network will be part of that"
I also strongly vote for this feature.
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Hi,
Great app, I use it a lot.
Is it right that I cannot add an existing playlist (made with PC) to 'playing now'?
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Les, anyway you can add a feature to show the TAG comment field text? Maybe when an album title or song is tapped and held for an extended time?
I love the program so far - it's the only one of many that I use every day.
Tony
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Mantis:
I will try to add some extended tag information views to the next release. Everyone has different preferences for tags, so a good feature may be to show every available tag in a seperate view.
behind:
I`m not sure i get your question. You can add to "playing now" by pressing down on a track row for half a second or so.
BTW, looks like the new version is available the app store now.
Looking forward to some feedback on the thumbnail browsing and how it can be improved.
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Mantis:
I will try to add some extended tag information views to the next release. Everyone has different preferences for tags, so a good feature may be to show every available tag in a seperate view.
That could get ugly and very cluttered. Maybe you could do something similar that jriver does in options > theater view > customize file info panel.
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I will try to add some extended tag information views to the next release. Everyone has different preferences for tags, so a good feature may be to show every available tag in a seperate view.
Yes, separate view please. Although I would like "Year" up in the header (at least on iPad).
For the separate view perhaps you could only show those tags that actually have values entered. There are so many available it would be overwhelming.
Thanks for the update!!! Downloading now.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Yes, it would be a seperate view that slides in, available from "track view" and "Now Playing" view.
I`m currently thinking of making this a "mode", so that when you are in metadata mode, selecting a track will not play the track, but rather update the info in the metadata view.
On the iPhone this view would fill the whole screen, so no special "mode" is needed.
Of course, only tags with information would be shown.
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I`m currently thinking of making this a "mode", so that when you are in metadata mode, selecting a track will not play the track, but rather update the info in the metadata view.
The update is great. Cover browsing is smooth. I like it!
For the metadata mode, I have a suggestion for iPad version.
Under the album or track view in imagelist mode, when user press a certain icon or area for a defined period of time.
The corresponding album or track will expand to show the metadata.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/grid.jpg)
Press and expand
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/grid1.jpg)
Under Playing now UI, when user swipe above the cover art. The track metadata will slide in and replace the cover art.
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/pn.jpg)
Swipe above cover art
(http://www.hd-plex.com/images/jremote/pn1.PNG)
If one window is not enough, maybe swipe right could bring up the artist bio from lastFM including the artist picture, swipe left would bring up the track metadata details instead.
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Looking forward to some feedback on the thumbnail browsing and how it can be improved.
One small request. When accidentally touch a track,, current playlist will be cleared and the corresponding album will be added.
Could the default function be configurable when user touch a track?
I would configure the touch to "Add this track to the playlist" function.
Thanks a lot for this great software. It made me use JRiver Center a lot more. ;D
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VERY nice. great update. its getting all sexy.
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Regarding the tag discussions above, I would like to implore that JRemote be kept as simple and streamlined as possible. "Tagging Modes" sounds confusing. The auto expand in album list via "press and hold" is to similar to press for playback options.
I would suggest that the tag "pane" should be accessible via a button similar to, or adjacent to, the "Zones" button. Also I think it should only be in "Playing Now" screen, but that is just me.
OR, the tags could be available on the forthcoming Bio page. It would be nice to combine tags and bio into one area/screen/button.
Thanks again for the great update. The buttons look great, the jump letters are slick and the new list views are money.
Well done!
Patrick
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One small request. When accidentally touch a track,, current playlist will be cleared and the corresponding album will be added.
Could the default function be configurable when user touch a track?
I would configure the touch to "Add this track to the playlist" function.
I am on the fence about this. I do like the current arrangement, and I dont think I want the "Playback Options" to pop up every time I select a track. MyRiver does this if memory serves.
Perhaps you could implement a "Tap to Play" option in settings as with PlugPlayer. When "On" it would work as it does currently, and as Remote does. When "Off" a single tap would bring up the "Playback Options" as it does now with the slight press and hold.
If a "Tap To Play" setting is not possible, I would strongly vote to keep the current arrangement.
My 2 cents,
Patrick
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I am on the fence about this. I do like the current arrangement, and I dont think I want the "Playback Options" to pop up every time I select a track.
I also don't want "Playback Options" popup every time.
The default function for Tap will be configurable under "Settings".
You still need to press and hold for "Playback options" window to POP.
Therefore, if you leave the tap to function as "Clear Playing Now playlist, Add the current album to the empty playlist, and start from the tapped track", nothing is changed for you.
Sorry for not explaining this clearly.
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Hello LesPaul and everyone!
I've purchased the app and first impression is great except two issues:
I can't get track time in any view (all tracks displayed as 0:00) although I can see time while playing a track!
Seems that custom views (configure DNLA server) are not accessible by the app.
Currently using MC 17 with the latest update. Am I missing something? Is it an app bug or I have a wrong configuration?
Finally if you don't mind I would like to make a suggestion. Reordering tracks in the current playlist would be great along with a clear playlist option (I'm aware that already works in other views). How about bit rate track info also?
Keep on the good work :)
Cheers
vashar
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How is JRemote handling adding tracks to playlists?
Is there a way to take a track and add it to a specific playlist?
Right now when I try it it seems to dump things into newly created "Recent Playing Now's" list. How is this helpful?
I'd really like my wife to be able to use JRemote on an iPad to manage her own playlists. Pick and choose which tracks get added or deleted, and create/delete playlists on the fly.
My setup is MC17.0.85 using an iPad 2 running 5.01 and whatever jremote comes off the appstore. I have two zones configured in MC17, one for each audio source connected to a Russound CAV66 setup.
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How is JRemote handling adding tracks to playlists?
Press and hold (at any level), then select "add" or "playnext" or whatever you want.
I dont think there is playlist editing yet.
-Patrick
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I don't want to have a track play next, and right now add does something strange with multiple new "Recent Playing Now's" lists. That's just bizarre. I want to be able to put a track into a specific playlist. I'd love to have just the add part as a start, to an existing list. Being able to edit, delete, rename, etc are lower priorities. Eventually, yes, it would be nice to have full playlist editing.
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Hi, just wanted to add my voice to the rising chorus...Thankyou!
I bought this app. a few weeks ago and it's the best thing since sliced bread.
I would seriously recommend you approach the JRiver crew and suggest they partner with you on this and make it THE official JRiver iPad offering replacing Gizmo (which is a joke in comparison).
My one hope is that it one day also appears on the android.
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is there a way to stop instead of pause?
I'm using a zone for cd and for video but currently using the same audio device since it has exclusive access the audio/video needs to be fully stopped to work in the other zone
also not sure why. I recently could not use the app until I deleted the server entry and re-entered the data. not sure if this is related to all the recent jriver updates or something else
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really nice app. big thx !
Only one wish... is it possible to move "loading images" to the settings (cause it blocks user input while loading) and store a global default list style?
btw. it seems, that preloading is not working (preload done several times, but when scrolling in Artist view I always see the load request).
Environment:
JR 17
JRemote 1.0.5
iOS 5.0.1 (iPod touch)
Thanks again,
Markus
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Is there any future plans to incorporate the tv guide and ability to change channels from the guide and schedule recordings etc.
I think this along with AirPlay would be awesome to an already great app
Keep up the good work
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Is there any future plans to incorporate the tv guide and ability to change channels from the guide and schedule recordings etc.
I think this along with AirPlay would be awesome to an already great app
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Why is Airplay needed on a Remote for J River? Can J River play to Airplay enable devices currently? If it can, I am guessing your Airplay devices would show up as a Zone and is therefore already supported.
Regarding the TV questions. I would rather not see this developed for the app. It seems like it is complicated enough to bust out the mouse and keyboard for this activity. The same would go for smartlist creation or MC Settings.
For future features there are only a few I would really like to see and would find indispensable and worthwhile.
In order of importance:
- Stream to the device OFF network (i REALLY want to ditch the unstable PlugPlayer)
- Stream to the device ON network (i assume this would come prior to the above but is less important to me)
- Artist Bio from LastFM or Wiki
- Lyrics (who know from where or how???)
Otherwise I would love this app to stay as simple and clean as possible. Every time something like this gets more and more complicated, it introduces more and more problems.
Just my 2 cents,
Patrick
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I agree with pcstockton. JRemote needs to stay as simple as possible.
I am not looking for a full fledged universal remote IMHO.
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Somehow media center and simple seems odd when mentioned in the same sentence. It already very, very complicated. Adding airplay output wouldn't really change that. So that's not really a viable argument.
Id like to have an integrated way to use a airplay device as a zone for audio playback. Video output to an apple TV or mac running mtn lion might be interestig but i could live without it.
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I use daily JRemote and my votes are the following:
- Stream media to my device along with the use of AirPlay
- Ability to create playlists
- Search into entire library (within music, movie or photo media)
- Integration with LastFM and IMDB
The application is extremely good and it's very close to be an excellent all-purpose media player
Keep up the good work!
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Thanks for making this app! Nice!
A few notes after having used the app on an iPad for only a short period of time.
a) The app seems to freeze up with long album lists while loading images. Sometimes it even crashes in this situation.
b) It should be possible to cancel a preload images process to be able to navigate.
c) In the list and small image list views the set sort order is not respected, i.e. a view set to sort albums by date imported is sorted by album name in those views, but sorted correctly in thumbnails view.
d) In the "header" when showing the tracks for only one album the MC field [Album artist (auto)] should always be used (even if the file list is filtered by a "track" artist). For an album with an [album artist] manually set, i.e. [Album artist (auto)] = that album artist, "Various" is shown if there is a guest artist on one track. - The [Date], or [Year], field should also be shown in the header. Could the bitrate also be shown?
e) In file lists the [Artist] should also be shown for each track, at least if it differs from [album artist (auto)]. In the case of a list of artists the items should be separated nicely (item1, item2, item3 & item4).
f) It there is just one item on a level, that level is skipped and the subsequent level is shown directly. Fine. But the top bar still shows the info for the (first) skipped level, not the level you are actually on. I think the top bar should always show info the accurate level. Otherwise I miss the info I have added for that level in an expression (such as album rating and year info for albums).
g) Album cover art that is not square is displayed/cropped in a strange way in the grid, i.e. for a large box set where the height is much larger than the width the upper and lower parts of the cover are just cropped. I think it is the same for artist images, but I am not sure since they are retrieved automatically.
It would be nice if the images in the grid could scale if you "pinch" or do the opposite of that.
Have you seen iPeng, an app to control Logitech Squeezeboxes (you can run it without Squeezeboxes, the playback devices; you just need the free Logitech Media Server)? It has a very nice interface and is now integrated with a browser to look up bios, album reviews and lyrics within the app. The author is really friendly and helpful.
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So, can I get an answer about how JRemote handles adding a track to a playlist? How does it decide what playlist to use as the destination? Right now it appears to just make up a new one each time (in Recent Now Playings part of the tree). Can it do something like just add the track to the currently active list? Or is there no UI available that exposes this location for you?
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Does anyone have any comment on how video performs when controlled by JRemote? For example does pause/play initiated by JRemote cause any sync issues in the audio and video? Nor does accessing right click controls cause any video lag?
Would be great to see the option of running this app in an iPad based universal remote platform.
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Hi Guys, thanks for the comments.
Bill, there is currently no way to add to an existing playlist. You can only change the "Playing now" list.
At this time I am not sure this is even possible.
I will go over your questions and recommendations later today, just a few comments:
Airplay will most likely be possible if i can get the JRiver streams to run inside iOS and not just in a webbrowser.
I have not had the time to investigate this yet, but this will be the only priority for me after the next release.
The next release, that should be available quite soon, will be a more polished version than the last. Fixed a few bugs and made quite a few adjustments.
One issue that i did not notice until recently, and nobody else have commented on, is that much of the cover art in gallery mode appear blurred. This is fixed in the next version.
It will also feature a pretty cool metadata view that slides in when activated and displays all tags for the selected file, as well as artist biography from Last.FM.
If lyrics are available in the metdata, it will be displayed in its own tab inside the metadata view.
Regarding lyrics, I have tried really hard to find a decent online service provider for automatic download of lyrics.
The problem is that lyrics are copyrighted, so there is a lot of money involved. The best service i found wanted $20K if i wanted to use them.
Other lyric service are often illegal, in that they don`t pay fees to the song writes.
The best option as of now is to add lyrics manually to the track metatags.
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Lespaul, I just wanted to reiterate the thanks from everyone else above. JRemote is so very, very sweet. Extremely well done.
I can't wait for it to be able to stream music (and maybe video one day) to my phone/iPad. Who needs iTunes Match, right?
One last little thing that bugs me... I can't get to my Images schemes in JRemote, since it uses the bottom buttons to access Audio/Video and doesn't show the "root" of the MCWS views. Are you planning to change this? I'd really like to see those bottom buttons be configurable, and for the default view when you first open it to be the MCWS root, including all possible views. In addition to Audio, Images, and Video, I have a custom-defined "All Media" tree hierarchy defined from the root, and a small set of "Data" views (mostly for eBooks).
I can't get to any of those with JRemote as it is now.
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JRemote is so very, very sweet. Extremely well done.
Me too! +1,000,000,000
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Vagskal, thanks for the comments, I will comment on each of your points:
a) The app seems to freeze up with long album lists while loading images. Sometimes it even crashes in this situation.
-I will look at this issue before the next release, may be a memory issue. The app may run out of memory while downloading.
It has been reported by others too.
b) It should be possible to cancel a preload images process to be able to navigate.
-I know. Will add this, as well as a progress bar.
c) In the list and small image list views the set sort order is not respected, i.e. a view set to sort albums by date imported is sorted by album name in those views, but sorted correctly in thumbnails view.
-The reason is that I reorder the results in order to present it as a sectioned and indexed list.
Could add an option to present list as unordered, but you would loose the section headers and alphabet navigation on right side.
d) In the "header" when showing the tracks for only one album the MC field [Album artist (auto)] should always be used (even if the file list is filtered by a "track" artist). For an album with an [album artist] manually set, i.e. [Album artist (auto)] = that album artist, "Various" is shown if there is a guest artist on one track. - The [Date], or [Year], field should also be shown in the header. Could the bitrate also be shown?
- Fixed in next release
e) In file lists the [Artist] should also be shown for each track, at least if it differs from [album artist (auto)]. In the case of a list of artists the items should be separated nicely (item1, item2, item3 & item4).
- Fixed in next release, always showing artist even on single albums
f) It there is just one item on a level, that level is skipped and the subsequent level is shown directly. Fine. But the top bar still shows the info for the (first) skipped level, not the level you are actually on. I think the top bar should always show info the accurate level. Otherwise I miss the info I have added for that level in an expression (such as album rating and year info for albums).
- Its possible to display every sublevel even if it has only one item. That was actually how it was in the first version.
I can add this back in as an option.
g) Album cover art that is not square is displayed/cropped in a strange way in the grid, i.e. for a large box set where the height is much larger than the width the upper and lower parts of the cover are just cropped. I think it is the same for artist images, but I am not sure since they are retrieved automatically.
- Images returned from JRiver may vary in size.
I am currently not doing any resizing on the device, but may change this if performace is not affected.
It would be nice if the images in the grid could scale if you "pinch" or do the opposite of that.
- Thats a pretty cool idea actually:)
Have you seen iPeng, an app to control Logitech Squeezeboxes (you can run it without Squeezeboxes, the playback devices; you just need the free Logitech Media Server)? It has a very nice interface and is now integrated with a browser to look up bios, album reviews and lyrics within the app. The author is really friendly and helpful.
- I used iPeng quite a lot when i had a SB touch, it`s a really great remote.
I personally prefer a cleaner interface. iPeng use a lot of screen space for play controls and navigation, quite similar to the iTunes ipad remote.
When i first started developing JRemote for the ipad, I wanted to use a similar layout, but I`m not so sure anymore.
I quite like to use the whole screen for the actual browsing.
Anyway, iPeng is a really good source for inspiration.
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Glynor, I want to delay showing the "Image" button until I have implemented a nice image gallery viewer.
I will implement a way to add custom navigation buttons, but not for the next release I`m afraid.
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Glynor, I want to delay showing the "Image" button until I have implemented a nice image gallery viewer.
I will implement a way to add custom navigation buttons, but not for the next release I`m afraid.
That would be great!
One request/suggestion. My "photo" albums are mixed image and video files. I would appreciate it if the gallery viewer would support both.
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recently after a lot of updates of JRiver and JRemote it seems that i need to delete and re-enter my server data to be able to log in. no paswords or keys were changed.
not sure if its related to jriver or jremote updates.
Is this normal?
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Glynor, I want to delay showing the "Image" button until I have implemented a nice image gallery viewer.
I will implement a way to add custom navigation buttons, but not for the next release I`m afraid.
No rush.
I don't use those views anywhere near as much, but it would be occasionally handy. I actually had a situation where I needed it the day before I posted that, and it inspired me to post.
Otherwise... I can't say it enough. Really nice job. I really like the simple, elegant design you've gone with. Best $10 I've spent in a long time.
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Thanks for the reply!
The reason is that I reorder the results in order to present it as a sectioned and indexed list.
Could add an option to present list as unordered, but you would loose the section headers and alphabet navigation on right side.
I would prefer the items always ordered as set in the view in MC. It would however be cool if a tap on the list button could toggle between the two sort orders.
- Its possible to display every sublevel even if it has only one item. That was actually how it was in the first version.
I can add this back in as an option.
I have no issue at all with the skipped level(s). It is just that I miss the correct text (with custom info I have set in MC) in the top bar if a level is skipped.
Anyway, iPeng is a really good source for inspiration.
The iPeng for iPad now playing screens are really nice. The cover art is displayed really large with the possibility to get an overlay with player controls and song/album info. And you can just swipe to see the playlist and additional info (lyrics as it is now, but I guess it could be album review or artist bio instead).
Keep up the good work!
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c) In the list and small image list views the set sort order is not respected, i.e. a view set to sort albums by date imported is sorted by album name in those views, but sorted correctly in thumbnails view.
-The reason is that I reorder the results in order to present it as a sectioned and indexed list.
Could add an option to present list as unordered, but you would loose the section headers and alphabet navigation on right side.
About the section headers and a-z navigation bar:
a) If there are under A and T only items beginning with "a " and "the " respectively, then there should be no A and T section headers (and the items sorted under the next letter). If I have an album view grouped by 1, I.e. grouped by first letter, and drill into G I get 3 section headers, two small sections for A and T and one gigantic section for G that is impossible to navigate within using the right hand side navigation bar.
EDIT: Oh, and if there is an All item it gets sorted alone under A.
b) Could É be sorted under E?
c) When in an All item at file level, would it be possible in list views to have section headers representing the level above, I.e. choose All albums and have a section header for each album with its files beneath?
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g) Album cover art that is not square is displayed/cropped in a strange way in the grid, i.e. for a large box set where the height is much larger than the width the upper and lower parts of the cover are just cropped. I think it is the same for artist images, but I am not sure since they are retrieved automatically.
- Images returned from JRiver may vary in size.
I am currently not doing any resizing on the device, but may change this if performace is not affected.
I attach a couple of screenshots to illustrate. Look at the cover art for the bottom left album.
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c) When in an All item at file level, would it be possible in list views to have section headers representing the level above, I.e. choose All albums and have a section header for each album with its files beneath?
Yes, please implement this; at the moment it's hard to see where the next album starts in the list.
Thanks!
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Another +1 for this app.
I e-mail the address from the jremote site so this may be a duplicate:
The issue is adding songs to a live playlist, or the "Playing now list".
When I tap a song, it wipes the existing playlist and plays what I tapped on.
If I go into the settings on the iphone, and turn OFF "NowPlaying on Select".
It still wipes the playlist but now adds the entire album, instead of the single song that was tapped.
I realize you can hold down on your selection to be prompted on a choice (Play now, Play next, Add to list etc...)
So the question is, can the default behavior be changed so a tap "Adds to" the Playing now vs wiping it out, or a tap brings up the options to chose?
The problem is most users have far to many accidental taps therefore constantly wiping out Playing Now list.
Thank you.
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In the header in file list views the track count is off by one, I.e. the number of tracks info in the header shows one song less than what is actually in the file list.
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After playing with it today more... I have to say I agree with the sorting stuff discussed above. The custom sorting makes all my content that starts with "The" and "A" (like The Daily Show or The Arcade Fire) show up in the wrong place in my lists. MC handles articles correctly, and WebGizmo shows them sorted properly.
That's a worse failure than not having the jump lists on the side by a long shot.
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would it be possible to have a "save as favorite" button so songs could be added to a list and played back whenever? This is a feature of the PSAudio Elyric app.
thanks
Tony
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Another +1 for this app.
I e-mail the address from the jremote site so this may be a duplicate:
The issue is adding songs to a live playlist, or the "Playing now list".
When I tap a song, it wipes the existing playlist and plays what I tapped on.
If I go into the settings on the iphone, and turn OFF "NowPlaying on Select".
It still wipes the playlist but now adds the entire album, instead of the single song that was tapped.
I realize you can hold down on your selection to be prompted on a choice (Play now, Play next, Add to list etc...)
So the question is, can the default behavior be changed so a tap "Adds to" the Playing now vs wiping it out, or a tap brings up the options to chose?
The problem is most users have far to many accidental taps therefore constantly wiping out Playing Now list.
Thank you.
I have been requesting this since the beginning. An accidental tap will wipe the Playing now list clean.
The default action has to be configurable in the Settings.
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recently after a lot of updates of JRiver and JRemote it seems that i need to delete and re-enter my server data to be able to log in. no paswords or keys were changed.
not sure if its related to jriver or jremote updates.
Is this normal?
This happened to me as well after returning from a 1 week vacation. No updates were made.
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When you are playing a video, the FF/RW buttons should act like the left/right arrows in MC (30 second skip ahead, etc) instead of as track forward/back. I almost never have a reason to use Track Forward/Back while watching a TV Show or Movie or whatever, but for stuff with commercials, I can't live without the skip ahead/back function. Getting back to the "Remote" function of JRemote and swiping doesn't cut it.
I think the best implementation would be to keep the UI as-is, though. Five play controls is too much on the iPhone and makes the touch-targets too small in every app I've tried that has them (though on the iPad you have plenty of real-estate, of course). Instead, I'd change it so that, when playing Video back, tapping the FF/RW buttons in Playing Now acts as the skip ahead/back command, while tap-and-holding for a second does Next/Prev Track. On the other hand, while playing Audio back, I'd do the reverse (tapping does Next/Previous Track and tap-and-hold does FF/RW), because those actions would be more common for listening to Music.
That seems like the most functional and elegant solution to the problem.
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Also, I'd really, really, really like a quicker way to switch between Servers. When I switch JRemote between my Server machine and my HTPC, if I happen to be buried deep down in a category, it takes a whole bunch of taps to "get back" to be able to select a different server (buried in settings).
I like how it auto-reconnects and remembers where you last-were. Don't change that! But some way to quickly switch to a different server from any page would be much appreciated (maybe a small always-persistent Settings button somewhere up top?)...
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if I happen to be buried deep down in a category, it takes a whole bunch of taps to "get back" to be able to select a different server (buried in settings).
If you tap on one task bar button you are taken directly to the home screen where the settings button is.
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I just installed the new iOS update and after that JRemote just crashes when I try to enter any category. This is on the 1 generation iPad.
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Hi guys, to my horror the latest iOS 5.1 update will indeed crash JRemote.
I have submitted the latest version for review at apple. Seemed like all it needed was a recompile
with the latest SDK. I still have no idea what the problem was.
I have emailed Apple to request the app be approved ASAP, hopefully thy will approve it within 24 hours.
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Since I had to release the latest update before i intended, I did not have time to implement all the features you have requested.
Because of this I will release a smaller update soon.
This next small update will include optional sorting, and fix other generic sorting issues.
Also, I will add default tap behavior to settings.
What did make it in this version:
Added:
- Metadata view showing all tags, Artist bio from Last FM and lyrics if available.
- Progressbar and stop button when preloading images
Changed:
- "Album Artist" tag used instead of "Artist" when available.
- Always show artist name in track views.
- Enhanced "dark" theme
- Stop button on iPad version
Fixed:
- Crashes in iOS 5.1
- A couple of issues that could cause a crash
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I too have the iOS5.1 crashing problem. Thanks for attempting to get the fix out so quickly.
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Thanks for the quick reaction and the useful enhancements you have made and those you intend to make!
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Hi,
Maybe this has been requested in the past, but I love the view in which the thumbnails of the artists and albums are in a column on the left of the screen and the artist or album listings are shown in text filling the rest of the screen.
If this great app could allow the user to default to this view, it would be better than constantly refreshing the screen to get it to display the music in the format I prefer.
Thanks for making it easier for me to switch back to Windows and MC (was using Mac before).
Joel
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Thanks for the quick reaction and the useful enhancements you have made and those you intend to make!
+1
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The new update is great. Love how the metadata feature is implemented on the last level of browsing. Very useful to me while selecting movies. Thanks, great work!
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Thanks for the quick fix and the enhancements!
Some quick observations:
1. I miss the info in the top bar on file list level. I have the category customized with text I would like to be able to see together with the file list.
2. I would like to be able to see also custom fields (not calculated fields) in the metadata section. If at all possible a way of looking at large value custom fields (I have my album review tag in mind) would be very useful. Why is the stock [Comment] field not displayed?
3. When the album name is displayed in the file list I think you should add the year info as well, [Album] ([Year]).
4. Would it be possible to display multiple artists like this Artist1, Artist2 & Artist3 instead of Artist1; Artist2; Artist3?
5. Would it be possible to display also track # in the file list when small thumbnails view is selected?
6. In the header for the file list I think you should use [Date] instead of [Year], i.e. 2010-08-12 if available instead of just 2010.
7. No artist bio is found for multiple artists on one track. Would it be possible to always retrieve artist bio for the primary artist (the first artist in a list of artists)? Or at least put & between the artists when searching lastFM?
8. I think the metadata window should just go away if the user changes to thumbnail display of the file list.
9. The large cover art in the now playing screen should be the cover art for the playing track not the cover art for the album, i.e. the cover art that is shown when viewing metadata for the track. Why is the year/date info not displayed in the header above the playlist? Would it be possible to have the option to display thumbnails in the playlist?
Thanks for a great app!
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Great update LesPaul. Simply awesome.
Thanks for getting that out so quickly. Your support is unparalleled.
One little request.... Just for me, others may like it as it stands. Could the default, when you into the metadata/bio screen, be the Bio? Maybe have that an option in settings?
Thanks again.
-patrick
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I bought jremote as well and like the look very much. I have just one issue:
The volume slider goes always back to zero / the very left.
So, you cant see how much volume is set, you can move the slider and set the volume, that works, but once the new volume is set and you dont touch it anymore, it goes back to the left. Fortunately the volume from the speaker stays aa set, but when you want to chabge volume you have to guess to where you need to slide to.
This is the case with my ipad (4.3.x) as well as with my iphone with 5.1. I am using a Juli@ card with Asio, so I need to use the internal volume setting of MC, no other Mixer would work.
other remote software do not have that issue.
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Hi,
When do expect to add WebPlay(streaming to device) feature to the app?
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Here's my wish list before I can purchase/use this:
The ability to see and change ratings from the playing now screen. Also need to see the ratings next to song titles while browsing within albums.
Looking forward!
The ability to see and change the ratings from the playing now screen is working great! Any chance for adding the ability see ratings while browsing? I'm gussing maybe it's there on the iPad version but I'm hoping to see this on the iPhone version. Maybe something like what's in the "before and after" shot below? I wouldn't expect to change any ratings from this screen (it'd be cool though), but seeing ratings from this screen sure would make picking what to play on the fly much easier.
Either way, thanks for this great app.
(http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2dd33b3127cceffcca4231ef600000030O08EZtmbFuzZA9vPhw/cC/f%3D0/ps%3D50/r%3D0/rx%3D720/ry%3D480/)
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This next small update will include optional sorting, and fix other generic sorting issues.
Also, I will add default tap behavior to settings.
Thank you so much！ You are the best ;D
I really love the way you integrated metadata and bio view into the UI.
Good job!
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No offense wombat, but there is already limited space there. I wouldn't like it to get any smaller and more cluttered.
Just my 2 cents.
Patrick
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No offense wombat, but there is already limited space there. I wouldn't like it to get any smaller and more cluttered.
Just my 2 cents.
Patrick
Actually, if you look at the example above, nothing is smaller. Yes there is more information shown, and the functionality is increased. Maybe make it an option to show ratings here so that people that don't use them don't have to see them.
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Actually, if you look at the example above, nothing is smaller. Yes there is more information shown, and the functionality is increased. Maybe make it an option to show ratings here so that people that don't use them don't have to see them.
In your examples but especially with classical music in a lot of cases there are long artist and album names which really dont need additional clutter.
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Yes there is more information shown, and the functionality is increased.
On a small, touchscreen device especially, form = function. They are not separate things.
More is not better. I have to agree with pcstockton and )p(. The main thing I like about JRemote is that it is not excessively cluttered. Simple, clean, elegant design FTW.
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Thanks for the comments guys. It`s really helpful for me.
Joelha:
I love the view in which the thumbnails of the artists and albums are in a column on the left of the screen and the artist or album listings are shown in text filling the rest of the screen.
I assume you are talking about the way the iTunes remote is showing multiple albums. I intend to make a solution like this for the track view.
vagskal:
I miss the info in the top bar on file list level. I have the category customized with text I would like to be able to see together with the file list.
Will be back in the next version
I would like to be able to see also custom fields (not calculated fields) in the metadata section. If at all possible a way of looking at large value custom fields (I have my album review tag in mind) would be very useful. Why is the stock [Comment] field not displayed?
All fields will be displayed in the next update. It`s already possible to see large text fields, the column will strech in height to adjust itself to the content.
When the album name is displayed in the file list I think you should add the year info as well, [Album] ([Year]).
Yeah, why not, I`ll add it.
Would it be possible to display also track # in the file list when small thumbnails view is selected?
Yes, I`ll see if that will look ok.
In the header for the file list I think you should use [Date] instead of [Year], i.e. 2010-08-12 if available instead of just 2010
I think only year is returned from jriver, but I`ll check again.
No artist bio is found for multiple artists on one track. Would it be possible to always retrieve artist bio for the primary artist (the first artist in a list of artists)? Or at least put & between the artists when searching lastFM?
I think so, if the artists are delimited by a standard character, will check.
I think the metadata window should just go away if the user changes to thumbnail display of the file list
I agree. One of the things I did not have time to do before releasing the update.
The large cover art in the now playing screen should be the cover art for the playing track not the cover art for the album, i.e. the cover art that is shown when viewing metadata for the track. Why is the year/date info not displayed in the header above the playlist? Would it be possible to have the option to display thumbnails in the playlist?
Indeed, at the moment i only switch image if the new album name is different from the last. Will fix.
pcstockton:
Could the default, when you into the metadata/bio screen, be the Bio? Maybe have that an option in settings?
I`m not sure yet, but I guess when I get more content in there it could be useful.
multiblitz:
The volume slider goes always back to zero / the very left.
This is indeed a bug in the latest release. I never use the volume myself, so assumed it worked. Will be fiex for the next release.
nickba
When do expect to add WebPlay(streaming to device) feature to the app?
Soon:), Will start on it after the next small release. I want the rest of the remote to be solid before implementing.
wombat66
On the iPad version you can see the rating, but not change it. Hovever you can change the rating from the metadata view.
On the iPhone, there is very little space, so as others have mentioned it would not really be appropriate.
However, i`see ll if i can find a way to show it in a discrete manner. In any case you would not be able to change the rating.
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Thanks! You are very responsive!
Would it be possible to display also track # in the file list when small thumbnails view is selected?
Yes, I`ll see if that will look ok.
This is mostly for mock albums like the Rolling Stones Magazine top 500 songs, where I have collected the songs I have and added singles cover art to each file. The ability to see the position (track #) as well as the singles cover art would be useful.
Here are a couple of more observations:
a) I think you should always use [Album artist (auto)] in the header of the file list. As it is now the track artist(s) for the first track is shown in the header for VA albums, which is a bit misleading.
b) If a smartlist, or other file list, is empty show some text in the file list header to that effect ("No files to show"). As it is now only "'" is shown, which is rather cryptic.
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Great to hear, that you take care of the bug in the next release...is there a forecast when the next release if to be expected ? The volue setting is very import for those, who diectely use jriver as the preamp...
Another idea: Could you at some point of time store the library meta data like title information and cover art on the ipad ? Like a buffer which is filling itself over time...so that the reaction times become blazing fast ?
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multiblitz:
The new version will be out in a a couple of weeks time.
This was supposed to be a small maintenance release, but will be a bit bigger.
New featurer include:
- Much improved search functionality
- Search similar tags by selecting a tag in metadata view
- Much faster image display. All covers are now downloaded and displayed while scrolling, no need to stop scrolling and wait for the refresh.
- Toggle custom sorting on/off.
Storing metadata locally may be a good idea, but it would need to be deleted and refreshed on every new connection.
This is because the data returned from JRiver, specifically the id`s of files and items may change over time.
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That's great...looking forward...
I think that in the real world, the asynchronous, local buffering would be not such a big problem, I think most of us are not changing their music library each day or each minute. A simple buttom to re-start synchronization if needed (when the library has been changed) would be sufficient. A real fast reaction time is making the difference like night and day.
I guess a Napster-Streaming Option is too unrealistic, right ? This would send my Sonos-System in retirement (which I currently use to "google" music and play it back immediately (flatrate)).
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- Search similar tags by selecting a tag in metadata view
Wow, this is extremely useful function!
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I split discussion about charging for a new feature to a new thread here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=70924.0
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I just installed the latest version of JRemote on my new Ipad. Everything seems to run great, except for a few issues I keep having.
When I browse to my video collection, I am having issues viewing any of my movie files. If I try to browse by using "All files(by date imported)" or "All files(by name)" JRemote will boot me right out of the app. If I try to browse using types>movie, JRemote will boot me out of the app. However, if I browse types>TV show, it will show all my TV show files perfectly fine. What is even more odd is that if I browse by "years", it will pull up all my movie files just fine!
All of the other views seem to work fine, including all the audio related views. However, this seems to be a major bug since I can't browse my movie collection using anything but the "years" view. I've tried some custom views I've set in J River for browsing my movies and they don't work either.
I'd appreciate any advice anyone can offer me on this.....
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I forgot:When you fix the bug on the volume slider, could you please integrate a display of the volume setting like -6.3db as in mc ? That would ne xtremly helpful when comparing certain sound settings in different zones...to know that you chose the same volume...
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In your examples but especially with classical music in a lot of cases there are long artist and album names which really dont need additional clutter.
One man's clutter is another man's essential tool! :)
I rely on those track ratings. The first thing I do upon entering a new album into my library is to rate the tracks (and I'm now using JRemote for this). Later in the week I will have people over and audition music for them. I usually start with a prepared playlist but on the fly I'll pull up new albums and play the top one or two tracks. I do this by browsing in album view and looking for those rating stars. At this point, when browsing in album view, those stars are more important than the artist's name!
Before I even purchased JRemote, I stated the following on page one of this thread:
Here's my wish list before I can purchase/use this:
The ability to see and change ratings from the playing now screen. Also need to see the ratings next to song titles while browsing within albums.
Looking forward!
The immediate response from LesPaul was:
Thanks wombat, definitely on my to-do list.
Great!
Of course I purchased JRemote as soon as it was clear that ratings were enabled. Unfortunately the key element of seeing the ratings in album view is only in the iPad version. If I could fit an iPad in my pocket, I'd buy one today!
So yes, LesPaul, when you stated:
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wombat66
On the iPad version you can see the rating, but not change it. Hovever you can change the rating from the metadata view.
On the iPhone, there is very little space, so as others have mentioned it would not really be appropriate.
However, i`see ll if i can find a way to show it in a discrete manner. In any case you would not be able to change the rating.
Yes! I'll take you up on any manner of showing the ratings in album view in the iPhone version! Like I said earlier, maybe make it an option that can be toggled in the settings, or like you suggested, something discrete. Either way works great for me. I'd even be happy with the option for this being an in-app purchase!
As Glyner said, "On a small, touchscreen device especially, form = function." But for me, function trumps form... always. If the function I need isn't there, I won't use it. In fact this is why I'm here using JRiver Media Center in the first place and not iTunes.
In the meantime, I'm still "porting" everything over to a Squeezebox library so I can use iPeng combined with TrackStat just so I can see the ratings on my iphone. There are a lot of hoops I jump through to get those ratings visible, but for me, they're not clutter, they're indispensible, so jump I must. But hopefully not for long, because the JRemote / MC / Whitebear/ Squeezebox route would be far easier.
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Love the latest release. Thanks!
Have not read all the comments in this thread so sorry if this is a repeat.
I have configured a video view to show categories in the order: Artist, Album.
If an artist has multiple albums when I select an album the view header displays Album. I think it should display "Artist, Album" just like audio views do.
If an artist has only 1 album, when I select the Artist the view header displays Artist. I think it should display "Artist, Album" just like audio views do.
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Changed:
- "Album Artist" tag used instead of "Artist" when available.
- Always show artist name in track views.
Artist name is not shown when the file list is displayed as thumbnails.
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Does anyone know if JRemote can be launched from within other apps? I'd like to be able to launch it from the iRule remote control app.
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I just installed this on my new iPad (non-iPad 3) and created a zone for the laptop connected to my audio system. It works seamlessly. This is one spectacular app, and I haven't begun to explore its versatility.
Several possible bugs to report, and one or two preliminary comments.
When I attempt to use the search function by name of artist or by genre (I use that field in my library), the program crashes and I'm booted out. Never fails.
Also, tapping on the album icon brings up a blank page that doesn't fill. Attempting a search by album name crashes the program.
I've used the comment field on MC for reviews, personnel and other data that often doesn't show up in Last.fm's bio data, so adding that would be very useful for me. Streaming to the iPad would be the bee's knees. ::)
At $10, JRemote outperforms apps and programs costing multiples of that and your support is outstanding.
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LesPaul,
I am also now on new iPad 2012.
When I "preload images" in thumbnail, it crashes right before it finishes. It is fine in "small art/list mode".
Question. What is this preload supposed to do anyway? It doesn't change behavior at all.
One tiny request if you dont mind.
Can each "level" remember what style of list you used last? I could swear it worked like that previously. I like Artist in "List with art" style, and Albums in "thumb grid"
Otherwise it continues to be an app I use for hours a day. Best ever. It really makes J River a complete solution.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Finally bought it after read the positive comments, this is a great app and worked perfectly,thank you LesPaul!
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Does anyone know if JRemote can be launched from within other apps? I'd like to be able to launch it from the iRule remote control app.
Anyone know if this works? LesPaul?
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Hello;
I am using JRiver and JRemote and love them both. Actually I am quite unfamiliar to the software but getting used to it quickly. However I have some problems related to the JRemote and I would like to have your opinions about them. They are as follows:
1) Suppose you have 6 tracks in an album with 2 different composers, say Mozart and Chopin. Lets assume that the first three tracks are composed by Mozart and the rest by Chopin. If you make a search for Mozart with "composers" category you get only three tracks. If you want to listen the whole album, you can use "expand to full" feature, which is very useful, creating a new "search list" in the "category view". Thus far, everything seems ok. Howewer, I could not expand to full album view when using JRemote. I've tried many different configurations in the category view of the media network in the JRiver but I always get the tracks not the albums.
2) When you make a search with JRemote using the search section, you only get the associated tracks. For example if you try to search Stacey Kent and if you have, say, 10 albums of her, you get dozens of tracks in the search list but not the albums. This is quite annoying to tell the truth.
3) I always collect the associated high quality pdf booklets of the albums that I download from internet and I import them into the JRiver. Is there any way to see these booklets via JRemote? If not, is it possible to implement such feature for the next releases of the software? I am sure especially meticulous classical music listeners will benefit from it, as reading the pdf files while listening to a new album is a pure joy.
Otherwise, at least for now, your software is excellent. If you could suggest anything about the above problems I would highly appreciate.
Thank you very much.
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2) When you make a search with JRemote using the search section, you only get the associated tracks. For example if you try to search Stacey Kent and if you have, say, 10 albums of her, you get dozens of tracks in the search list but not the albums.
Agreed on the tracks only search. It would be cool if there was "Artists" that satisfied the search at the top of the list.
I dont think I want or need "Albums" because you can simply drill down from "Artist". It would be great if they were at the top of the list.
Thanks!
Patrick
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Patrick, I aggree, but for classical music, "artists" AND "albums" would do a better job. Besides, the other points (1 and 3) also do matter for me.
Regards
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Please make JRemote respect the MC sorting option "Ignore articles (a, an, the)".
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The sorting problem occurs when the number of items is large enough to cause grouping by first letter. If the number of items is small, then the "Ignore articles" option is properly respected.
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Yes. Ignore articles has never worked perfectly.
At this point it is treating them as a "blank" This makes all of "The" bands show up at the beginning of "T". UNTIL you get to "The Tx" (x being a variable). Then it gets even wonkier. I can see how it is sorting but no clue why.
-patrick
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ounal
On your 3rd point, have you considered using a pdf-to-Word converter and inserting the script in Notes? It displays nicely as metadata while the file is playing.
zootsuit
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Hi guys, sorry for the late replies, I have been really busy with the latest version lately. I personally think this a big improvement from the current version.
It was sent to apple for review 2 minutes ago, should be out in a few days.
Here are some of the new features/changes:
- iPad full retina support
- New and better search using JRiver`s fuzzy search
- Faster image download
- Images are now downloaded and displayed while scrolling
- Toggle sorting on indexed lists
- Choose default playmode
- Realtime volume slider with display
- Cancel loading of large lists
- Search metadata values by clicking on value
Fixes:
- Some animations were slow on iPad retina displays
- Mutiple optimizations and code changes to improve performance and stability
- Connection issues after first attempt failed.
The thumbnail display on the ipad2 is now super fast. The iPad3 version is still fast, but remember that every cover art needs to be downloaded as a 300*300 image. There are 24 of those images on a single screen, so it is a bit slower.
Image downloading and processing is now down on multiple threads, so that does help a lot.
I have removed the "preload images" feature in this version as its no longer needed as images are now displayed while scrolling. The main reason is that preloading was problematic. If the number of images was higher that the image cache allowed, some images would still miss cover after preloading.
I will read all your comments and suggestions later, but I need a break right now.
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A well deserved break. You fit nicely with the JRiver work ethic and productivity.
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zootsuit
Thank you. Could you be more specific about inserting the script in Notes? Do you say that it is possible to view the pdf booklets over JRemote with iPad2? Like I said, I'm a bit unfamiliar to the software.
Thanks.
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Ounal
Scan the booklet, and then use a PDF-to-Word conversion program. Copy the Word doc and insert it in the Note field. I suppose there may be some limitation on the number of characters, but if so, I haven't found it.
Zootsuit
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- Search metadata values by clicking on value
That will be interesting. I'm a heavy user of metadata, and the ability to search those fields opens up interesting possibilities.
Enjoy your break, lespaul
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Hi Guys, just want to give you an update on the next version.
Streaming to device, including Airplay support, background audio etc is 90% done. It seems to be working really well.
You just select a zone called "this device", and all playlists etc will be played on the device. All controls operate identically to when you are controlling MC.
Also, I`m doing some changes to the iPad layout, navigation and current covertart etc will be in a small bar on the left side, and there will be a small bar at the top with playback controls etc. This is more in line with other remotes and a better use of space on the iPad.
You will lose some space horizontally, but vertically it will be the same, since the bottom navbar will be removed.
Regarding "The, A" etc sorting, I will add this as a setting option as well.
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Excellent! You break was really short :)
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Wow. Airplay. Excellent!
Would you please try the video conversion options in MC? I could not get non-mp4 to play with WebGizmo. Curious if you think this is an MC problem. If yes, perhaps we can point JRiver in the right direction to fix.
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Wow. Airplay. Excellent!
Would you please try the video conversion options in MC? I could not get non-mp4 to play with WebGizmo. Curious if you think this is an MC problem. If yes, perhaps we can point JRiver in the right direction to fix.
I might be wrong but with larger video files I think at the moment its not really possible to stream them to the ipad efficiently. Jrmc needs to add some efficient on the fly conversion like the air video app does. That is my dream on the fly conversion with the compatibility and efficiency of air video all controlled from the far superior jrmc/jremote interface :)
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Does this means you can send audio to an AirPort Express for example?
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rjm, I have not got videos to stream natively in iOS, I forgot to mention that its currently only audio that works natively.
I have to admit I have not spent too much time on videos yet, but it definitely does not work out of the box.
May have to stream videos in a web view player, we will see.
sunfire7, Yes you can.
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Lespaul, thanks. You probably are aware of this, but please try Air Video for a really nice implementation and proof that what we want is feasible.
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i just downloaded the latestversion...many thanks for fixing the volume slider....nevertheless, on the ipad 3, i got quiet a bit of stability issues...app cancelled, shut it self down...or song not played..or takes forever to show the cover art....so, please continue to work on the stability before new features....please...
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I love this product and love the support! I appreaciate all of the work.
I have 2 issues with the current version:
When I choose album option, it should display all albums similar to when I choose artist and get my list ofmatrists. However it appears to search for a bit then shows nothing and closes the program.
2- I was playing a bunch of tunes tonight and someone said "do you have rock lobster" . I ran the search icon, and it found it. But holding my finger on the song would not show the play options- add to play now, play next,etc. once I had my finger pressing the song I had no option other than to let go, which the started playing the song and stopped the currently playing song. Bummer.
Any thoughts?
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multiblitz, are you using a beta version of MC?
Someone reported that one of the latest betas would make JRemote very unstable, with images failing to load etc.
The latest version was tested with both iPad2 and iPad3 without any of those issues you report.
chirpp, your second issue is indeed a bug.
A couple of other issues to be aware of:
For the iPad version, there seems to be problems with iOS4, so I strongly recommend updating to iOS5.
The latest search functionality requires MC 17.
The next version will be more extensively tested before release.
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Hi Lespaul,
First -great app. I downloaded it yesterday and am using it on iPad with MC17.122.
I am having one issue, however, that I hope you can help me with. All of the cover art loads for the artist view, but on Now Playing there's no cover art. Any ideas?
Thanks!
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hi, I just installed the new version of the app on my ipad2 and it launches...sits there for a few seconds, then closes.
I have MC17. I have removed the app and reinstalled it...but same result. the last version worked perfectly...:(
help, I rely on this app to play my music.
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great update Les!
I did notice one thing that could be fixed - when I search for an album and it's found, the results are listed with the songs not in track order - they appear randomly.
thanks
Tony
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LesPaul,
Thanks again for the continued, stellar support.
A few things for you after playing extensively over the weekend.
Firstly, I did not experience any crashes.
The meta data "links" only work on the iPad (this may already been known but I thought I would mention it).
The two sorting methods are strange. One (the original) has jump letters and the wonky "A, The" sorting. The other seems to eliminate the sorting issue but the jump letter, while shown, do not work. I am not sure what this new view is all about.
The other glitch I noticed was the meta-data on the iPad (new) not refreshing. If open when a new track started it did not refresh. Other time I went in and it was correct. Strange.
Thanks again!
Patrick
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Can/does JRemote send out a WOL command?
thx,
Patrick
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I'm experimenting a problem using JRiver in this config:
- "Server 1" used as library server
- "PC 2" connect directly to the hi-fi sytem using "Server 1" as library server
Both of them are in the last stable version (17.0.068)...
I connect JRemote to PC 2 and I'm able to navigate the whole library and use the app without any problem, except in playing now where the screen doesn't show the cover art (all the other infos are displayed correctly...)
Since I've introduced the new HW configuration and the JRiver SW upgrade at the same time I don't know if it's a problem of the JRiver upgrade or a JRemote bug... Any help?
Thanks,
Marco
(Sorry for my not so good english!)
Marco - did you ever resolve this? I have the same configuration and i'm having the same issue with no cover art on the Playing Now screen (MC17.122).
Thanks!
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hi, I just installed the new version of the app on my ipad2 and it launches...sits there for a few seconds, then closes.
I have MC17. I have removed the app and reinstalled it...but same result. the last version worked perfectly...:(
help, I rely on this app to play my music.
Hello,
Excuse my English, but i'm French.
Thank you for you app, it's very nice !
But i'm exactly in the same situation than "davros" on my iphone 3GS
Thank you for your job !
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Hi I'm noticing that JRemote overrides the volume for Media Center rather than adjusting based on what the Media Center is set to.
Meaning if I change the volume in JRemote and then later change the volume in Media Center through another method (doesn't matter how), accessing the Playing Now Screen of JRemote forces Media Center to adjust its volume again, rather than adjust the volume slider to match what Media Center was changed to.
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Hello,
Excuse my English, but i'm French.
Thank you for you app, it's very nice !
But i'm exactly in the same situation than "davros" on my iphone 3GS
Thank you for your job !
And I have also the same problem as "davros" and "elpadre31". How do we solve it?
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Marco - did you ever resolve this? I have the same configuration and i'm having the same issue with no cover art on the Playing Now screen (MC17.122).
Thanks!
No, I'm still stuck with it, I was hoping it'll be fixed with this version but nothing is changed...
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Hey, guys , there is indeed a problem with iOS4 in this release. The next version will be out next week with fixes and the new streaming features.
pcstockton, there will be a WOL command in the next version, located on a dedicated view for each connection.
The other sorting method will give you an unsorted view, useful when you are looking at latest albums etc. The index is not supposed to show, and is fixed.
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Lespaul,
First, excelent job!!
I don´t know if anyone already suggested that, but I think it is very important:
On the Iphone, when displaying the "Now Playing" Screen, it should display the selected zone.
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First, excelent job!!
On the Iphone, when displaying the "Now Playing" Screen, it should display the selected zone.
It does on mine. At least once you've played something to somewhere other than the "default" zone.
But you might be right that upon first opening it doesn't. I have done a fair amount of playing the wrong thing in the wrong place.
I agree, if it doesn't already, that it should always show the name of the zone if there is more than one.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Excuse my english, i'm from Québec
I just bought jremote Ipad.
You have the best remote I've had, and I have seven different remote.
JRemote is almost the most compleat.
I have a little problem ....... when I go to Audio --- Album --- and I click on the album he released 's only a couple of song titles, ...... . where is the other songs??
If I go to artist, same thing ----- one or two song. on a few other album everything is ok
If I go through research.... I found the album and all the songs appear.
thank you
Question? The songs that we select to play, can we create a playlist and save it??? in a futur??? last update??
Congratulation, very nice remote, i'm very happy, and I will talk about you on our forum 'quebec audio'
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It does on mine. At least once you've played something to somewhere other than the "default" zone.
But you might be right that upon first opening it doesn't. I have done a fair amount of playing the wrong thing in the wrong place.
I agree, if it doesn't already, that it should always show the name of the zone if there is more than one.
Cheers!
Patrick
That's s what I mean: when you open it first time it doesn't show the current zone. Seems to be a bug. It really should always show the current zone.
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That's s what I mean: when you open it first time it doesn't show the current zone.
Agreed. That would be handy.
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Can I just say...
I am so so so so so so so so so so so so so so SO excited to try this out when the new build hits the App Store. Les Paul, you rock sir.
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Lespaul,
There are 2 more little bugs:
1) The previous track icon and the next track icon should be |<< and >>| and not << and >>
2) It is very important to have a STOP button, because when you have linked zones and one of the linked zones is also used as a single zone, if this single zone is in pause mode, we can´t play in the linked zone!!! I don´t know if it is easy to understand. Here is an example:
Suppose you have 4 zones:
zone1
zone2
zone3
all_zones(zone1, zone2 and zone3 linked)
If you play and pause on zone1 and after that you decide to play on all_zones, you need to stop the zone1 first, otherwise MC will not play on all_zones.
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Any update on when (if) you expect custom views will be added? I'd like to be able to see album year in my list, and have better customization options for how the data is presented
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This isn't really a bug, but I thought you might want to fix it. The "Back Arrow" at the top left when you enter and album is blank. I think it should read "Artists" maybe? There might be a few other places where the label is not showing.
Of course this could all be by design.
Thanks again for the best app ever. I have 3 other friends using it as well!!! We are all loving it and eager to use for streaming remotely.
One question on that front.... Will you have control over the bitrate when streaming? MC has hidden settings for trancoding in this method. Only using Library Server or DLNA can you change transcoding settings.
I think the default for any streaming done outside of DLNA defaults to 128 kbps which is unlistenable. Some might have problems with 320. Maybe 256 is a good middle ground? Is there any way it could be user selectable?
Cheers!
Patrick
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Hey, guys , there is indeed a problem with iOS4 in this release....
I rely on this app to run my home audio and have not been able to launch it since the last update 1.95 on 11 April.
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I rely on this app to run my home audio and have not been able to launch it since the last update 1.95 on 11 April.
That's too bad. I think it is helpful that lespaul says he intends to keep supporting iOS4 for the time being though.
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I removed some off topic comments.
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Just used JRemote on iPad3, very nice.
Thanks, makes the home theater experience great!
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Hi Guys, I will release the new version this week with streaming support and bug fixes, as well as some interface polish.
The reason It has taken this long is that I rewrote much of the code regarding playback. This was to support the new streaming features as well as in
preparation for a later release where play control etc will be always visible from the main screen.
I`m really sorry for those running iOS4 with the current release, at least that bug is fixed in the latest one.
Regarding streaming, Its currently streaming in 128kbs, I will see if one can change that in MC.
I agree that 128 kbs is not enough for some people.
I will also make sure that the current zone is visible right from the start. As some have mentioned It`s currently only visible after you select a new zone.
Other small additions in this release:
- Wake on lan commands are now sent to computer when connecting.
- Two new settings, "keep screen on" and "ignore sort articles(a,an,the)".
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Hi I'm noticing that JRemote overrides the volume for Media Center rather than adjusting based on what the Media Center is set to.
Meaning if I change the volume in JRemote and then later change the volume in Media Center through another method (doesn't matter how), accessing the Playing Now Screen of JRemote forces Media Center to adjust its volume again, rather than adjust the volume slider to match what Media Center was changed to.
Hi datdude, thank you for reporting this. I will investigate it, It should not update the volume control unless you move it.
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SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks LesPaul!
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Lespaul, am very grateful for the hard work and excellent program. Still a few glitches (I run iOS 5).
When I enter a search term, the program hunts for a few seconds, then turns up a blank page that never populates. Some other fields like genre load normally. The album field goes into a long search but turns nothing up.
The search function would be very important for me. The only differentiating factor I can think of is that I have a huge library, 350k files. But why would that result in a blank page? Is the program simply balking at a search of that magnitude? When I search by artist, I get immediate results.
BTW, Media Center itself has no problem with the library. The search function in the latest build responds almost immediately.
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Cool looking forward to the interface polish and keep screen on option.
I've asked before, and I do apologize for repeating myself, but are you planning to add custom view support into a future release? I find the default album, artists etc views limited and don't really capture the power of what JRiver is all about (custom views into a database configured to be whatever you want them to be). things like new releases from specific folders, change the way the data is displayed adding or removing columns, etc.
Hi Guys, I will release the new version this week with streaming support and bug fixes, as well as some interface polish.
The reason It has taken this long is that I rewrote much of the code regarding playback. This was to support the new streaming features as well as in
preparation for a later release where play control etc will be always visible from the main screen.
I`m really sorry for those running iOS4 with the current release, at least that bug is fixed in the latest one.
Regarding streaming, Its currently streaming in 128kbs, I will see if one can change that in MC.
I agree that 128 kbs is not enough for some people.
I will also make sure that the current zone is visible right from the start. As some have mentioned It`s currently only visible after you select a new zone.
Other small additions in this release:
- Wake on lan commands are now sent to computer when connecting.
- Two new settings, "keep screen on" and "ignore sort articles(a,an,the)".
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Lespaul,
Dude!! I have been using Webremote on an iPad since the iPad first came out. Been an MC user since version 12 at least and I must say, using your remote with MC17 is very slick and fast. You have done an awesome job of balancing form and function. (function without form means I alone can use it, form without function means it doesn't do what I need and is hence useless)
I have various audio zones setup of the main server piping music throughout the house and have customized my views and this just works great!
I have to be honest, it is not often I buy an app for this much without trying out a "lite" version (not an option in this case), but based on the feedback in this thread from many users whose views I greatly respect, it was worth a try, and well worth the cash!
Thanks for the great work and no idea why it took me so long to try this out.
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Hi Horse, thank you for the nice feedback:)
moophone:
yes, I am planning to add more customization to the app. This will most likely only apply to the ipad version, since the iPhone version is pretty limited in space.
I can`t promise a date as to when this will be available, since my time is limited and there are more pressing features that need to be developed.
The next version will focus mainly on the iPad interface. Now that you can stream to the device, there is more need than ever for some interface additions, like play controls, cover art, zone switching etc always available from the main interface. I have some ideas for how to implement this without wasting too much space.
The new version has been submitted to the app store and is waiting for approval.
I just want to comment on a few changes:
- On the iPhone i have added a stop button. Because of this I have moved the zone and metadata button to the detail view. (The one you see if you tap on the cover art)
- Streaming in this release is limited to audio. The quality of the stream is limited to 128kbs . I have currently found no way to stream in higher quality.
Video streaming will be available in the next release.
On a final note, future releases may be limited to iOS5. It is quite restrictive to support older versions.
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Thanks Les Paul. Cant wait!
Two comments:
- What is the need of a stop button? Especially if it means zone selection and meta data button are buried. maybe I need to see it first before complaining huh? ;)
- VERY much looking forward to streaming to the device. This is huge! Thanks so much for working to get this enabled. What is up with the 128 only? I will re-bump my thread regrading this hidden auto-conversion that it seems no one has control over. Maybe you could reply as well in there?
Cheers.
Patrick
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Lespaul,
Fisrt, thanks for implementing all these great features. Your app is by far the best app for MC!
Pcstockton,
Here is a copy of my previous post, it explains why we need the Stop button:
Lespaul,
There are 2 more little bugs:
1) The previous track icon and the next track icon should be |<< and >>| and not << and >>
2) It is very important to have a STOP button, because when you have linked zones and one of the linked zones is also used as a single zone, if this single zone is in pause mode, we can´t play in the linked zone!!! I don´t know if it is easy to understand. Here is an example:
Suppose you have 4 zones:
zone1
zone2
zone3
all_zones(zone1, zone2 and zone3 linked)
If you play and pause on zone1 and after that you decide to play on all_zones, you need to stop the zone1 first, otherwise MC will not play on all_zones.
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nick,
I see....
Doesn't this seem like a bug with MC itself? Or does MC not work like that when using standard UI?
-patrick
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Pcstockton,
It is not a bug with MC, it happens even when using the standard UI.
Of course MC developers could make it better just by issuing an automatic Stop command to a zone A if the other link zone contains this zone A.
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sounds like a bug with MC in general to me. Is there any reason why you would want MC to act that way with linked zones regardless of using Standard View or JRemote?
Burying the Zone selection is a bad idea. We will need to go into the playlist to find it?
It makes more sense for MC to fix the "Pause with Linked Zones" issue, if it actually is an issue outside of your usage.
-Patrick
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I have JPlay, which is a plugin for JRiver Media Center.
When I use JRemote, I am unable to access JPlay.
Is there any way to access this?
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Uninstall jplay. It is a fraud.
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pstockton, the buttons have been moved to the detail view, and only requires a tap on the screen.
During testing I did not find this to be problematic. but opinions may vary.
margolbe, JPlay is available as a zone usually called "jplay". It is selectable just like any other zone.
This of course require the jriver integration plugin to begin with.
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LesPaul,
Where can I find the JRiver integration plugin?
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Thanks LesPaul! I am sure you know what you are doing. The app is so good.
I just recently started using zones a bit (getting nice out and need to send audio to the BBQ) and liked instant access to it on the playing now screen.
If there is any way to reincorporate it into as many views as possible I would personally love it.
-patrick
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silly question....
is there ANY chance that for streaming to the device with JRemote we could use the DLNA servers? If so we could use it to stream full lossless. 128 mp3 is unlistenable (even with the most basic systems) and when streaming at the home network full 16/44 FLACs roll just fine.
Thanks!
Patrick
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Thats not a silly question Patrick.
I have started to look at the DLNA capabilities of JRiver. Mostly because i just got myself an OPPO blu-ray player that supports DLNA.
I`m still in the process of just looking around, but maybe JRemote can act as a DLNA client later on.
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Cheers!
Thanks Lespaul.
It would be a moot point if JRiver would allow us to configure the compression (or lack of) on whatever we call the "hidden" server that Gizmo, Webgizmo, Webplay, and JRemote uses.
Thanks!
Patrick
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Lespaul,
have you seen this ... http://code.google.com/p/upnpx/ (http://code.google.com/p/upnpx/) ?
Would it help to support just one uncompressed DLNA audio setting of MC
(e.g. Conversion: Always convert / Encoder: Uncompressed) to avoid
issues with some codecs not natively supported by iOS?
It would be so nice to get rid of PlugPlayer ;)
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Okay, king of the dumb@arces here. So I installed the JRemote app to iphone 4s, entered the access key. I get an error: "Access key was verified, but computer connection failed. Make sure your computer is running and connected to a network." I am trying to connect to my laptop which is wirelessly connected to my Netgear WNDR3700 router.
Any help? ? ?
Thank You very much.
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Okay, king of the dumb@arces here. So I installed the JRemote app to iphone 4s, entered the access key. I get an error: "Access key was verified, but computer connection failed. Make sure your computer is running and connected to a network." I am trying to connect to my laptop which is wirelessly connected to my Netgear WNDR3700 router.
Any help? ? ?
Thank You very much.
I am having the same problem on Windows 7 desktop and iPhone 4s. I tried manual settings using IP address as well but get the same result. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Can't get the screen to work in the 'remote' window on my iPad1, just a blank screen. Any suggestions how to fix it?
Other than that seems to operate fine. Great app!
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Hi Lespaul,
I just downloaded the new version and it is great!!! I just changed the 4 stars on the Appstore to 5, because it now has streaming to the device!!
The Stop button works as it should and now the linked zones work!
The new interface icons are great!
As I am a programmer too, I will try to help you to sort bugs and give my opinion for improvements. Note: I am using the Iphone version.
BUGS:
1) When streaming to the device, from a stop or pause state, if you choose a track, the music will start, but the Play icon will not change to pause.
2) This one is not related to the latest version only. When using any zone, when you try to adjust the volume using the slider, sometimes the MC doesn´t respond and the slider comes back from the last position. If you can´t reproduce this bug, try to use JRemote thru an internet connection and play with the volume slider.
Sometimes it becomes impossible to change the volume, but it still shows the volume if I change it directly on MC or other app. Try make the tests switching between zones, that might trigger the bug. This is the most important bug to fix!
3) If you select THIS DEVICE as zone, play a track, change to another zone, play a track and after that you go back to THIS DEVICE, the audio goes back, but cover art,track name, etc does not update to THIS DEVICE.
4) If there is a track playing on THIS DEVICE and you go to another zone, if the track ends and another one begins, it goes back to THIS DEVICE cover art, but the controls keep in the last zone.
Improvements:
1) Try to squeeze things a little bit to show the current zone without the need to touch the cover art.
2) Add an option to the settings to choose the streaming to device bitrate.
3) When displaying search results, display them in alphabetical order.
4) Add lyrics feature.
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Just tried 2.0. Streaming audio with AirPlay to other devices works very nice. Thank you!
When I attempt to stream an IOS compatible mp4 video to my iPad JRemote crashes.
I hope you find a way to make video and AirPlay work.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Thanks so much LesPaul.
For some reason my server has the incorrect "global address" entered (my IP address recently changed). I cannot seem to change this remotely.
I will delete and re-enter the server when I get home.
I cant wait to use this and delete ALL other apps/control points. So excited.
One question for you and one suggestion:
1) The dev of the My River app has found a way to make the mp3 compression customizable. Is this something you think you can implement? Is there ANY way that "never convert" could be an option for home streaming?
2) If there is ANY way to can find a way to restore the Zone selection to the main screen that would be great. In fact this would be great to have anywhere possible.
Thanks again!
Patrick
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Thanks Guys,
I just saw yesterday that the My River author had found a way to select stream quality, so I did some more investigating and found out how.
I have already added it to the code, but you wont get it until the next version.
I also found that you can stream uncompressed through the webservice, so I could basically implement a FLAC decoder in the app. I am still thinking about how to get this to play nice with iOS`s built in avplayer, but this is definately something I will implement later. Wav is supported already by iOS, so that should have most people covered.
nickba, thank you for your detailed report, much appreciated. I will do my best to fix the issues.
I will also look at how zone selection can be made more accessible in the iPhone version.
The next version will focus mainly on a better iPad interface.
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pcstockton, all info about a server is now visible and editable. Just click the blue arrow on the right side of your saved server and edit.
Often, the global address will be different than what MC provides, for example if you use one of the static ip providers.
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Thanks Lespaul.
I went in to the settings for the server via the arrow you mentioned.
I can change the Global IP but I cannot save it. It changes back to the incorrect one.
No matter, I went home and deleted the server and re-added it. IP Address is correct now.
But I cannot get it to stream when off my wifi network. When on wifi, Playing to the device works fine.
But if I turn my iPhone's wifi off, I cannot connect. I of course have all needed ports opened and correct IP addresses.
Thoughts?
Thanks again! (my finger is on the delete app button for PP etc.)
Patrick
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I'm using iPod 4 with version 5.1.1 software. I upgraded to the latest JRemote today. In playing now screen I see no cover art. All I see is a large musical note. In all the the other screens that use smaller thumbnail cover art, the cover thumbnails are displayed. It's only the full size covers that should show in playing now that don't come up.
I've tried playlists, individual albums, same problem. I uninstalled and reinstalled JRemote and same problem.
I use BitRemote, webgizmo and My River as well and all of those show artwork with no issues. I had this identical issue with the previous version of JRemote as well. I was under the impression that this upgrade would fix the problem. Unfortunately, no.
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Just tried 2.0 for the first time (from home, no remote use yet).
Wow.
I've honestly been dreaming about this since the first iPhone came out. Really, really well done.
I just need one thing... A way to set a default zone per-server (or global if you must). I want to be able to start it up in On This Device mode, so that it can just basically replace the Music App. Opening JRemote and remembering to switch it to On This Device before just listening to music is too fiddly (especially for my wife).
So, a global option would do. But, some of my servers (the HTPC or the Video Wall, for example) will never be used in On This Device mode, and JRemote will be used as a remote, so a per-server option would be better.
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I should mention in addition to my message above that MyRiver is still working remotely. I cant get it to connect with my server remotely with JRemote though.
Maybe delete the app and reinstall?
Thanks again!
Patrick
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Lasker, your problem with cover art is really strange. I will look at the code and see what may be different from how the regular images are feched.
I know that they all use the same webservice operation though.
glynor, I think I will add this both ways you describe, so JRemote will remember the last zone for each server, but can be overriden by setting a "Use local player as default" or something like that.
pstockton, connecting remotely does work for me. I used a no-ip.com address and set a redirect on the router to the MC machine.
I will do some further experiments tomorrow to see if I can find some possible issues.
Please let me know if you get it working.
BTW, to anyone not able to save settings from the edit server page, please re-add the server. That will fix the problem.
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Thanks LesPaul!
I do have it working now remotely. I deleted the app and reinstalled (not sure if that was key or not).
But I created/connected via IP address using my actual IP. So I am not sure how this will work when I get home.
Maybe it doesn't need my local address at all , e.g. 192.168.XXX
Right now "Global Access" is blank. What should be there is in the "Address".
I will let you know how I get along when I get home.
BRILLIANT app my friend. So good.
Deleting PP.......... now!
-Patrick
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I just need one thing... A way to set a default zone per-server (or global if you must). I want to be able to start it up in On This Device mode, so that it can just basically replace the Music App. Opening JRemote and remembering to switch it to On This Device before just listening to music is too fiddly (especially for my wife).
So, a global option would do. But, some of my servers (the HTPC or the Video Wall, for example) will never be used in On This Device mode, and JRemote will be used as a remote, so a per-server option would be better.
A default zone per server would be great.
How is it currently set-up? Will it simply go to the last zone used? I haven't used it much yet for zones since I was just using it as a remote. I do use it for multi-zone at a buddy's house with a SB Touch in addition to his PC server.
This brings up a slightly related topic. How can Zone selection be more ubiquitously incorporated? How can selecting, and more importantly, determine which zone you are controlling?
This isn't even easy to the novice in MC itself. While playing Foosball in the man-cave-garage, we have had the ladies change our music then come ask why nothing is playing inside. Obviously they didn't know to click on "Here" at the top left before selecting something.
Same goes on JRemote. You must train yourself, before searching for something, to go to Playing Now first and select the zone you are playing in.
I dont think a "Play to Zone XYZ" option while browsing is an answer.
Is there a way to have a persistent "Controlling: XYZ" bar at the bottom of the screen. Always there in all screens and views?
Just thinking out loud here.
I think something else is needed in addition to something like Default Zones.
Thoughts?
Patrick
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I am having the same problem on Windows 7 desktop and iPhone 4s. I tried manual settings using IP address as well but get the same result. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
SOLVED! ok, I knew I was a dumb@ss but this is embarrassing. It may help others though so I will put away my shame and share......In Windows 7 firewall, when you open the "Turn Windows Firewall on or Off" window I was overlooking this setting: "Block all connections, Including those in the list of allowed connections list".
It is now working.
Thank You Sven and JimH!
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Thanks Lespaul,
the newest changes are really amazing, I absolutely like the app!
But there is a very small new bug in the search view, and only in landscape view: the search bar is too short.
What I'm still missing, is cover art in the search view ...
Really great work, thank you very much,
Bernhard
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A default zone per server would be great.
How is it currently set-up? Will it simply go to the last zone used?
Sort-of...
It remembers the most recently used Zone, but only until the App closes itself (if you don't use it for a LONG time, reboot the device, or manually quit it using the Multitasking Tray minuses). If the app is completely quit, it "forgets" and reverts back to Zone 1 on the server in question. I'm not sure what happens if you switch around to different Servers, but I bet it "forgets" then too.
That's the problem. If I was trying to use it to replace the built-in Music app for my wife, the behavior would be inconsistent. I need a way to set it to default to Play to This Device for her whenever she is connected to our "main server", and to default to "remote control mode" whenever she connects to our HTPC (which probably wouldn't happen much at first, but as she learns she might use it that way too).
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agreed.
There must be a better way to select the zone before doing anything else.
Even though I know exactly how it works, i just accidentally played an album at home, erasing my lady's current playlist she was listening to. Oooops. She called and asked why John Zorn just started playing. I of course meant to "Play to this device".
Does the app know when you are not on the home network? If so, when off network it should automatically default to "Play on this device". That would solve at least one scenario.
Otherwise, I am not sure how to do it but I think zone selection needs to be easier to determine and to select.
The problem is, i certainly don't want to have to select the zone at home when I am simply using it as a remote.
Maybe there is no easy way.....
-Patrick
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glynor, I think I will add this both ways you describe, so JRemote will remember the last zone for each server, but can be overriden by setting a "Use local player as default" or something like that.
That would work for me, so long as it remembers the last zone on a per-server basis (with the Use Local Player override honored if it is enabled). That does seem to be what you meant, but just to be sure.
Just tried 2.0 for the first time (from home, no remote use yet).
I tried it out fairly extensively today remotely. Worked absolutely brilliantly for music playback, even over 3G. Track changes weren't "gapless" but they were VERY quick and smooth, even when I had somewhat less-than-perfect coverage. It auto-resumes properly when stopped/paused (and resumes correctly when connected to my car stereo).
All in all, very, very, very good. I would say it has exceeded my expectations in most ways (particularly when switching tracks).
I did notice a few things though...
Switching Connections (WiFi/3G):
JRemote does seem to get a bit confused when your connection switches from 3G to Wifi (or the reverse). It doesn't throw an error or anything, but it just stops actually Playing anything (no matter how many times you tap the Play button).
I'm just guessing that it happens when you switch from 3G to Wifi and the reverse, honestly. In any case, 2-3 times today as I went in and out of my office, it got "confused" and would no longer play anything. I had to go back and reconnect to the server from the main page to get it to work again (and pick the Zone again). As I just drove around in my car and switched from cell tower to cell tower, though, it worked perfectly.
EDIT: To add a little clarity here... When I was coming into work (so my phone was on 3G), playback kept working as I entered the office. But I noticed that my phone's display never showed the WiFi indicator, and stayed "locked" on 3G. The "current track" kept playing until it was over. But, once it ended, Playback just stopped. I pulled out the phone and hit "Play" again, but nothing happened. The same thing happened when I was listening to something on the way out of the office. When I walked out of WiFi range, it kept playing as long as it could, but then it stopped. Once it stopped, though, you couldn't restart playback without reconnecting to the Server (killing JRemote completely, or going into the Servers list and picking the server and zone again). The UI remained responsive, but nothing "worked" until I reconnected.
That's fine, and I'd expect it to "error" and stop playing (though if you can switch seamlessly, even better) when switching connections. But, when I hit "Play" again to resume playback, it should fix itself. It just seems like it needs a connection sanity check: If the device's IP address changes, it needs to "reconnect" on its own and go back to where it was.
Using iCatcher as an example again... When I'm streaming a Podcast in iCatcher at the office via WiFi, and I walk out to the car (out of WiFi range), it will stop playing when it can't get the Wifi signal anymore. But, I can then pull out the phone and just hit the Play button and it starts back up where it left off. It would, of course, be better to not even have to pull it out and hit Play again (if it just stopped till it could reconnect and rebuffer), but that's a very small "polish" detail, and if it is difficult, it isn't that big of a deal.
Audiobook Playback:
The behavior isn't ideal for Audiobook playback. The Track Forward/Back buttons still work as Track Forward/Back buttons. It would be much more convenient if, when an Audiobook (or Podcast too, I suppose), was playing if these would just switch to "Seek buttons". I prefer the "30-seconds-ahead, 10-seconds-back" style behavior, but 30/30 would do. In many cases when I'm listening to an Audiobook, I missed the last sentence or two as my mind wandered, and I need to be able to quickly skip back a few seconds. The Track Forward/Back buttons aren't useful, and using the scrub bar is too fiddly (especially while driving).
My podcast catcher app (iCatcher) does this, and it is nice. It even works with my car stereo's steering wheel "remote" (they properly do the 30-sec skips instead of Next/Prev Track).
I'm not sure if you can "detect" the [Media Sub Type] of the files via the Web API, but if so, it would be nice to handle Audiobooks and Podcasts in this way.
EDIT: I should make it clear, I'm NOT looking for separate 30-second seek buttons (because that would clutter up the UI on the small phone screen). If you can "tell" that the file playing is an Audiobook, just make the Next/Prev Track buttons act as seek buttons instead. If the user really wants to switch tracks/files, they can always just hit the back button to see the track listing again. I find when playing Audiobooks, I never (or very rarely) want to do a "real" Next/Prev Track. But I want to skip backwards a lot.
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Does the app know when you are not on the home network? If so, when off network it should automatically default to "Play on this device". That would solve at least one scenario.
Meh. Then you couldn't use it as a remote unless you were on the same network as the server. This is probably not that common in a home-use scenario, but you never know. People might have their WiFi separate from their internal LAN for security reasons. Or, maybe they have no home WiFi and just use their 3G connection for Wireless access. Who knows. In any case...
Better to use the solution already discussed. If it remembers the last-used Zone on a per-server basis, and also allows you to set particular Servers to "Default to Play on This Device" mode, then that would cover basically any scenario I can think of totally and completely.
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LesPaul,
Regarding connecting and bugs....
1) I cannot get remote streaming to work with "192.168.1.xxx" as the "Address" and my actual address in the "Global access".
2) When on the home network "192.168.1.xxx" does work as the "Address"
3) I can only get remote streaming to work with my Global access address in the "Address" as well as "Global" field.
Either way I can make it work, but I figured I would mention it.
Also....
When using multiple zones, stopping or pausing on secondary zones is undone when you re-enter the zone.
Example:
- Start Music in Main Zone
- Start music in Secondary Zone.
- Stop or pause in Secondary Zone
- Go back to Main zone
- When re-entering the Secondary Zone, playback restarts automatically.
Also, as mentioned above by Nick, the app doesn't change the label of the zone you are in when you go to a secondary local zone and back to the main zone. Art, music and control change but the label says I am in a different zone.
Lastly, linked zones totally threw a wrench in the works. Not sure if this has anything to do with the newest version or what was mentioned above about needing a stop button. I linked two zones just for fun. After I unlinked I was having glitches, screen flashes and strange activity in both linked zones. I could only remedy by restarting the app AND MC server.
Loving it so far!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks again,
Patrick
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1) I cannot get remote streaming to work with "192.168.1.xxx" as the "Address" and my actual address in the "Global access".
2) When on the home network "192.168.1.xxx" does work as the "Address"
3) I can only get remote streaming to work with my Global access address in the "Address" as well as "Global" field.
I didn't encounter any of this with my servers, but mine are simpler.
My server has a DNS name that is resolvable/reachable from both inside my home LAN and outside my home LAN properly. So my "Global access" field is just blank, and my server addresses are fully-qualified domain names.
I did considerable work on my firewall/router to make this work correctly before JRemote was even launched, and so it keeps things simple.
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Meh. Then you couldn't use it as a remote unless you were on the same network as the server.
I did not mean permanently. Simply the default.
Better to use the solution already discussed. If it remembers the last-used Zone on a per-server basis, and also allows you to set particular Servers to "Default to Play on This Device" mode, then that would cover basically any scenario I can think of totally and completely.
Thanks for helping Glynor.
Are you saying I should set-up another server exactly as my main server and call it "Patrick iPhone" or something? Then set the default zone in JRemote to "Play to this device"?
I am VERY new to Zones. I didn't even know I could create a Zone. I thought Zones were automatically created by JRiver when it sees a DLNA renderer? But I clearly see I can create one.
You mention "per server". I only have one server right? How do you set-up more than one server without running MC on different PCs?
This is a little confusing to me. How do you set-up multiple servers?
That asked, if two of us are both streaming remotely do we need to use different servers? Or are our seperate iPhone creating their own remote zones.
I have now totally confused myself with server vs zone..... My brain hurts.
-Patrick
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But wait.... if I create multiple servers then our ladies need to remember to connect to the correct server before doing anything. How is this easier than remembering to set the zone before playing something?
Unless I had a unique server for every possible zone, I will then need to potentially select both the server and the zone every time I use the app?? No?
As you can see I am confused. Sorry.
Except for needing to delete and reconnect to my server yesterday, I only have to select a new server when I go to a friend's house where I know I need to connect to a new server. Before streaming was implemented the app automatically made me select a new server because it obviously couldn't connect to my home network.
I cant imagine having to open the app and select a server every time. This at least has always worked very well.
Unless I am misunderstanding (likely), I would rather simply get into the habit of remembering to select the zone first (with a default in place of course).
That was the reason for my suggestion above. Assuming most have one server (is that a good assumption?), it would be cool if you could set it to default to "play on this device" when not on home network. If you wanted to use it as a remote from off network you would simply change to "Home" or whatever. And when on home network it would default to the "Main Zone".
Thanks!
Patrick
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I did not mean permanently. Simply the default.
Thanks for helping Glynor.
Are you saying I should set-up another server exactly as my main server and call it "Patrick iPhone" or something? Then set the default zone in JRemote to "Play to this device"?
I am VERY new to Zones. I didn't even know I could create a Zone. I thought Zones were automatically created by JRiver when it sees a DLNA renderer? But I clearly see I can create one.
I'm not sure how you have it set up at home, but I'll explain my setup at home, and maybe it'll be clear.
* My Server is down in the basement. It is my "man cave" PC, but it is set up as a PC at a desk. It runs MC in Library Server mode when it boots, and when you close MC it goes back to Library Server mode (via Options -> Startup -> Windows Startup). This is the server you get to if you go to lan.glynorsnetwork.com, and this is the one I want to basically always use in Play on my Device mode. I mean, once-in-a-blue-moon maybe I'd want to "Remote Control" the server itself, but rarely (because if I'm sitting there, I'm at a desk, and reaching for my phone won't be more convenient than moving my hand already on the mouse/keyboard). So, I want this "entry" to default to Play on This Device mode (meaning, it can be changed once you are in JRemote, but it "starts up" in that mode for that Server).
* My HTPC is in the Living room. It runs MC in Client Mode and connects to the server in the basement. However, the HTPC also runs it's own server via Options -> Media Network. (This works best if the clients use a different Port Number, by the way.) It seems a little counter-intuitive, but you can certainly "serve" a library even from a copy of MC that itself is in client mode. In my case, MC doesn't run all the time on the HTPC (Options > Startup > Windows Startup is set to Nothing there), but when MC is open, the server exists and works. The HTPC only has one zone, so remembering the last used mode would work fine.
* Lastly, I have the Video Wall server at the office (among other machines). It has three different playback zones (two on the wall and one that connects to the projector in our Auditorium). On that machine, I'll typically JRemote to "remote control" one or more of those zones. But, occasionally I might still want to Play to the Device (probably not until Video streaming works better, but maybe if I make special iDevice friendly views or something). In this case, I'd want JRemote to remember whatever zone it was last using on that server.
I could, if I wanted to, also "remote control" the HTPC by connecting to the Server in JRemote instead, and then switching the active Zone to the HTPC's Zone, just like I can "remote control" the HTPC from the server down in the basement. But that's jumping through a bunch of hoops when there is no need, since JRemote can connect to the Client and control it directly.
So...
I want to set the HTPC entry like this:
Default Zone: Last Used
And the Video Wall Server entry like this:
Default Zone: Last Used
But the Server entry like this:
Default Zone: Play on This Device
I'd originally thought it would be cool if you could pick a default playback Zone explicitly from a list for each server in JRemote. But on reflection, I don't think that's necessary. In all of my cases (which seem to run the gamut of possibilities) it would work fine to just remember the last-used mode, and is less confusing. Plus, there is the issue of what if the Zones change between when JRemote was last run? If it just "remembers the last used", and that zone disappears, well just go back to the default zone.
But, for my main server, I'll almost never actually use any Zone other than Play to this Device. It is set up with a mouse and keyboard at a desk, right? I mean, I suppose if I really want to use JRemote to control the server, I could then just switch it the same way I do it now, and use it in Remote Control mode for that session. But next time JRemote launches, I want it to go back to Play to this Device mode without having to fiddle with it. Hence, the override.
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PS. Also, yes, I don't see any reason why you couldn't add the same server to JRemote's server list twice, once in Play to This Device mode, and once in Last Used Zone mode.
I probably wouldn't need to because of my setup. However, if your HTPC is your server, and sometimes you want to play from it, and sometimes you want to control it, then this would be the most convenient method. Make one "entry" for "Remote Play mode", and one "entry" for "Remote Control mode". They'd just point to the same IP address or Server key, but the Default Zone control would be set differently.
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PS. Also, yes, I don't see any reason why you couldn't add the same server to JRemote's server list twice, once in Play to This Device mode, and once in Last Used Zone mode.
I probably wouldn't need to because of my setup. However, if your HTPC is your server, and sometimes you want to play from it, and sometimes you want to control it, then this would be the most convenient method. Make one "entry" for "Remote Play mode", and one "entry" for "Remote Control mode". They'd just point to the same IP address or Server key, but the Default Zone control would be set differently.
Aha!!! I am understanding. I would create a new server in JRemote NOT in MC. Making sense.
How would I differentiate between the two? Can I manually rename the server in JRemote? Sorry, phone died and is on charger (too much streaming today!!!)
And yes, I only use one server, my HTPC. I cant imagine using more than one.
To better learn and understand, why would you need to control your HTPC if you serve from the Server which is always on. I understand you having a separate server for your office PC. This is the same as my friend's house where I expect to be asked to pick a new server.
I am asking because I am thinking about moving my hard drives to my office (just like your cave), then loading the library on my HTPC. This way I dont have spinning drives in my HTPC room and dont have to leave it on 24/7. My office PC is always running.
Would this work for me?
Thanks a ton.
Patrick
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To better learn and understand, why would you need to control your HTPC if you serve from the Server which is always on.
Because JRemote makes a nice remote control. Particularly for playing music when we're all hanging out playing a game or whatever. It is a very good "playlist builder/maintainer" for entertaining.
I am asking because I am thinking about moving my hard drives to my office (just like your cave), then loading the library on my HTPC. This way I dont have spinning drives in my HTPC room and dont have to leave it on 24/7. My office PC is always running.
Would this work for me?
Yeah. That's exactly why I moved all of my media to the server in the basement. The basement PC ("my" PC) was always on anyway. And I don't care how loud it is, or how many drives it has. And that way I can shut everything down when we go away (and let the HTPC go into "full sleep mode" while we aren't using it).
The HTPC doesn't have ANY media locally. It mounts the server's drives as network drives (using matching drive letters). It doesn't even really have its own Library in MC (well, it does, but only because they make you have a default, I never use it). It is always in Client mode.
And, the HTPC has a SSD for a C drive, so it is very, very quiet. ;)
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How would I differentiate between the two? Can I manually rename the server in JRemote?
Yeah, you can give them whatever names you want.
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Great, great, great. I am so very excited and finally feel like I am getting beneath the very thin veneer of just playing (locally) music in a single zone in MC.
I have a couple of other questions for you if you don't mind. I will gladly mail you a sixer of Oregon's finest (Beer that is... or liquor) if I could either email you or msg you here with a few questions. I dont want to further derail this thread.
Cheers,
Patrick
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LesPaul!!!!! You must be kidding me! YOU RULE!
Spent plenty of time in the car today streaming. You hijacked the lock screen controls! So good.
Not only that but playback stops when you remove something from the headphone jack. Just like with the iPod/Music App.
I am in awe. I never expected JRemote to work like this.
I am guessing your Airplay integration brought this to the table. In any case this app is amazing.
3 cheers,
Patrick
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Regarding bugs:
- Getting a few crashes now and then. No biggie.
- Moving between wifi and 3G can stop playback. But I think it may be isolated to moving between 3G and wifi that is NOT your home network. It appears i can move between my home wifi and 3G without issue.
- The Zone "label" not changing when moving between zones may be isolated to being ON the home network. It seemed to work correctly all day when cruising around.
- When stopping playback in "this device" zone, then going to another zone, then re-entering "this device", JRemote automatically restarts the music. I dont think I have noticed this with other zones.
Otherwise everything is REALLY working wonderfully.
Thanks again.
-Patrick
PS - do you have a paypal account or something we can donate to for your efforts? I know we bought the app and all, maybe even turned on a few friends, but some of us might be interested in throwing you a couple of extra bones. I have NEVER felt the need to give anyone more money for software/apps. The exception being you and JRiver (via version updates). I will pay to upgrade MC every chance I get. I want you guys to have plenty of money.
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pstockton, thank you for the nice feedback. I`m glad that you are happy with the app.
All of these features, lock screen, background audio, airplay + metadata is available to any app that plays music/video, but its not automatic. It needs to be added specifically.
There has surfaced a couple of bugs since the release, the two biggest are:
- Zone name not updating correctly
- Playlist not updating after selecting certain options from the push and hold playmode menu.
+ a couple of smaller ones.
I have decided to release a small update later today that fix these bugs, pluss you get selectable streaming quality as I have already added that.
Please note that apple may use up to a week to approve the app.
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Hi Lespaul,
Will this pending update have anything to resolve my missing covers problem?
Thanks,
Bill
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lasker98, I`m having a hard time figuring out what the issue may be.
The code for getting the now playing image is identical to the one getting the image for all other thumbnails.
Are there any special configurations on your setup?
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Hi Lespaul,
I don't think I'm doing anything unique. Like I said in previous post, I also have Bitremote, My Remote and Web Gizmo, none of which have ever had any type of issues with covers. I also used to run a Squeezebox Duet off the same server with no issues either.
Here's one post I remember where other's were having similar problem, which is what led me to believe this was being corrected in the latest release:
"Re: JRemote, a new native iOS remote for JRiver Media Center
« Reply #274 on: April 21, 2012, 09:48:57 am » Quote
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Quote from: a.diabelli on January 31, 2012, 09:08:39 am
I'm experimenting a problem using JRiver in this config:•"Server 1" used as library server
•"PC 2" connect directly to the hi-fi sytem using "Server 1" as library server
Both of them are in the last stable version (17.0.068)...
I connect JRemote to PC 2 and I'm able to navigate the whole library and use the app without any problem, except in playing now where the screen doesn't show the cover art (all the other infos are displayed correctly...)
Since I've introduced the new HW configuration and the JRiver SW upgrade at the same time I don't know if it's a problem of the JRiver upgrade or a JRemote bug... Any help?
Thanks,
Marco
(Sorry for my not so good english!)
Marco - did you ever resolve this? I have the same configuration and i'm having the same issue with no cover art on the Playing Now screen (MC17.122)."
I don't know of anything else that may help.
Bill
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How big are your album arts? Perhaps the iPod has a limit to these?
I certainly notice that HUGE art, over 1MB or so, take a few seconds to pop up in Playing Now.
-Patrick
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Hi Patrick,
Thanks for your response.
I'm actually pretty anal about my artwork/covers. Every cover is resized in photoshop to 6"x6" @72 pixels/inch. I then use the "save for web and devices" mode to save the final cover as Folder.jpg This file is stored in each respective album folder with the individual cd tracks (which are all wave files). I don't recall ever seeing a final saved cover file larger than about 100kB.
I use mp3tag to embed the Folder.jpg file into each track as well before final conversion to .wav with dbpoweramp.
Like I said, I've never had any issues whatsoever with covers other than with JRemote.
Bill
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Could you try removing either the embedded or folder.jpg of an album to see if it has any effect? Maybe JRemote has a problem with both (unlikely, but trying to help).
-p
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Hi Patrick,
I deleted Folder.jpg from one album folder. I confirmed it had been deleted in MC as well, although the cover still came up in MC because it was still embedded in the individual track files. I played the same song from the album using My River and JRemote. My River still showed the cover correctly in playing now. JRemote did not. All I see in JRemote is a big musical note.
Thanks for the suggestion. It was worth a try.
Bill
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I am just trying to come up with "non-common elements" to explain the "non-common effects".
Can you think of ANYTHING else?
It is very strange that art is working on other apps. Obviously JRemote is handling album art differently.
I do know that JRemote has the best resolution of all of the apps out there, i.e. it seems JRemote either sends the full size thumb or does the least amount of downscaling. Maybe the iPod has a limit? iPhone/Pad dont seem to. But the retina displays could play into that.
Do you have access to any other iOS devices to test? I cant help but think it has something to do with the iPod. If you could test a friend's iPhone (just login to the app store on their device and download JRemote), you could isolate the issue.
Art is working perfectly (and fast) on iPhone 4G and 3rd Gen iPad here. Was at my buddy's house last night and his 4Gs and wife's iPad2 are working fine. I dont think it is the app in general. But it may be the App+iPod (of your gen).
Good luck. These little things can be frustrating. Luckily it doesn't affect the music!!!!!!!!!!!
-Patrick
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Hello again. I must agree again with the others that this app rocks. I love the new remote streaming and will most likely dump plug player. Super job on the app!
I would like to get input on my previously posted issues. I am not sure it is me or not. I have tried this on an iPhone 3g and iPad 2 and against 2 computers running JR. I have tried to remove the jremote app and reinstalled. No luck.
I can open the app and get to my server. If I choose Artist, Genre, or Composer it works ok and I can select as needed.
If I select Album, it searches for several seconds then the app closes. If I choose cancel before it crashes the app, I get a "Loading Media please wait" screen. There it sits. I can choose the Audio button to go back a menu and not crash. If I choose recent it appears to search like Album does. If I choose cancel I get my list. If I choose Highly Rated, it crashes right away.
My second bug is when doing a search, you find your song and when you hold a finger to select it, it overwrites the current playlist, no option to add to playing now, etc.
May I add another to my question list? If you search, is there a way you can tell it to show track, then album, then others that it finds? Or select the order it shows the results? Is that a JRiver option? For example, I searched for king. The list was rather long and started with artist, then artist/album, but then it got into actors, composers, etc. Way toward the bottom it finally showed me track options. For me I am searching usually for a song or artist so that would be nice to see first.
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Concerning Global access: am I missing a trick with this? I setup my connection on my LAN and used the access key. It connected fine and entered all of my correct details - ip address, port (not the jr standard but the actual one I use) and global access ip. Cool. So I turn off my wireless and try to access over 3G and no go, "could not connect to the server" message.
I know the firewall and port forwarding is correct because I use library client to this same ip and port while working remote and it works.
Thoughts?
Pete
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chirp,
delete the server and reconnect. should solve your issues
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I have deleted the server a few times because I removed the program all together on each device.
Any other options?
Pete
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try connecting via IP not access key. Use you actual IP not your local 192.168....
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I created a new server and only used my public ip. Message " found your computer but authorization failed. Make sure all values are correct". I am sure my values are correct as I use the same on library server remotely.
Pete
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Just a quick update before I head out again. I removed my I'd and password and tried external access and it worked. So I put my password back on and tried again and failed. I then decided to restart the jr server. That did it. I now have it with my original pwd and external ip.
I then tried to change it to use my inside ip, and added my public ip to the global access line. Failed.
So I guess I could make 2 entries, 1 remote and 1 internal. It seems odd.
Thanks
Pete
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I am not using my internal IP anywhere. In fact the app only works remotely without it. I have actual IP in "address" and "global" is blank.
I couldn't get it to work with local AND global.
See above on the last page.
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Hi Lespaul.
Yes, a great app. I've been following the discussions here for sometime - and agree with the comments of praise.
I have one question - would it be possible to extend the timeout period when the app connects with a pc using WOL?
It takes a little longer than the current timeout period for my pc to wake and for the app to fully connect to jriver. Hence the pc wakes, but then I get a message saying "could not connect to ...........(my server)". Then I have to "Select a media server" and it connects.
I suspect that it is timing out too soon - maybe not. But of course if would be nice for it to WOL and connect to jriver all in the one operation ;)
(this is all over wi-fi. I have not been able to get it to connect over 3G at this point).
Thanks,
Rob.
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I also found that you can stream uncompressed through the webservice ... Wav is supported already by iOS, so that should have most people covered.
This is great news!
I was already tempted to throw out everything streaming and buy another HTPC to feed my second receiver (not using it's build in DLNA and especially airplay abilities)... now I will wait ;)
Tested the new JRemote version and have to say: Great, it's getting close to perfection! Nice airplay integration!
I have already moved PlugPlayer to the folder with the other 20 useless buggy DLNA apps, guess I will delete them soon.
Somehow it's easier for me to listen to 128kbps for some time than to deal with general DLNA usability plagues :P
Like others mentioned, there are left some hiccups when changing zones and with the state of play/pause button.
With zone "This device", the track position slider is set wrong when playing VBR tracks (it may jump to the next track if a higher position is touched).
I would also like JRemote to remember the last selected zone somehow (I guess I will stay on "This device" for ever...).
Is there a chance for showing an airplay button on the right of the player bar (to select the airplay receiver from within the app)?
The next version will focus mainly on a better iPad interface.
I'm looking forward to that...
How about some "2/3 finger swipe gesture" to flip from library to playing now view and back?
Or from "library only view" to "library + playing now split view" to "playing now only view" and back?
Another wish: Moving and deleting tracks directly from within the playing now view.
Thanks for this app. Finally, my girlfriend is in the mood for using MC (well, in fact she loves using JRemote because MC is hidden... She never liked MC's complexity). And I'm having more fun exploring our library than ever before... Anyhow, JRiver should give you the WAF medal 2012 ;D
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"I am just trying to come up with "non-common elements" to explain the "non-common effects"."
Hi Patrick,
Thanks again for your response. I really can't think of anything unique to my setup. Especially in light of the fact that covers display with no issues on every other application I've been using the same files with.
I guess for now I'll just have to accept that there is something not working correctly with JRemote. I remain convinced that it's a JRemote issue.
Thanks,
Bill
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Guys, thank you for the feedback regarding connecting to external IP adresses, I have made a few changes that may resolve the issue.
Also, I tracked down the problem with lasker98`s missing cover art. I can reproduce when I use the library from another computer.
Looks like the client is then unable to provide a full sized image, and will additionally throw an error.
This is actually a bug with MC, I have provided a work-around, but image will not be the hi-res version.
I am submitting the new version later today.
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Just purchased JRemote for Ipad. My Initial comments after 10 minutes of use.
1. Is there a way to set the default player to THIS Player (i.e., the IPAD) so that I do not have to change it everytime I load the pgm? A setting for default player would be nice.
2. I seem to be unanable to play and video media on the IPAD using JRemote. Everytime I try to load a video stream, the app crashes. Is there a setting I ined to change or is the APP not set up to stream video?
3. When I tried to set up ratings vis the IPAD, it indicated that I needed to set up authentication on JRIver. Tools > Options > Advanced. It was missing the fact that it is in the MEDIA NETWORK section. minor thing you might want to fix.
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hi Lespaul
today i update to v.2
what can I say
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
thanks, great job
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Lespaul,
Did you isolate the bug with the volume slider stopping working after some zone changes?
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Is there a chance for showing an airplay button on the right of the player bar (to select the airplay receiver from within the app)?
Mmh, strange, a little while ago I used JRemote again and now it's showing the airplay button on the right when playing on "This device". It looks a little bit small compared to the rest, but it works... so forget about that :P
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Daveman:
1. I added a setting to set the device as default player in the new version.
2. Only audio is supported in this version. I`m surprised that you were able to add videos to the playlist at all, so that must be a bug.
3. Thank you, I changed the text.
nickba:
Sorry, I completely forgot about that one. I will look into it.
The new version was submitted for review two days ago, hopefully it will be approved this week.
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Lespaul,
Thanks, please take a look at zone changes stopping working too, it may be the same bug as the volume command stopping working.
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Will video be an option? To tell you the truth thaat is my primry need for the app. Adding streaming video, if only for MP4 files, would be a great addition
I have tried which. Plays vido nicely on ipad. It has a large minus sigb before fiiles it cannot play and a plus sign for those it can. MP4 streaming is fast. Take a look
All it is missing is transcoding which I can not get to worik. :(
Dave
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Nickba, zone switching is fixed in the new version. That is, the zone was switched but name did not update.
I`m not sure if this fixes the volume.
daveman, video will be supported later. If i decide to only support mp4 that will be easy.
Regarding connecting externally. I have tested this extensively and am able to connect to the global address without having to do anything special. Also tested with and without authentication.
Those that are having problems, are you using the global IP address returned by MC or are you using anything else?
I should mention that port number is not added automatically to the global address, you need to enter that yourself.
Maybe that could be the issue for some.
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lespaul - if it is easy, how about adding mp4 support sooner than later?
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I have been switching my video library over to mp4 in anticipation on where you might end up. If you were to emulate Air Video and support other video formats I suspect more sales for you and JRiver.
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I've had lots of trouble with AirVideo barfing up on converting various different file types lately (actually, for the last year or so). Of course, the last beta of the server application came out way back in November, and the last "stable" release was in September 2010.
It really doesn't like TS files from my HD-PVR anymore, which was one of the main things I used to use it for.
Anyone know if any of the competitors are seeing better development?
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Good day all,
Over the weekend I drilled a few holes and wired up my HTPC with cat5e. I then moved all physically media to the Office and imported in MC there. On the HTPC I simply load the "Office Library". Everything is working.
Despite a few crashes and what sounded like a Boeing jet landing in my office (PC usage @ 100% for some reason), even video is now working. Streaming 720p without issue.
It is nice and quiet in the main listening room now with my super quiet ASRock with SSD. (FYI, the computer boots twice as fast at 24 seconds WITHOUT 2 spinning external drives attached).
But I am now plagued with Lasker's problem. When controlling the HTPC (with office library loaded), thumbs work both in Artist/Album views as well as the metadata screen view. But the main screen wont show art.
When i am streaming to the device (directly from the Office server) all art is fine.
LesPaul, you said this is a big within MC. Is there any way you could articulate this specific problem to the higher-ups within MC? i would love full-rez art when controlling at home.
FYI, I have not bee able to isolate the problem entirely, but I have had a few total epic crashes of MC since I moved my physical drives. You know, music starts skipping then program crashes. Both times it happened when I opened JRemote, while music was already playing, and hit a button before the iPhone had fully reconnected to the Server. Once it was "Next" and once it was the "Metadata" button.
Thanks again LesPaul! Using your app for hours everyday. So good.
Patrick
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Thanks for the quick update LesPaul
I have been streaming 320 to my iPhone for the last few hours over 3G without a single drop. Plugplayer NEVER could achieve this. So good.
Zone labels are fixed, thanks!
Album art when playing from a sharing library is fixed. I didn't yet notice the lower rez of your "work-around", but that only applies to using it as a remote at home (for me).
I have one request (yes they seem to never stop... sorry), would it be possible to move the "Default to This Device" zone setting into each server rather than globally? The default zone for most users seems like it it might be dependent on which server they are using.
For example, my "Office PC" server is on 24/7 and will be used for streaming to the device. My HTPC server will only be used as a remote.
If you cant move the setting, can we maybe delete zones from servers? (unlikely)
Or maybe we could set a default zone within each server? (would make your new "play to Device" toggle obsolete)
You might already be working on this. I just though I would mention what I found using it today.
Teeny tiny bugs:
1) It seems like the "This device" zone still autostarts when entering the zone. For example, Play and album to "this device", press stop, go to another zone. Upon re-entering "this Device" music will auto re-start.
2) Now playing on "This device" seems to be linked across servers. Which is strange. If I load Office server and play to "this device", then load another server, when I go into "this device" the Office music started playing.
Maybe #2 is only possible because all music is in office and I load my library on the HTPC.
Thanks again for such a killer app.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Lespaul -
I got the new update. Looks good, though I haven't been able to re-test it switching from 3G to WiFi and back yet. I'll let you know what I find.
The new Play to this Device by default setting seems to work very well, and that will solve my problem for my Wife and my iPhone. However, on my iPad I'd really prefer to have each server remember its own last used zone (that or for the default setting to be per-server, it doesn't matter which one really). If you'd intended to add that, it doesn't seem to have worked. So, if I switch from the default zone to "Play on this Device" and then play some stuff, it works fine. But if the application exits (by being forced by me or by iOS), then it reverts back to the default zone.
Since I use my iPad as both a controller and as a "receiver" (but as I explained above, each server usually has one "primary" purpose), it would be very convenient for it to just remember whatever zone I used last.
For everything else though... This is looking great. In fact, I think the best comment I can make is this one:
Before:
(http://glynor.com/img/screenshots/JRemote_Promoted_Before-iPad-small.jpg)
Click to embiggen. (http://glynor.com/img/screenshots/JRemote_Promoted_Before-iPad.jpg)
After:
(http://glynor.com/img/screenshots/JRemote_Promoted_After-iPad-small.jpg)
Click to embiggen. (http://glynor.com/img/screenshots/JRemote_Promoted_After-iPad.jpg)
(And let me tell ya, it isn't easy to get in that always-present dock row. It isn't even easy to get on my home screen, much less the dock row.)
But, for good measure, I'll throw a review on iTunes too. ;)
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Superb app, getting better and better.
One major issue though, and it has been around from day one. Searching leads to an eternal pause with no results and audio/all files sits on a loading screen for a while and then crashes as well. I have a large audio library. Everything else works great. Was hoping the latest version would fix it, but nope...
I tried on a iPad 3 with 64 gb, on a iPhone 4 16gb and iPhone 3GS 8gb suspect it is a memory issue, or the app gets out of synch while trying to make sense out of this large amount of data.
It sucks not being able to search for a song. Still, this app deserves best of breed accolades.
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Latest version is fantastic, thanks!
Now Playing does not seem to respect the "Light" Interface Color setting.
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I installed the new update today. The cover art now seems to be showing correctly.
When I do a search for a song title, using "Search" button at bottom, I've found if there are multiple results with same song title, there is no way to drill down further to select the specific track I want to hear. Clicking the track name in this situation adds all the tracks with the same name to the playlist and starts playing the first one. Is there any way to drill down into the track results one more level to allow selecting the individual tracks by artist or album or both?
Thanks,
Bill
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One major issue though, and it has been around from day one. Searching leads to an eternal pause with no results and audio/all files sits on a loading screen for a while and then crashes as well. I have a large audio library. Everything else works great. Was hoping the latest version would fix it, but nope...
I hadn't actually tested the searching.... Ever, I don't think. I did today, since I saw your post. I tested from both my iPhone 4, my wife's 4S, and my iPad 3. It didn't crash on any of them.
However, the search results it returned were basically useless. When I searched for a specific song title I know I had in my library, the results were all cluttered up with results of movies pulled from the movie metadata. Simple word-searches effectively returned every single video file (with tags) in my Library, since they all have lots of descriptions and actor names and stuff like that. I was looking for a song.
So... The searching certainly needs some work. You need some way to filter the results. If you're searching for a Movie, you need to be able to search only your movies (or songs or whatever). And if you are searching for a phrase, it should "prioritize" exact matches of that phrase above other results.
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It sucks not being able to search for a song. Still, this app deserves best of breed accolades.
Searching has always seemed to work well for me.
Whether it be an artist album or song name, I get returned results that you would expect.
For example. Search "John Zorn"
I get an ARTIST header with selections below such as "John Zorn - Naked City", "John Zorn", "John Zorn's Masada". I get an ALBUM ARTIST heading with similar. Then ALBUMS, COMPOSER, COMMENTS and lastly TRACKS.
For TRACKS, it only showed tracks with "John Zorn" in the track title, e.g. "John Zorn's Radio Hour" NOT all tracks by John Zorn. I think it works very well.
Although I dont use it very often... I will use it a bunch tonight and see if I experience any strange behavior.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Searching has always seemed to work well for me.
Do you have a bunch of tagged Video files in your library?
I need to test more, I only did a handful of searches, and maybe I was doing something wrong. But it did seem useless for "normal use" to me with my Library.
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Perhaps the search crash has t do with library size? I have a lot of music. About 300 gb. Also not super audiophile quality, so the number of songs is really high.
Are there any other aspects, hard or software, to consider?
Currently, all I can do is create play lists on the pc. Or search through 5500 albums alphabetically. I would love to be able to browse through individual files, or search to find songs. It is always when I am trying to impress a friend with the coolness of the system that i get the question: do you have this or that song... - and then it crashes....
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300gb is nothing. JRemote can handle that even if small bitrate MP3s.
-Patrick
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Do you have a bunch of tagged Video files in your library?
I need to test more, I only did a handful of searches, and maybe I was doing something wrong. But it did seem useless for "normal use" to me with my Library.
A bunch? Not really. I have about 150 or so movies/shows/concerts.
If you are searching for videos I might see the issue as it brings up just about every possible tag. But when searching for music the video tag are at the bottom so I never see them. I get artist first then albums then track, then composer, etc... then vids.
-patrick
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Hmm. So, what could possibly be causing this very persistent bug. I can not open the all audio files folder, it sits on loading and then crashes. I can not get any search result to show. I forgot to say that I have a 2 Tb limited movie collection as well. Trying to stream any video to the 'this device' zone crashes the app as well.
Where can I start trouble shooting?
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Trying to stream any video to the 'this device' zone crashes the app as well.
Streaming video is not supported yet.
It might work if the file in question is already in an iOS friendly format. I don't know, I haven't tried it. This is something the developer plans to work on, but it would be nice if MC would handle the on-the-fly conversion internally. As it is, the JRemote folks would have to write a Windows application/plugin for MC to do the transcoding.
Streaming support with on-the-fly transcoding would be handy for Gizmo too, so I suspect it is possible they'll work on this for MC18. Jim seemed to indicate that mobile support will be a focus for the next year (in addition to a possible OSX version, which is very exciting).
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I can not open the all audio files folder, it sits on loading and then crashes. I can not get any search result to show.
My guess is that something is odd with your Media Network view.
What do you have set up as far as custom views under Options > Media Network > Advanced?
That, or a bad tag in some particular files.
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It might work if the file in question is already in an iOS friendly format.
I tried, it does not work. I hope the developer supports ISO friendly video as a first step. This will allow us to validate the idea with no effort from JRiver. And there is tons of mp4 available and tools to rip it so availability is not an issue.
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I would love to be able to shuffle from now playing screen.
Often want to play 5 or 6 specific albums and play them shuffled. No way
to do that now.
MediaCenter has shuffle remaining but easiest way I can see for JRemote is
to just put a shuffle button in playing now.
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Just in case someone else has this issue I was having: uninstall and reinstall JRmC 17 and delete 16, including media server I think remnants of 16 or a bad install caused the issue. I deleted 16 entirely and then reinstalled 17 and now the files populate appropriately. Thanks to those who were thinking along. Glynor, your suggestion is what ultimately tipped me off on a difference between 16 and 17 in terms of tags and got me thinking the right way :-)
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LesPaul,
For some unknown reason I am getting a fair amount of crashes now and "stream to device" stoppage. My good friend who is using JRemote even more than I am is experiencing the same behaviors.
The crashes happen randomly but are always initiated immediately after tapping a button on the screen. The app does not seem to crash otherwise. The bummer with this crashing is that the "play to this device" playlist is deleted when this happens. Obviously the fact that the playlist only resides on the iOS device is the reason for this. But when putting together a playlist and the app crashes, it can get a little frustrating.
The playback stoppage also seems to happen randomly. But it only seems to happen when the app is closed (but still running in the dock of course). This mostly seems to occur when playing to a standard Zone, but does happen when playing "to this device". It also seems to happen between songs. When it happens mid-song, the app is usually still running and only requires a "play" or "next" command to resume. But when it happens between tracks it seems like the app needs to reconnect to the server.
It almost seems like the app has a tough time if it loses connection to the server for a second. It either stops playback or disconnects entirely. At least in these cases it seems to keep the playlist intact.
Still loving the app of course. Just trying to help.
Thanks!
Patrick
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weird as usual the connection no longer worked after updating both MC and jremote but after manually adding the server I'm no longer allowed to make a connection.
i get the error
error
Could not connect to your computer make sure your computer is connected to a network
and after retrying
error
Found your computer but authentication failed. Make sure all values are correct
i changed the pasword to "1" for both field for simplicity of testing but nothing changes
don't get what is wrong it makes no sense
this is using my local ip address "192.168.1.XXX"
port is correct just tried it again with access key and that works just the ip address wont.
i double checked the ip address in the DHCP Clients List and it is still listed as the correct address (it has worked before)
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I also am still having the same crashes when I choose the Audio/Album option. The screen changes then blanks out and ends my session of jremote. I can restart it and choose playlist or Audio/Artist and no issue.
I read the above fix used by Visth. I loaded MC17 on a computer that did not have MC on it. I told it first to only load some local files on it's hard drive into the library. I could use Albums, no issue. I then imported more files from my shared/mapped drive but only 1-2 folders. Albums came up ok on JRemote. So I imported all of my files from the shared drive. Once it finished (26,400 files) I tried Albums again and it crashed.
I also use a Smartlist and that crashes as well. This is on my regular computer that I have been using, not the previously mentioned test one. My smartlist is setup as this:
[Media Type]=[Audio] [Last Played]=>24w -[Genre]=[AudioBook],[Cartoons],[Children],[Children'S],[Children's Music],[Christmas],[genre],[Good Question Music],[h],[Podcast],[Unknown],[],[Book],[Comedy],[Comedy//Spoken Word],[Home Recordings],[Instructional],[Sound Effects],[Pete'sBand] ~n=100.
So it should return 100 random not played in 6 months songs. When i choose this in JRemote it starts then crashes. no results shown.
Oddly enough in either of the above scenarios, I can choose my selection and once the next screen comes open that it is looking, I can choose cancel and get some sort of a list.
Does that help?
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I also have another issue so thought I would separate my post. I was working good using my regular machine as far as getting access to it from the outside, streaming to my iPhone on 3G, etc. (some small issues, not enough to worry about). The only way I could get it to work this way was to enter the ipaddress in and the port, but my ip is the public address, not my home ip address. I know there is an option to use the Access key internally, have it find the server on the internal network and then enter the outside ip in the Global Address area. However, that never worked for me. (So I guess that is one issue). This entry in JRemote is called Kitchen
My issue is when I added my 2nd server to the list in JRemote last night, to test on a new computer, it lost all of my Kitchen settings. on my new test computer, called Video, i used a newly generated key, and used the ip (which is different than Kitchen of course). I then had 2 entries but both said Video! Both were set to the video server too. I don't remember what was different about the 2, sorry. I ended up deleting 1.
So i am at work now and am adding the Kitchen server back in. I enter my dns name and port and credentials. It fails saying the credentials are incorrect. I remove the credentials on the server side and save, and then I can get in. I add my credentials back in on the server side and I can still get in. However, I now have 2 identical entries on my phone, and my previous “video” one is gone!
Any thoughts?
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Chirrp,
Were you attempting to rename more than one server? When I renamed a server, if I renamed a second it would delete the first and show two identical servers.
-patrick
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Chirrp,
Were you attempting to rename more than one server? When I renamed a server, if I renamed a second it would delete the first and show two identical servers.
-patrick
Hey Patrick!
No I was adding a new one, different ip and config all together.
Thanks!
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Chirrp,
What I mean was.
Connect to a Server.
Change the default "name" the server announces.
Connect to a 2nd server
Change its default "name" the server announces.
When I do the above, Server #1 will rename itself as whatever I called #2 and change its settings to match. Effectively #2 is duplicated.
I could only manage to rename one server. If I renamed only one or none everything was fine.
I asked because you were experiencing the same behavior. Apparently with a different stimulus though.
-Patrick
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Interesting. I previously had done that. My "kitchen" device is actually seen as t400. So I renamed it a while ago. Then when I recently added "video" I should have gotten "kitchen" and " video, but got 2 " video" names instead.
Now I ran through the scenario again without renaming t400 to kitchen, and adding a second server still duplicates my settings.
Does that make sense?
Thanks!
Pete
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Hi Guys, sorry for the absence.
Just want to give an update on the progress of the next version.
The new interface for the iPad is almost done. I think those that are using JRemote on a iPad will be very happy with this next version.
Here are some of the main highlights:
- All controls and options are now available in a new left bar and bottom bar.
- JRemote will use all menu options defined in MC, even custom root items. This means you can more easily customize the appearance and order of the menu in MC.
- Navigation now includes sub-navigation after selecting a main item. For example when you click audio, the navigation bar will switch to show 1. level items like "artist", "album" etc.
- Bottom bar includes all play controls as well as cover art, current track, volume, progress bar, zone switching and playlist.
The new interface has been designed to use as little screen space as possible. For example, the playlist and progress bar is accessed by dragging out a specific area of the bar.
After finishing up the design, I will work on the bugs you guys have reported so far.
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chirpp, what you are describing is a bug, I just fixed it now.
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Great! Are you referring to the crash when opening albums issue? Or the multiple media server issue?
I'd prefer the first fix first but will take whatever you provide.
Thanks again!
Pete
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Thanks LesPaul! I look forward to the update. You dont need to apologize for anything. Your attention and development have been stellar.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Thanks again for this nice app. Since you are polishing the iPad app interface I thought it was time to give some input again. Some of the things below I may have suggested earlier.
The header of the file list
I think you should always use [Album artist (auto)] in the header of the file list. As it is now the track artist(s) for the first track is shown in the header for VA albums instead of (Multiple artists) or Various or something like that.
Could also the bitrate be shown in the header of the file list?
I think "15 tracks" would look better than "15 Tracks" as it is now in the header of the file list.
Is it possible to use [Date] instead of [Year] in the header of the file list?
If a level is skipped, the thumbnail in the header of the file list still shows the thumbnail from the originating level, not the thumbnail for the actual level. If an artist only has one album the album level is skipped (fine) and the file list is immediately shown, but the thumbnail in the header of the file list is still the artist art, not the album art for the album.
If the file list is empty, the No media info has a trailing comma, i.e. "No media,".
The file list
Would it be possible to display also track # in the file list when small thumbnails view is selected? I have added singles cover art to VA albums and compilations and for some of them, like the Rolling Stone Magazine Top 500 Songs mock album I have made, the track # information is quite essential.
Would it be possible to display multiple artists like this Artist1, Artist2 & Artist3 instead of Artist1; Artist2; Artist3?
If [Disc #] is not empty, would it be possible to show [Disc #]-[Track #]?
In file list showing multiple albums, it would be really useful to have the album year shown as well, i.e. [Album] ([Year]) - [Artist].
I think the file list shown as thumbnails should show also [Artist]. As I said I have added singles cover art to the tracks in VA albums and if I look at the covers as thumbnails I can only see the song title, not the artist. I would not mind a two line display of text under the thumbnails.
Metadata
Did you not some time ago say that all MC fields would be available in the metadata list? I cannot see my custom fields for instance.
If there are multiple items in a list in one field, searching by that field yields no result. I think searching always should be done on the first item in the list.
I think the "Released" metadata field should display the full date, not just the year.
A search returns also images (I have imported the artist art folder into MC), but when I select the image JRemote crashes.
The album header in the search results should show also album year, i.e. [Album] ([Year]). Since there seems to be enough space, would it not be possible to show also the [Album artist (auto)] for the album?
Would it be possible to have a metadata option in the search results view? That way I could really surf my collection.
Now playing view
In the header of the now playing list, showing the current track, show also [Date], i.e. [Album] ([Date]), and bitrate.
In the playlist, it would be useful to have the album year shown as well, i.e. [Album] ([Year]) - [Artist].
Having an option to show small thumbnails in the playlist would be nice.
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Playback on my 1st generation iPad (only wifi) is not working (I am taken to the now playing view and the playlist is there, but no sound and the play controls do nothing and duration for the "playing" track is 0:00). Is there anything special I must set in MC? I have tried the various convert options and all bitrate modes in JRemote.
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I think "15 tracks" would look better than "15 Tracks" as it is now in the header of the file list.
Is it possible to use [Date] instead of [Year] in the header of the file list?
Vagskal.... I personally do not want much of what you propose. You've gotta remember that your suggestions affect everyone and the app shouldn't be tailored exclusively to your style of browsing.
For example, many of us dont use the DATE tag.
From a style point of view, why would you want "Tracks" not capitalized. Lower case looks far less polished to me.
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For example, many of us dont use the DATE tag.
The [Year] and [Date] fields are connected in MC. If you enter a year in the [Year] field that data will fill also the [Date] field, and if you enter a full date in the [Date] field the [Year] field will be filled with the year part of that date. Using [Date] instead of [Year] would therefore not affect those using only the [Year] field, but would benefit those who have entered a full date in the [Date] field and would like to see that.
From a style point of view, why would you want "Tracks" not capitalized. Lower case looks far less polished to me.
For consistency only. The file format info (flac, mp3) in the header is not capitalized.
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The header of the file list
If multiple albums are shown in the file list, "Various" is shown in the header of the file list even when the [Artist] (and [Album artist (auto)]) is the same for all tracks in the file list.
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JRemote on an Ipad gives me a lot joy and convenience to use.
But, I really hope that Metadata can show all the customed Library field. I've added a new Library Field, Opus number, for classical music. For example, I wish that I can click on the Opus shown in the Metadata to list all my Beethoven Symphony No.5, which is Op.67.
Another similar-functioning app, MyRemote, is capable to show the customed field in the Metadata.
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Just downloaded this and love it, but ... but ... it keeps dropping me, saying it's lost connection to my server and asking me to manually reconnect. My iPad hasn't lost connection to the router, and neither has my HTPC.
What's going wrong?
EDIT: perhaps a wireless adapter issue. Hard to tell, since I get dropped even when the connection on the HTPC stays in place. It's been better ever since I moved the adapter out of the corner of the room.
ANOTHER question: in playing now mode 24/96 files are showing as 44100Hz. Is there a fix for this?
Third query: in the list views artists are sorted by first name, where I have MC configured to sort in Theater View by last name. How can adjust this?
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Nice feedback guys.
Vagskal, i appreciate your detailed suggestions. I will add at least some of them.
I will also make sure that all metadata tags are displayed in the next release.
I am on vacation at the moment, will be back in a week.
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Nice feedback guys.
Vagskal, i appreciate your detailed suggestions. I will add at least some of them.
I will also make sure that all metadata tags are displayed in the next release.
I am on vacation at the moment, will be back in a week.
Hello Lespaul,
Great work!!
As I work directly with automation with A/V integration, I showed your app to some customers and the most wanted features are:
1- Ability to link and unlink zones from Ipad or Iphone/Ipod. This feature is what makes most people choose another solution instead of JRiver MC/JRemote. I think MC doesn't have the commands to link/unlink zones directly, but you could integrate that with EventGhost. It could increase your sales and sales of MC a lot, because this could turn these products on REAL multi-zone solution without the need to access the computer!
As an example: Some customers have one zone for each room and they want to link/unlink some or all zones for a party. If using MC, they would need to access the computer to link/unlink zones. They don´t want to access the computer to do that, they want link/unlink zones using their iOS devices.
2- Lyrics: The customers want lyrics. I think this would be easy to implement.
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Issues I have noticed using this great app
1. Recent includes both audio and video files. Please filter out any video files.
2. When playing audio files on. Playlist, the album cover does not always get updated (although meta data does update).
3. While I understand that this app does not play video files, if u choose one, the app shuts down. Why not just filter it out until video works?
Dave
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2- Lyrics: The customers want lyrics. I think this would be easy to implement.
Suggestions??? Easy maybe. Expensive yes. Budget friendly AND legal, doubt it.
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Hello Lespaul,
Great work!!
As I work directly with automation with A/V integration, I showed your app to some customers and the most wanted features are:
1- Ability to link and unlink zones from Ipad or Iphone/Ipod. This feature is what makes most people choose another solution instead of JRiver MC/JRemote. I think MC doesn't have the commands to link/unlink zones directly, but you could integrate that with EventGhost. It could increase your sales and sales of MC a lot, because this could turn these products on REAL multi-zone solution without the need to access the computer!
As an example: Some customers have one zone for each room and they want to link/unlink some or all zones for a party. If using MC, they would need to access the computer to link/unlink zones. They don´t want to access the computer to do that, they want link/unlink zones using their iOS devices.
2- Lyrics: The customers want lyrics. I think this would be easy to implement.
Be sure that your customers understand that "linked zones" in MC are not perfectly synchronized. How I wish they were though. I guess if there is no bleed between the zones it may not matter. When I want linked zones (in sync) I use my Squeezeboxes. Sonos devices can do it too.
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Be sure that your customers understand that "linked zones" in MC are not perfectly synchronized. How I wish they were though. I guess if there is no bleed between the zones it may not matter. When I want linked zones (in sync) I use my Squeezeboxes. Sonos devices can do it too.
All tests I made with linked zones in MC using multi outputs sound cards worked perfectly. Perfect sync.
I think zones are not synchronized correctly when diffrent devices are used for some zones...
pcstockton, regarding the lyrics, there are a lot of lyrics sites. just parse one and you are done.
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pcstockton, regarding the lyrics, there are a lot of lyrics sites. just parse one and you are done.
Can you name a few that are both legal and free?
-patrick
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Can you name a few that are both legal and free?
-patrick
As I know Lyrics sites considered ilegal only in USA if they where using advertisement for profit purposes. But apps like SoundHound search lyrics and even videos on Youtube and parse them. That's it.
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As I know Lyrics sites considered ilegal only in USA if they where using advertisement for profit purposes. But apps like SoundHound search lyrics and even videos on Youtube and parse them. That's it.
This doesn't matter. JRemote wouldn't be collecting or distributing the lyrics, only displaying a text string from the file tags in MC, just like the default iOS Music App does.
Or did you mean for JRemote to collect the lyrics for you separately from what MC has in the database? This seems like a weird thing for a music streamer/remote control app to do. It would be better done on the server-side, I think.
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Hi, I am really enjoying using jremote heaps but seem to be having a little trouble connecting to my server each day.
Initially I setup the access key and login and it connected fine but each day when I try and reconnect it fails.
Im not sure if its because my ip address is changing but when I try to connect it says cannot connect to server then when I delete the server and add the server again with the exact same key and login details it works every time.
Its a small issue but hopefully it can be resolved, maybe an auto re-add server option?
Cheers :)
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I've been using JRemote for Quite some time. Worked just fine on my iPod Touch 3G, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4S. Combined with the JRiver Media Server activated, its a good choice to be combined with third Party Blu-ray Player Software, as you can even close the Media Center and open it up again by simply tapping the Home button in the Remote Section of this App. That renders my HTPCs Keyboard useless - yay! Great work!
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Lespaul, any chance you can add the ipod's eq presets to the app? :)
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It seems streaming should work via the settings/options in the menu. Is it actually up and running yet? Won't work for me.
I can get MyRiver to stream (I have both)but I prefer to use JRemote as I like the interface better.
Also, if you go to "Remote" tab within the menus it acts like it will eventually be a virtual touchscreen interface for
JRiver like you'd see it on the PC--is this a future feature? Nothing works on that screen for me for now...
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It seems streaming should work via the settings/options in the menu. Is it actually up and running yet?
Works fine here. I use it every day.
Sounds like something in your setup is messed up. My guess? Your firewall (perhaps the built-in Windows one) is blocking stuff.
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LesPaul,
JRemote got a very positive mention in a mini-review of JRiver Media Center:
http://thedigitallifestyle.com/w/index.php/2012/07/24/mini-review-j-river-media-center-also-how-to-use-it-as-an-audio-output-for-windows-media-center-and-others/
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JimH,
You should work together with Lespaul to be able to handle zones linking/unlink. As I work with custom A/V installations, the only problem to use JRiver today as a multi zone solution is the zone linking as it cannot be done from mobile devices and the other software solution can do it. I think there is a good market for JRiver/JRemote as a multi-zone solution.
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Questions for the heavy users:
These questions only apply to streaming to the device, NOT as a Remote. As a Remote this app works smashingly. ZERO problems.
- Is anyone else experiencing a significant amount of crashes?
- How about playback stopping mid-song (not a crash per se, but pressing play a few times is required to restart)?
- When you use the Airplay button and send audio to an AE are you getting the above stoppage (i cant get through a single song)?
The crashes are the worst issue because you lose your current playlist.
It seems to work better when the app is running and the screen is on. Also it doesn't seem to matter what resolution I am playing.
Just a note: I have a nice highest-end Netgear Gigabit router, my internet connection is fairly quick (~2.5 MB/sec down and ~600KB/sec up).
Just wondering if anyone is using different settings than I am or what I might try. Does this have anything to do with the AVtransportNext thing??? Sorry for my ignorance here.
Thanks!
Patrick
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How do I stream to my iPad from 17?
I cannot find the info on the JRemote website or here.
Probably somewhere here, but have not found
thanks for your help
Great App.
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- Is anyone else experiencing a significant amount of crashes?
I'd say a medium amount. Not every day, but more than many other iOS apps I use regularly.
- How about playback stopping mid-song (not a crash per se, but pressing play a few times is required to restart)?
- When you use the Airplay button and send audio to an AE are you getting the above stoppage (i cant get through a single song)?
Not often, though I have seen the "stuck" state as well. It seemed worse with earlier versions. The current one has been working well here. Though, it does seem to be more "touchy" when I'm streaming to the device remotely (away from home) rather than at home on my local network.
It seems to work better when the app is running and the screen is on. Also it doesn't seem to matter what resolution I am playing.
I haven't seen issues when the app is "in the front" but the device is locked. However, I do agree that it is more troublesome when I "background" it. This is almost certainly iOS memory limits. The way iOS works when an app is in the background is basically "best effort, but we'll kill you if we have to". I think the devices are just hitting memory limits.
This is reinforced by my experience using it on my iPhone 4, my wife's 4S, and my iPad 3. Definitely more crashy and troublesome on my iPhone 4 than the other two devices. I can easily "kill" it on my iPhone 4 by opening Navigon, for example. But Navigon is huge and barely fits in the available RAM on my older iPhone as-is. Opening Navigon also kills the built-in iOS music app sometimes, and regularly kills Safari (so that pages have to reload). It just sucks up every bit of RAM available.
If you are using a 3GS and you're having trouble, I'd guess it is available RAM. The 3GS is pretty limited.
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Thanks for chiming in Glynor. I think we are experiencing the same things at the same rate. I dont intend to make it sound extreme.
Regarding crashes.... I honestly rarely get crashes on other apps on my iPhone 4 although I do use a very limited amount of apps compared to some. I am a heavy user and Scrabble is really the only app that crashes back to the home screen about once a month. This app seems to crash more than most, but ONLY when streaming to the device remotely. It isn't a big deal really I was just curious if I was alone. The only reason it is even a slight problem is when you create a decent sized playlist and it gets wiped out. Maybe there is a way for these Playing Now queues to be "saved" as they are created and could persist after a crash???
The "stuck" state happens more often than the crashes. Not a big deal. Most of the time it happens while driving and moving through networks I guess? I never lose cell service though. This is all "in the city" in Portland, OR. No service issues here. And we know if happens when moving from one wifi to another or losing wifi. I leave my Wifi off most of the time now to avoid this.
Regarding memory, if you are only running JRemote and close everything else down, is there anything else one can do to free up memory? How much should JRemote be using? The cache or buffer or whatever cant be that large can it? A whole album of 320 is only 100MB or so.
I only have a 4 right now for phones and an iPad3. I havent used the iPad much for streaming. I typically use it as a remote when listening through the main system. I'll try the iPad at work tomorrow and see how it gets along.
Thanks again G!
-Patrick
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Regarding memory, if you are only running JRemote and close everything else down, is there anything else one can do to free up memory? How much should JRemote be using? The cache or buffer or whatever cant be that large can it? A whole album of 320 is only 100MB or so.
iOS manages memory completely by itself. The only things you can do are: keep it in the foreground when possible and don't run other "background capable" apps at the same time. The application in the foreground always has preferential treatment for memory.
Closing down background apps manually is a waste of time (http://speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html) (in most cases). It can be, occasionally, a useful hack to "reset" misbehaving apps. For example, GPS apps (when run in the background) seem to be a common "criminal". But even then, they aren't able to impact the performance of the foreground app for long. Mostly, restarting an app is used to fix an issue within that application (Facebook stops updating right, or borks up the photos like it always does). Other than that kind of stuff, doing it manually is voodoo.
From Fraser Speirs's aforelinked article:
Let me be as clear as I can be: the iOS multitasking bar does not contain "a list of all running apps". It contains "a list of recently used apps". The user never has to manage background tasks on iOS.
Except in a few cases, which I'll explain, the apps that appear in the multitasking bar are not currently running. When you press the home button, iOS will tell the app to quit. In almost all cases, it quits, it stops using CPU time (and hence battery) and the memory it was using is eventually recovered if required.
He goes on to explain precisely why this is the case, and how it is enforced by the OS (TLDR: it gives the apps almost no choices, and very little time to react). And, if you're still curious, he did this nice follow-up demonstration video showing (http://speirs.org/blog/2012/1/6/ios-multitasking-in-detail.html) the effects in action.
Background audio apps, in particular, are essentially forced to use the system framework to play their audio, and they are very limited in what they can do while in the background (especially once the audio stops playing, for any reason). From the iOS Programming Guide (http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#DOCUMENTATION/iPhone/Conceptual/iPhoneOSProgrammingGuide/ManagingYourApplicationsFlow/ManagingYourApplicationsFlow.html):
When the UIBackgroundModes key contains the audio value, the system’s media frameworks automatically prevent the corresponding app from being suspended when it moves to the background. As long as it is playing audio or video content, the app continues to run in the background. However, if the app stops playing the audio or video, the system suspends it.
You can use any of the system audio frameworks to initiate the playback of background audio, and the process for using those frameworks is unchanged. (For video playback over AirPlay, you must use the Media Player framework to present your video.) Because your app is not suspended while playing media files, callbacks operate normally while your app is in the background. In your callbacks, though, you should do only the work necessary to provide data for playback. For example, a streaming audio app would need to download the music stream data from its server and push the current audio samples out for playback. You should not perform any extraneous tasks that are unrelated to playback.
PS. I should add, I'm only guessing that issues are more common when it is backgrounded because it "seems" that way to me. I haven't ever been bothered enough to test it methodically. It is maybe a bit buggier than some other apps I use (though far less buggy than many games), but most of them have simply been around longer and haven't been changing as radically. I don't consider it to be one of my "problem apps" in any way.
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Hi guys, thanks for the problem regarding crashes when streaming.
These kind of problems are quite hard to track down since they tend to happen randomly, but you have given me some clues as to what may cause the crash.
As glynor has mentioned, iOS manage all memory and application states. When you are running a foreground app that requires more memory than currently available, iOS will send a message to all the background apps requesting that they free as much memory as they can.JRemote will in this case clear all cover art images from its cache. If this is not enough, iOS will start to shut down apps.
The cover art is what takes the most memory. Streaming music should not be an issue.
I can’t promise a fix for this in the next release. But I will start to investigate.
Lyrics
Regarding lyrics, as metioned there are legal problems with this. Most lyrics sites on the net are illegal since they don’t pay royalties to the record companies. Because of this they are usually taken down eventually. Legal sites are crazy expensive if you want to use their API.
I would just like to mention that if you add the lyrics yourself to the metadata in MC, JRemote will display them in a separate tab in the metadata view.
I will investigate this issue further in an upcoming version.
The next version
The next version is about ready to ship, I am hoping to submit it for review early next week.
In this version there is much to look forward to for iPad users, but iPhone users may be disappointed as there are no real news for them. The iPhone version will get more attention soon.
I have added basic streaming support for mp4 video files. You can play a video by clicking on a video track, but adding them as part of a playlist is not supported in this release.
I have attached a small teaser for the new iPad interface.
(http://)
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Robert,
You probably are working on this issue, but it is a show stopper.
Search command.
Ok in searching but the results are hard to understand.
Example
I have a fairly large library (100k or so).
Several versions of “crazy”
When I search on crazy it gives me all of them plus anything that has crazy in the name.
How can I tell which crazy is done by which artist?
Then how do I tell JRemote that I want to play it “next” or at end of “current playlist” or “replace playlist and play this song”.
Needs ability to understand what I am selecting.
Maybe there is a way, I just don’t see it.
Thanks for a really good product.
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Hi TXgary,
The search is limited by by MC`s webservice.
While their fuzzy search engine is quite amazing, the data you can get from the webservice is limited.
There is no possible way to get cover art or even get the artist or album for a track. You get the track name, and that's it.
I am hoping that JRiver will improve the search capabilities in upcoming versions.
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Is there an ability "once I click on it" to get more info prior to selecting as "next to play", "add to playlist" or "replace playlist"?
Perhaps drill down?
This is a definite requirement and would hope MC people can help in this problem.
Again, thanks for the nice product.
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I have attached a small teaser for the new iPad interface.
Ooooh! Me likey. Me likey a LOT.
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The search is limited by by MC`s webservice.
While their fuzzy search engine is quite amazing, the data you can get from the webservice is limited.
There is no possible way to get cover art or even get the artist or album for a track. You get the track name, and that's it.
I am hoping that JRiver will improve the search capabilities in upcoming versions.
I suspected this was the case, but thanks for confirming.
I too hope they improve this in the API. I'm sure they'll listen to you on this, so thanks for commenting.
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Thanks LesPaul! I look forward to the update. Looks sexy.
Also thanks for addressing, or just even thinking about, the memory/crash issue. You are an exceptional developer.
One thought, would it be possible to create a view without any art or thumbnail caching? Maybe some kind of "Remote" view for streaming off network? I would certainly forgo art for a more stable experience when remotely streaming.
Thanks again.
Cheers!
Patrick
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Les, is there anyway to default to the last zone on startup? I always have to select my zone everytime I start JRemote initally. It defaults to my Ipad when I want my PWD DAC.
Thx
Tony
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I second the default startup zone issue
Dave
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Les, is there anyway to default to the last zone on startup? I always have to select my zone everytime I start JRemote initally. It defaults to my Ipad when I want my PWD DAC.
Third. (I asked for this once before way earlier in this thread. I think you said you planned to add it, but it hasn't happened yet.)
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Ok guys, I will add the default zone per server option in this release, starting right now.
pcstockton, you could set default view to "list" if you do not want to see any cover art.
There really are no specific optimisations right now for when you connect remotely, except for longer timeouts on connections.
This is something that I will look at in a later release.
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Ok guys, I will add the default zone per server option in this release, starting right now.
Woohoo!! Thanks!
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Ok guys, I will add the default zone per server option in this release, starting right now.
Ha ha! Thanks!
If you want to keep the UI simple, I think something like this would work perfectly for me:
Each server has a Play on device as default setting (rather than the current global setting).
Otherwise (if the above isn't enabled for that server), the server tries to re-use the same Zone it used last time on that server.
If the previously used Zone isn't available, then it does what it does now and defaults to Zone 0.
Then, each server "setup" would only need that one simple switch, and it would just "auto-remember" whatever you used last time. That "feels right" to me. But if it is easier to make it just an explicit choice per-server, then it is fine with me, as long as one of the choices is "On this Device".
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Lespaul,
Please try to fix the bug when streaming to device, sometimes the play button doesn't change to pause state, causing confusion.
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Wow guys, I have jremote on my iPhone and believed it was the best, but yesterday I got a new iPad and the first app I installed was jremote, WOW, the interface is, the best I've seen! Bye bye music app, welcome jremote!!!!
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I discovered some funny behaviour...
All files that are played in zone "This device" also show up in MC under "Playlists > Recently Imported".
They show up some seconds after playback started, sometimes the list style of the view has to be changed in MC to see the effect.
I've used My River and Gizmo to stream to iPad/NexusS, but they don't show this effect, it does not seem to be a MCWS issue.
No big thing, but it can get weird while tagging and importing files to the library :P
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Frustrating bug for this killer app:
Example, my son is watching a show in Office zone. I open JRemote on my iPad and have to go into PlayingNow to select my HiFi Zone.
When I select any other zone, it is shifting the main PC (Office zone) to display the selected zone; so my son's show vanishes and he is looking at my cover art.
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Wishlist:
Is it possible to not show the Password for connection credentials (show the letter shortly, then dots)?
Can you add year and sort options to album view?
Also, is it correct (bug?) that when connecting on IP address to a password protected server, it always says computer is found but authentication failed?
Thanks!
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Adding music to a playlist works well.... however, an option to remove a song from a playlist would be even nicer.
Also, I often find that my kids click on a song and it starts to play rather than holding onto a song and getting the add to play next option, erasing a list of chosen songs... a way to save a list of selected songs would be nice.
dave
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Playing back shuffled is confusing and could use some UI work.
For example, I often want to Shuffle Play one of my Smartlists. If I use the Play all tracks shuffled item in the playlist, though, it doesn't actually shuffle (it plays them in-order). Same goes for browsing my music library through the Audio item. The "Play all tracks shuffled" button doesn't seem to work at all, for some reason.
If I long-tap on an item (without "opening it") and choose Shuffle and Play All, this works correctly.
PS. Maybe it is because I have sort-order defined explicitly in all of my Views and Smartlists, rather than sorting using the column headings in Standard View? But that's how you have to do it to get a sort-order in the Media Network views, so it needs to be able to deal with that.
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A super-duper-awesomesauce addition for the future would be the ability to cache a certain amount of music locally for offline playback (limited to a certain user-selectable size). So, for example, I could tell JRemote to cache up to 6GB of data.
What I'm thinking is two-fold:
1. You could designate a certain Playlist/Smartlist (or something) in the server-setup settings, and then JRemote would try to keep these files cached all the time (checking for new items whenever on WiFi and downloading them in the background, for example).
2. It would cache the last-songs-played in a FIFO system. The stuff that hasn't been played the "longest ago" would fall out of the cache as it fills up (but it would preserve the items in #1 first and only do #2 if there was extra room left over in its "allotted space").
Then, just add a special JRemote-side playlist item to the Playlists "Tab" that shows all currently cached media. This would be SUPER SWEET for using JRemote in places with no cell coverage (Airplanes and whatnot). I don't know what the implications of that would be for the App Store, but I suspect it would be fine. iCatcher and all the podcast catchers do essentially the same thing (download tracks in the background and save them in the App's storage). There might even be other music streamers that do this, I'm not sure, as I use JRemote not those.
Also, it would be really awesome if JRemote would do a bit of read-ahead caching.
So, if you are playing an album, when it finishes downloading the current track to play back, start downloading the next one and hold it in the cache, so that when it comes time to switch tracks, you don't have trouble if your 3G connection is weak at that particular moment. Plus, you could probably implement gapless playback then, which would be sweet.
I can tell that with my home server at least, JRemote typically downloads the entire currently playing track well before the track is finished playing. You can tell if you are playing something and then move somewhere where the signal is non-existent/weak. The current track finishes playing, but then it stops when trying to load the next track. So, once you have the caching system, why not keep reading the next upcoming track, to prevent this? Of course, the user might manually switch, and then you'll have to stream the new one anyway, but most of the time it would prevent the "gap" and make playback more reliable.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and the UI isn't great when you do encounter network problems due to weak signal. It doesn't give you an error or any feedback, it just refuses to play, and looks broken. You don't want it popping up modal dialogs all the time (which would be annoying), but some sort of indicator that shows "network problems, please wait" would be good. It also seems like at some point JRemote "gives up" trying to resume when it hits a problem like this. It would be good to keep trying to resume for a while, and then change the indicator to show "I gave up, move somewhere with better signal and try again" or something.
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One last thing in my sudden tirade of JRemote suggestions (I've been using it a TON this week):
Special handling for Audiobooks.
While essentially ALL of my music listening on my iDevices has moved to JRemote, I still use the built-in Music app for Audiobooks (which means I still need to sync my phone with iTunes which makes glynor sad). I use the built-in app because it has the 30sec skip back button and auto-resumes playback properly where you left off mid-file.
So, when JRemote is playing a list of files where [Media Sub Type]=Audiobook, it should:
* Resume where last-played in a track (use Bookmarking).
* Change the Playing Now UI to provide 30sec skip ahead/back buttons (I'd actually prefer 30 ahead, 10 back, but whatever you think is best will do).*
It would be neat if it could use/sync the Bookmarking with MC too, if possible in the API. That way, when I'm out and about, I could listen to an audiobook in JRemote, and then when I get home, fire up the same audiobook in MC and resume right where I left off on the "big stereo". If this isn't possible, though, then JRemote should have its own bookmarks.
* I really like how iCatcher has a swipe gesture for this. Swipe right on Playing Now to skip 30 seconds ahead, swipe left to skip 10 seconds back. It is easier to do this in the car than use a small touch target, particularly when the phone is mounted in a cradle thing on the windshield or dash.
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Hi,
Just downloaded and started using and it works great EXCEPT - there's alway that....
actually not a big problem - I create the server using the passcode generated by MC and when I am on my home wifi network - no problems streaming to device.
When I try to stream when I am not connected to my network it doesn't seem to work. So I created another server and directly typed in the global access IP manually and the correct port and then it works.
It seems to me that it is not using or switching over to the global access IP address when you choose the connect with access key option.
Hope that helps.
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Les, just installed the new version that came out today.... Is there anyway to go back to the previous version?
Thx
tony
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Just loaded the new version from AppStore, but can't connect anymore.
There was no problem with the previous version.
No matter how i try to connect (access key or ip address + port), the connection fails because of wrong username/password - which are in fact perfectly correct.
The error message is: Found your computer but authentication failed. Make sure all values are correct.
This happens on an iPad 1st Gen with iOS 5.1.1.
What can i do?
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Thanks for the update LesPaul! The iPad revision is sweet.
I love the Server specific, "Play to This Device" default setting. It will allow me to never have to pick a zone. I ONLY play to my device from my "Server". And I ONLY play to my main zone with my "HTPC".
One small bug on the iPhone version. The Home Button and Playlist Button at the top obscure the Artist/Album text.
Thanks again!
Patrick
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Just updated the JRemote App and now it crashes when I try to browse the categories views, i.e. albums, artist.....
Anyone else having this issue?
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I didn't install the new version because the description tells the Dark theme was removed. Please bring it back! It makes JRemote look better!
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I tried the new version too, and I must say, the Ipad version it's amazing!!! I love it. :D
However I don't like the iPhone version, specially the now playing window. I liked the previous iPhone version a lot more...
Thx for the update LesPaul
One small bug on the iPhone version. The Home Button and Playlist Button at the top obscure the Artist/Album text.
I can confirm this bug
Another bug: In the Ipad version, now playing window in portrait mode, the volume icon it's over the volume bar
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Seeing the issues above I'm not updating it.
But I wish LesPaul would come in and answer the questions/issues people have. He used to be more active I believe :(.
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In the hour or so that I am testing the new version I don't have any crash yet
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Hey guys,
The reason that I am absent from this place at times is that I need breaks from this project so I wont burn out:).
I`m going over your comments now, and will answer soon.
I hope that most people are happy with the new update. A couple of people have reported crashes, and I suggest that they delete and reinstall the application.
While it probably does not look like it, this is probably the biggest update yet for JRemote. Most of the code has been altered in some way.
At the same time this is probably the best tested version, but I am not able to find every bug, and peoples setup may differ.
I think for upcoming versions, I may use a couple of beta testers, It`s becoming too much for me to handle alone.
The iphone version was a bit neglected in this revision, I am going to concentrate more on this version for the next release. Also, I can see that the new "now playing" design is not that great, will probably change it back. But the black "now playing" view on the iPad version will stay, its sort of in transitional state, more changes to come there.
The reason I removed the dark theme in this version was because of time issues. Maintaining two seperate versions of the interface is very time consuming, but it will be back soon.
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Deleting the App and reinstalling it, then entering the correct data did not solve my problem.
JRemote still can't connect to my computer.
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I just want to talk a bit about the streaming support. Glynor, I have read your comments, and there are good suggestions there that I will look more closely at.
This is more about streaming in general.
iOS does support gapless playback by using the AVQueuePlayer object. The reason it`s not used right now is that it didn`t really fit in with how JRemote lets you manipulate playlists. The queueplayer is pretty much designed to receive a list of items to play in order. Altering the playlist like you do in JRemote leads to very poor performance, since the queueplayer does not really support jumping back and forth, and will start to cache every item you skip over.
My first implementation of the streaming support used the queueplayer, but I was forced to abandon it for reasons mentioned and other issues. I think I will try to revisit
the queueplayer again soon to see if I can get it to behave. It is quite annoying with the gaps between songs.
Another issue that i "think" is a problem is that MC does not seem to support apples HTTP Live streaming protocols. It seems that when streaming, files are actually downloaded instead of streamed. This is very taxing on the app, and you will notice that the app becomes slower while the download is in progress.
I have spent a lot of time on this issue, but without much progress. Maybe some of you guys know more about how JRiver`s streaming support?
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Fred1, are you using access key for connection? Could you try manual, or maybe reset the access key in MC?
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Thanks LesPaul, really appreciate your feedback.
I'll update later today (ipad) and I'll report if I run into any issues connecting to stuff.
PS. Have you considered hiding the password?
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Hi Mouse,
I`ll hide the password in the next release.
As always i will release a small update soon with fixes for issues people report in the new version, so please report any issues you may have.
I`ll try to reintroduce the dark theme as well.
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I resetted the acces key in MC, entered the new access key in JRemote - with no success.
If you mean the "connect with IP address" method when you write "manual" then the answer is no; it doesn't work either.
If it helps: i use the latest build of MediaCenter 15
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Could be the old version of JRiver, however I cant see why.
I will investigate the problem later today and let you know.
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Thanks for your efforts!
There were no problems with MC 15 and JRemote with JRemote's last Version, however.
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Hi Mouse,
I`ll hide the password in the next release.
Thanks again!
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Hi, thanks for such a cool app :) I recently moved my media server and library to a new computer and now get the following error message when I access custom library views on jremote "No Media. No media was found in this view". Ive tried resetting the network key and reinstalling jremote but still no joy. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Many thanks.
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Deleting and re-installing the App did not fix the crashes. HELP!
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Thank for for this lovely app, it makes my MC experience just that much better :)
I do have a request though. Would it be possible to make the popup menu that shows when long-pressing a file, show up relative to where you pressed? If not, could you add a configuration option to position it on the middle of the left or right half of the screen that you pressed (or something like that)?
Another request is to make more categories available under audio/video. If it [the app] would list all your media sub types, it would make things a whole lot better. As it is, if I want to play a music video, I'll have to dig down into a whole mess of video clips under "Other" that doesn't fit under the other categories already available either.
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new2hifi, are you the guy that mailed me regarding this crash? Anyway, I need more information about device, iOS version, MC version, any custom MC setup cusomization etc.
You can mail me directly if you wish.
Dirhael:
A better popup menu is on my todo list, including relative positioning.
You can customize all categories and sub-categories from within MC. Look under tools > options > advanced > Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo.
Any changes made here will be reflected in JRemote.
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Thanks again for the update, the support and a great attitude.
You would think some of these making comments would be a bit more gracious. You deserve it.
Quick question.... not really a JRemote question, but it only applies to me when I use it.
In videos, my standard views show all TV Series in order of episode? How can I set up the view so it shows them in Episode order in JRemote?
Thanks again!!
Patrick
PS - I hear you on the streaming/downloading. I keep finding a MC Conversion Folder full of the songs I play remotely.... does this have anything to do with it?
Cheers!
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PS - I hear you on the streaming/downloading. I keep finding a MC Conversion Folder full of the songs I play remotely.... does this have anything to do with it?
I have that folder too, it's weird because even the AAC files are converted to mp3 to be able to stream to JRemote. Could be an option to convert only if necessary? or send pcm if not supported?
Thx LesPaul I appreciate your efforts to please the comunity, and if you want beta testers, count me in! :)
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Hi Paul,
I installed the new version and it works great for me. No more connection issues and I really like the new look.
One other request if you don't mind .. would it be possible to display the 'Year' and add a sort option for it albums? I would often like to sort ascending/descending on year, especially with artists that have a lot of albums.
Cheers!
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new2hifi, are you the guy that mailed me regarding this crash? Anyway, I need more information about device, iOS version, MC version, any custom MC setup cusomization etc.
You can mail me directly if you wish.
Yes! Then I realized that I should come here as others can also benefit from solution.
Here is the video of the problem, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrJg3Dwe3JY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrJg3Dwe3JY)
I am using JRiver Media Center 17 ver. 17.0.182 on Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit. Most unused services of Windows 7 are disabled. No internet connection no firewall. No customization for MC except a customized view for main library and than customized views for Gizmo & WebGizmo. Two DLNA servers in MC sharing same library but little different customized views. For JRemote, I am using iPad 1 with iOS 5.1.1. Last version of JRemote never crashed even once.
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I am getting a crash anytime I enter a large playlist, e.g. Recently Imported, or I queue a big list (Shuffle All on a genere).
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Hey Les,
Please include this MAJOR bug in next fix:
Example, my son is watching a show in Server/Office zone.
I open JRemote on my iPad and have to go into PlayingNow to select my HiFi Zone.
When I log in with JRemote, and choose any other zone besides what my son is watching (or This Device), it is changing the display of the Server/Office zone to display any zone I select for control....so my son's show vanishes and he is looking at my cover art.
Once I switch the Server back to the Office zone, I can continue controlling my HiFi.
Maybe a DEFAULT ZONE is needed besides Play To This Device.
Either way this is a major headache.
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The reason that I am absent from this place at times is that I need breaks from this project so I wont burn out:).
Take your time and whatever you do...
DO NOT BURN OUT.
This app is seriously awesome. I'll read/respond/comment to your other stuff in a while. I'm also busy. ;) ;D
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Take your time and whatever you do...
DO NOT BURN OUT.
This app is seriously awesome. I'll read/respond/comment to your other stuff in a while. I'm also busy. ;) ;D
+ a billion
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HiFiTubes, you bring up an interesting situation.
When you switch zone in JRemote, it will also switch the zone on the server.
However, that is not really necessary. You can control any zone without actually switching the servers zone as well.
I will make this an option in the next version.
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I just installed the new version (2.05) of JRemote on my ipad, connected to my server, and I can't see any icons on the left of my screen to choose any of my media.
The previous versions of JRemote all worked perfectly fine, no problems.
Am I missing something here??
Any help is appreciated!
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new2hifi, I have fixed the crash when scrolling the left pane. Silly mistake on my part.
Its very easy to reproduce. If you have more items than fit in the left pane the app will crash when you scroll.
I wont wait long before releasing the first bugfix release.
MasterC, is this a repeatable behaviour? Is the left navigation bar always empty even if you reconnect or connect to different machines?
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new2hifi, I have fixed the crash when scrolling the left pane. Silly mistake on my part.
Its very easy to reproduce. If you have more items than fit in the left pane the app will crash when you scroll.
I wont wait long before releasing the first bugfix release.
MasterC, is this a repeatable behaviour? Is the left navigation bar always empty even if you reconnect or connect to different machines?
I just tried it on my other server and it worked fine. Still doesn't work on my main server....
Nothing has changed on either server, the only thing I did was install the new version of JRemote in the iPad.
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Updated my iPad last night.
It "lost" the entries for all of my servers. There were still the right number of entries, but they were all "blank" (no name, no server info). I had to reconfigure it from scratch. Might want to take a look at that, but I'm not going to cry.
Also, love the new UI for iPad. Didn't update my phone yet because I'm chicken before I go on a big trip.
However, I for one vote for the come-back of the Dark Theme.
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blank servers (right quantity) as well here when I updated. Also not a big deal for me.
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Could be the old version of JRiver, however I cant see why.
I will investigate the problem later today and let you know.
Do you have any suggestion to solve my problem of not being able to connect to the server anymore with the new version of JRemote?
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Les, just installed the new version that came out today.... Is there anyway to go back to the previous version?
Thx
tony
LesPaul,
I, too, would like to know If there is a way to come back to the previous version? I haven't updated to 2.05 yet because of the lack of the dark theme on that version, as I am afraid I won't like It at all, but I am still quite curious to try the new one anyway... So, If there is a way to come back to a previous version, I will install It, otherwise, will probably wait for Norma Desmond's comeback...
Picky customers, aren't we?
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Sorry guys, there is no way to get back to previous versions, its a limitation of the app store.
I recommend that those depending on the dark theme wait a bit, I am working on it at the moment, and hope to include it in the next bugfix update.
I will try to release the updated version this weekend, so you will have it by next week.
Fred1, I not yet been able to reproduce your issue. I have tried with JRiver version 15 in all possible configurations.
As far i I know you are the only one having this issue, but at the same time its a critical issue, so I need to find the cause.
MasterC, your issue is also quite hard to track down, and I will need more time on that.
Can you think of any differences between your two servers? I`m thinking specifically about how jriver is configured.
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Les Paul,
Thank you for the updated version. I had no issues except the crash caused by scrolling the left pane which you had already solved.
For me the most desirable feature for the next versions is to be able to open the associated pdf booklets of the albums. You can maybe give a link or button to the pdf file that exists in the folder of the album's tracks. This button can download the pdf file and then automatically activate the ibooks to open it.
This would be the best feature (for me) of your already superb software.
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Sorry guys, there is no way to get back to previous versions, its a limitation of the app store.
I recommend that those depending on the dark theme wait a bit, I am working on it at the moment, and hope to include it in the next bugfix update.
I will try to release the updated version this weekend, so you will have it by next week.
Fred1, I not yet been able to reproduce your issue. I have tried with JRiver version 15 in all possible configurations.
As far i I know you are the only one having this issue, but at the same time its a critical issue, so I need to find the cause.
MasterC, your issue is also quite hard to track down, and I will need more time on that.
Can you think of any differences between your two servers? I`m thinking specifically about how jriver is configured.
I'll try to play around with some settings when I get a chance....but as to what is different between the two servers settings right now I'm not too sure. BTW I like the new interface...and I appreciate your help in tracking down this problem!
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Since you're requiring iOS 5+ now, it'd be nice if JRemote saved the configuration info (servers and whatnot) to iCloud.
Also, the new iPad version doesn't seem to be remembering the list-style (thumbs, list, and whatever you call the list one with the thumbs) through restarts of the App.
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I, too, would like to know If there is a way to come back to the previous version? I
Yes you can, if you haven't synced your apps yet. Delete the new updated app from your iOS device, then sync apps and it should put the old one back on your device.
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Just received the latest and update and....Wow!
This is certainly the best app, either server remote or DLNA app, that I've tried, and I've tried a few! It is slick and attractive adn "just works".
I haven't thrashed it yet to see if I can make it crash or find any esoteric problems.
Some minor suggestions I have:
1. Where "Player" and "This Device" are shown as Zones, could you display the name of the current server instead of "Player" (the name has to be defined to JRemote anyway ont he server configuration) and, similarly, is there a way to display the actual name of "This Device" which should be stored somewhere int he IOS settings? Is this something that other people might find useful too?
2. Now Playing is looking a bit neglected compared with the browse screens! I actually like the style of Plugplayer's Now Playing screen, and also when you rotate to portrait mode, the cover artwork takes precedence and the onlt other things ont he screen are basic metadat and transport/volume controls. The play/browse list is accessible by a clickable button. So could you hide the playlist in the same way that you've done on the browse screens, by being able to "drag it up"? In fact, that whole control bar at the bottom could be carried over to the Now Playing screen. I attach (hopefully) a couple of screenshots of Plugplayer.
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updated to new version - can't even seem to find the browsing section of the app??? Something isn't right - I can only see now playing and the home page which is just the jremote logo and version (2.5). Any suggestions?
It also reset my server information and I had to re enter the key.....
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Tank you for the new update
I'use whith mu Ipad
Very very happy , just missing the Record the playlist
Is the best remote for JRiver
;D :D
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In french now
Merci beaucoup pour la nouvelle version
C'est le meilleurs updates jusque a date
JRemote est le meilleurs remote pour jriver sur le marché.
Il manque juste l'application pour enregistrer les plays liste de jremote
Un coup cela réaliser vous ne touchez plus a rien, c'est parfait
Merci encore pour votre bon travail ;D ;)
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broncodan, if you try to reconnect several times, is the navigation still not visible?
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Hi,
I have tried connecting and re-connecting multiple times; I have deleted and reset the server multiple times. It will allow me to enter a key and connect but will not let me add the ip address and connect - so that is weird. Was working with previous version both ways. Let me know if there is anything else I can try or any other information you need.
Thanks.
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Sorry guys, there is no way to get back to previous versions, its a limitation of the app store.
I recommend that those depending on the dark theme wait a bit, I am working on it at the moment, and hope to include it in the next bugfix update.
I will try to release the updated version this weekend, so you will have it by next week.
Fred1, I not yet been able to reproduce your issue. I have tried with JRiver version 15 in all possible configurations.
As far i I know you are the only one having this issue, but at the same time its a critical issue, so I need to find the cause.
MasterC, your issue is also quite hard to track down, and I will need more time on that.
Can you think of any differences between your two servers? I`m thinking specifically about how jriver is configured.
Actually I am having this issue too. I updated the app, and it lost all my server details. When I try to connect using IP address it says it can find my server but authorization has failed. I do not have a username and password so left this blank. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling with no success. The PC that this is on is not connected to the Internet so I cannot use the access key method. It all worked flawlessly with the previous version. I am running MC17.0.182.
Colin
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I have gone back to the older version and it works with the access key. Not sure what the issue is with new version. I did notice that everything I play ends on a recently imported playlist but it doesn't update the imported date or anything in the library that I can tell and that list disappears when I close and reopen MC - so I don't think it is an issue.
I did notice that play count, skip count, and associated dates do not update. Is this something that could be added or added as an option (like ratings?).
Another option that would be cool is if you could map playcounts to a separate custom column e.g. played from my jukebox.
Thanks.
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Okay - starting to use a bit more I have a few more suggestions:
1 - an option to "add to playlist and shuffle playlist' when you want to add another artist or playlist to the playing now. As it is it just adds to the end of the playlist (or play all next). The reason this would be a good option is if you are adding multiple artist to the playlist - you may want them to be shuffled. Or a shuffle button on the now playing list - so you could add what you want and then go push shuffle. OR an "on the go" type playlist ala apple - add artists, playlists, etc to playlist then add that to now playing. Maybe too much that way though - as then people may want to save playlist and transfer back to MC (which would be cool but not necessary).
2 - an option on the now playing list - to clear playlist - as it is now you have to clear it from the selection page
3 - settings option on the bottom of the screen (or the option to switch out the bottom) - for instance I don't (currently) use the video setting - I would rather have the settings button there (although maybe once you have it set up you may not mess with that much) but since I am new it is a pain to have to keep going back.
Thanks again.
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I`m having a hard time finding any problems related to server connections. At least I cant reproduce it on my setup.
broncodan and frederick184, are you 100% sure it is a problem with the new version?. Please double check IP`s etc.
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Les Paul,
i dont think anything has changed RE: server connections, i.e. these existed in previous version(s).
On my home computer I can connect via either access key or IP.
But if I initially connect via access key over wifi, I cannot find server when off home network, even though the Global IP is in there and correct.
For me, to be able to connect remotely I must create the server off network, then connect via global IP.
For my Buddy #1, he must use the access key, then delete IP and enter global.
Buddy #2 is identical to me.
Eventually we can all get connected. The key, for me, is to do this over 3G not Wifi.
This was the same in previous versions.
Thanks!!!
Patrick
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updated to new version - can't even seem to find the browsing section of the app??? Something isn't right - I can only see now playing and the home page which is just the jremote logo and version (2.5). Any suggestions?
It also reset my server information and I had to re enter the key.....
This is the exact same problem I was previously describing for myself....broncodan, did you manage to get yours to work at all???
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Hi Lespaul
I have installed the new release but am encountering the same issues I had before.
To recap briefly: I have a very large library mostly audio files, and those are principally FLAC. With JRemote, I can access artists alphabetically, but (a) Search returns nothing; (b) Albums tells me 'loading media...please wait' and hangs for long periods of time. I can access genres (where I have tags like 'jazz-piano'), Composer and Highly Rated.
The search capacity is quite important to me. Is this a function of library size? Is it possible to add filters so that the search is restricted to the artist or name fields?
Thnx/zootsuit
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Hi,
I tried the new version on 2 different Ipads that I have (original and #2) and the same issue with both. I have attached a picture of what it looks like. I am not able to get access at all with the IP address - it does connect via the key but still no joy on any browsing or library. I also thought it might be an issue if updating the app as opposed to downloading it fresh from the app store so I deleted it from my ipad and downloaded a new one from the appstore and it behaves exactly the same way.
Fortunately I saved the older version and am able too use that. Hopefully you can find the bug.
On a side note the new version works on my iphone. So maybe it is an ipad only issue?
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Hi,
I tried the new version on 2 different Ipads that I have (original and #2) and the same issue with both. I have attached a picture of what it looks like. I am not able to get access at all with the IP address - it does connect via the key but still no joy on any browsing or library. I also thought it might be an issue if updating the app as opposed to downloading it fresh from the app store so I deleted it from my ipad and downloaded a new one from the appstore and it behaves exactly the same way.
Fortunately I saved the older version and am able too use that. Hopefully you can find the bug.
On a side note the new version works on my iphone. So maybe it is an ipad only issue?
Just to confirm that is the exact same screen that I am getting.....
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Yes you can, if you haven't synced your apps yet. Delete the new updated app from your iOS device, then sync apps and it should put the old one back on your device.
Thx for the tip, I forgot about that. I deleted the new version on the Ipad and then opened Itunes on the PC and copied the 2.01 version of JRemote to the IPad. I'm happy again. I guess it's just me but I much prefer 2.01.... ;/)
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broncodan and masterC, I`d appreciate if you could check something for me.
Paste this in your browser: http://10.0.1.10:52199/MCWS/v1/Browse/Children, and tell me what you get in return. (Replace the actual ip to your server).
You should get an xml list in return, and i`d just like to see if everything looks ok.
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Here is what I got:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="true"?>
-<Response Status="OK"> <Item Name="Audio">1</Item> <Item Name="Playlists">4</Item> <Item Name="Images">2</Item> <Item Name="Video">3</Item> <Item Name="Playlists">4</Item> </Response>
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broncodan and masterC, I`d appreciate if you could check something for me.
Paste this in your browser: http://10.0.1.10:52199/MCWS/v1/Browse/Children, and tell me what you get in return. (Replace the actual ip to your server).
You should get an xml list in return, and i`d just like to see if everything looks ok.
I tried this, too.
OS is Windows XP Professional.
My result is a dialog, which asks for my username and password.
After entering the correct values, this same diolog pops up again and again.
Username and password aren't accepted.
When i try via RDP (using the iTeleport app), there is no problem to connect with the same data.
I can remote control this computer.
With the last version of JRemote there was no problem, too.
Unfortunately, i was not able to restore the last version of JRemote.
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broncodan, could you contact me by email, I`m gonna have to ask you to beta test the new version before release.
Fred1, if you are not able to connect using the url i provided, that means that the username or password is wrong.
Please verify this in MC under tools > options > network > advanced.
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Fred1, if you are not able to connect using the url i provided, that means that the username or password is wrong.
Please verify this in MC under tools > options > network > advanced.
Thanks, that did the job!
I entered a new username and password in MC, then tried to connect with JRemote and … it works.
Nice new version as far as i can see it in the short time i used it now!
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Love the new version.
Some comments.
1. in "playing Now" when you are in view Metatags the volume and % of song played are cut off.
2. I would love to see a way to reorder song in the Playing Now section (by dragging above or below another song) or the ability to REMOVE a song from this list.
3. Recent Import - Is there a way to list Audio versus Video separately? That is Recently Imported Audio and Recently Imported Video? This is a nuisance as i frequently import both.
4. Thanks for getting video to finally work. I note that only .mp4 works (as expected). I use airvideo to transcode avi files onto my IPad (JRiver does not transcode properly - at least I have never gotten it to work). Anyway to use something like that to transcode into JRiver? That way I could use a single program for all my audio and video needs. That is truly the one missing thing for making this the BEST App on my IPAD.
Thanks for all the hard work
Dave
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email was sent yesterday to the email in your profile.
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email was sent yesterday to the email in your profile
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who was this referred to?
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Lespaul....
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Hoping for the next release soon as the current is getting unusable.
Can't connect half the time on LAN. Restarting MC or JRemote sometimes helps, or toggling the authentication option.
Also, the scrolling bug is still in the newest version; crashes the app every time you scroll quickly in the left menu.
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I copied your reply to my question on search some time back.
Your response is below.
I don't really understand, you have a terrific app and could be the best app for handling JMC.
But your competitor can in fact show the artist and the album for the search results so that it is easy to identify which song named "Crazy" (as an example) I am selecting. This is very important.
You are head and shoulder above the competition except for this area, and it is a requirement.
Have you reassessed this limitation and maybe a work around.
My River is showing the search results needed to determine which song to select. Where are they getting the information if it is not available to you?
I have to use both products because of this issue only.
Thanks for a great product.
The following is from early dialog, sorry don't know how to cut and paste that earlier stuff.....
The search is limited by by MC`s webservice.
While their fuzzy search engine is quite amazing, the data you can get from the webservice is limited.
There is no possible way to get cover art or even get the artist or album for a track. You get the track name, and that's it.
I am hoping that JRiver will improve the search capabilities in upcoming versions.
I suspected this was the case, but thanks for confirming.
I too hope they improve this in the API. I'm sure they'll listen to you on this, so thanks for commenting.
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I have just submitted the next version for approval. I had two guys with problems beta test (Thank you), and it seems like their problems are now resolved.
In addition I have completed the dark theme for the new interface, image attached.
I also added an option to not update zone on server, only locally on device.
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Many many thanks!
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Great news Lespaul !!!! Thanks.
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Love the new version. well done.
one question...where is shuffle control in now playing?
Iirc you can add shuffled lists, but I add songs to playing next and THEN shuffle the while list.
thanks.
actually, a second question..I am loking at integrating this intomcommandfusion HA app, Cf will flip to JRemote using JRemote:/// URL call. wou
d be great to be able to have a button in jremote that make a URL call so I can jusp back to CommandFusion app. Any interest in allowing JRemote to initiate another app?
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Hi Davros, good point, I`ll add a shuffle control soon to the now playing list.
Regarding your second question, I have no problem integrating with other apps, but I need details, preferably from the developer of the other app.
A bit of bad news, I found a bug in the current version that forced me to resubmit the app for review, so there will be a few more days.
As a bonus, I have optimized the download and parsing of long lists, so it`s now many times faster. In my test i downloaded and displayed a tracklist of 6000+ tracks in 3 seconds on my ipad.
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I feel a bit guilty about suggesting this, but I guess if you don't ask then you don't get!
This app is certainly the slickest and best looking remote control for J River that I've seen and I thank you so much for doing this. It's what J River should have developed themselves really right from the start. I have to admit I've not seen Gizmo on Android, so maybe that's pretty good too, and WebGizmo is also a huge improvement over the original web service.
This is the sort of thing that a lot of people have been waiting for, for a long time. Remote control via a touchscreen hand-held device. But I now see requests starting to appear for a Theater View type of interface on a hand-held device...
You know, you could pre-empt this and blow everything else out of the water, by implementing another type of view (aliong with list and thumbnails - the cover art browsing is what I've been waiting for for so long). How about a Cover Flow view? You don't have to complicate it by switching in or out of modes or Display views or Theater Views or whatever, just provide another selectable view type at the top of the screen that can re-present the current items in a typical coverflow format. Wow!
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Thank you csimon,
It would be no problem adding a coverflow view mode. Is anyone else interested in this?
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It would be no problem adding a coverflow view mode. Is anyone else interested in this?
I would rather see a nice playing now view with very large cover art and basic information about the playing track (like in iPeng). That would look good with the iPad in its stand.
PS. I guess you have already noticed the bugs in portrait mode track list views where the play action button is obscured and inaccessible and where long track names in text only mode can obscure the duration info.
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I would rather see a nice playing now view with very large cover art and basic information about the playing track (like in iPeng). That would look good with the iPad in its stand.
1. I agree. Or a button to just max out the screen into large cover art.
2. Rather than cover flow, I'd like to see the MC Cover View mimicked to maximize views that use just album covers.
3. Most importantly, JRemote could be the first 3rd Party app to support custom sorting. These settings on views never seem to be carried over, and would be very useful.
I'm excited to try the new version, as many of my views would crash JRemote due to the large number of files. Keep up the great work!
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1. I agree. Or a button to just max out the screen into large cover art.
I've already requested this - but it's not mutually exclusive with Coverflow! I'm not actually particularly *for* coverflow, it's more trying to recreate the Theater View experience on a handheld touch device. It would be far more direct and intuitive than pressing up and down, left and right on a remote control and scrolling a page at a time and pressing back to get back up the rollers.... just adding a bit more eye candy to a device like the iPad which has all sorts of ways to provide eye candy....it seems a waste of its capabilities to just present list views which is what a lot of controllers do. J River is already streets ahead of other controllers with its large icon and "prettiness" and speed of use, I'm just asking for a bit more of the Wow factor!
3. Most importantly, JRemote could be the first 3rd Party app to support custom sorting. These settings on views never seem to be carried over, and would be very useful.
I've noticed this and I'm convinced it's a bug in the MC server (I created a thread reporting it). JRemote uses the Web Gizmo/Gizmo/Web services views and no clients that use these seem to carry over custom sorting properly. The DLNA views do it. The problem is it's difficult enough to keep tabs on creating the same views and sort orders for each "view" that's in MC itself, never mind setting up views on individual clients. My ideal is to create the views and sorting that you want (just once) on the server and then all clients that connect to it obey the same rules.
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Thanks for the upcoming update LesPaul!
I vote "Don't Care" for cover flow. I have never used it in any players. It sounds crash-tacular in JRemote. But of course if others want it....
In general, I think the app is GREAT as it stands now. The ONLY aspect I think needs work is remote streaming. I am still getting a fair amount of disconnects and crashes when streaming to the device, off network.
One nice addition would be a spinning icon or some text or something to indicate the app is working on the requested action. For example, when streaming to the device off network, when you hit "next track" or pick a song in the playlist nothing happens as it is working away. That results in more pressing of buttons and eventually all commands pile up and either crash the app or songs start then stop then next then....
Thanks again!
Patrick
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Remembering custom sort is important to me. I like my album lists sorted by year.
I'd like to see an option to not auto expand single albums to a track list.
Most important is the ability to reorder the current Playlist.
Coverflow is of zero importance to me but the suggested improvements in the now playing would great.
Last.fm artist information is great, I'd also like to see Wikipedia added.
Congrats on JRemote, it's awesome enough to make me drop LMS and iPeng for my main system playback. Well maybe Logitech had a part in that as well.
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Thanks for the additional comments guys. I take it that a better "now playing" view is most important.
I have some ideas on this myself, so here is what I was thinking:
Use LESS room for the cover art. Present it in a nice way to the right of the screen with some eye candy along with the current track info. When you click on it, it will expand to full screen
Use the entire left side, say about 70% of the screen for the playlist. Tracks will be listed in a somewhat larger format that the regular tracklists, including thumbnails. Shuffle and clear playlist buttons at the top or bottom.
Other things to do:
- I will look at the possibility for a custom sort function in each view
- Add a local search in each view. I`m currently thinking about a solution where the search field is revealed by dragging down on a view.
- A better popup menu for the play mode view when you hold a track.
pcstockton, I think the upcoming release will help you a bit with remote streaming, as I have loosened up a bit on the disconnect behaviour. But I agree that this is something that needs more work.
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Many thanks Paul, looking forward to the new version already.
Don't overwork though, no one wants you to burn out ;).
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vagskal, you said "track list views where the play action button is obscured and inaccessible". I am not sure what you are referring to here?
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vagskal, you said "track list views where the play action button is obscured and inaccessible". I am not sure what you are referring to here?
See the attached screenshot.
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Thanks for the additional comments guys. I take it that a better "now playing" view is most important.
Now playing could be prettied up but I would consider a way to reorganize and delete tracks from the currently playing playlist as a higher priority.
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I agree Dr Tone, but this is not yet possible because of restrictions in the JRiver webservice.
I don`t know if they are planning to add this functionality, but by the number of request I get for this, they should make it a priority.
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Use the entire left side, say about 70% of the screen for the playlist. Tracks will be listed in a somewhat larger format that the regular tracklists, including thumbnails. Shuffle and clear playlist buttons at the top or bottom.
If you implement this, would it be possibe to also show the ratings of the tracks in the playlist (if ratings are enabled)? That would be great!
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I agree Dr Tone, but this is not yet possible because of restrictions in the JRiver webservice.
I don`t know if they are planning to add this functionality, but by the number of request I get for this, they should make it a priority.
OK, I'll start bugging the J River staff instead. ;D Thanks!
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Thanks for the additional comments guys. I take it that a better "now playing" view is most important.
I have some ideas on this myself, so here is what I was thinking:
Use LESS room for the cover art. Present it in a nice way to the right of the screen with some eye candy along with the current track info. When you click on it, it will expand to full screen
Use the entire left side, say about 70% of the screen for the playlist. Tracks will be listed in a somewhat larger format that the regular tracklists, including thumbnails. Shuffle and clear playlist buttons at the top or bottom.
Other things to do:
- I will look at the possibility for a custom sort function in each view
- Add a local search in each view. I`m currently thinking about a solution where the search field is revealed by dragging down on a view.
- A better popup menu for the play mode view when you hold a track.
The Iphone Now Playing needs a revision as well.
I like the iPad's now playing as it is right now, but your ideas sound great as well, perhaps 60% instead of 70%? Guess we would have to wait and see what looks better.
If you implement this, would it be possibe to also show the ratings of the tracks in the playlist (if ratings are enabled)? That would be great!
Would be cool too.
Thanks Lespaul
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I agree Dr Tone, but this is not yet possible because of restrictions in the JRiver webservice.
I don`t know if they are planning to add this functionality, but by the number of request I get for this, they should make it a priority.
Maybe you could start a thread and propose the function names / parameters you think would be best?
Thanks.
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I would agree that the Now Playing list would be a more important update than cover flow - although both would be nice. I look forward to the ability to shuffle and clear the now playing playlist. One suggestion for the now playing playlist is to remove the track numbers (although some may find this useful - I never look at it - in fact at first glance I always think there is an error in the numbering - as I guess when I see the numbers there I initially thought that they should be in order of the display and not the track number).
Some additional suggestions:
1 - Play Doctor access - not sure if this can be accessed remotely but would be a cool thing to have access to through the JREMOTE.
2 - option to update playcount/skipcounts and associated dates
3 - In the browsing option I would prefer the letters a-z instead of dots but really not that big of a deal - as with a huge library may just get you close anyway.
Thanks for taking in feedback and making a great product better. I recently started using this and it is fantastic. I am using it like a jukebox for my 'Man Room' - aka the garage - my buddies come over browse through my library on the ipad which I have connected to my stereo via a blue tooth receiver - and stream it from there. Just like one of those digital jukeboxes in the bar. Works pretty good (although the bluetooth streaming sound isn't the best but it is passable).
Thanks again for a great app.
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I would agree that the Now Playing list would be a more important update than cover flow - although both would be nice. I look forward to the ability to shuffle and clear the now playing playlist. One suggestion for the now playing playlist is to remove the track numbers (although some may find this useful - I never look at it - in fact at first glance I always think there is an error in the numbering - as I guess when I see the numbers there I initially thought that they should be in order of the display and not the track number).
+1 on all comments, I've always felt that the track numbers in Playing Now looked a bit weird to the eye...
Thanks for all your efforts and a great app!!!
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As regards the track numbers in Playing Now: They are essential when playing tracks from "virtual" albums like the Rolling Stones Magazine top 500 tracks or Billboard [Year] top 100 hits.
In Playing Now I miss the Year info that is now available in other file list type views.
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I personally like the track mumbers, makes it easier to look for track 12 off blah blah album in a list rather than have to look through names....
seems like a split audience on this one :)
I echo everyone's appreciation for your dedication to making this app. the best in the market and allowing us to bring our music collection to life.
Perhaps we should start a thread with pics showing our various uses of your app. so you can see how you have made music easier for us all. Mine would show an iPad on the loungeroom wall handling the multi-zone home audio and (in the process of being) integrated with the CommandFusion Home Automation app. which controls lighting, xbmc's for video, HVAC, watering, alarm, cameras etc.
Thankyou.
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Yeah, track numbers don't make sense when you've built a random playlist, but they're useful when playing whole albums and also useful in Now Playing as part of the basic track information without bringing up the complete metadata window.
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I personally like the track mumbers, makes it easier to look for track 12 off blah blah album in a list rather than have to look through names....
+1
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Ok, seems to be a 50/50 split on the track numbers in "Now playing", so this would be a perfect candidate for an optional setting, maybe it could even be a switch located in the "now playing" view.
And the new version is finally out, let me know if anyone is still having problems.
As a last minute effort I managed to prepare the app for the new iPhone5 so it will support the longer screen. The "now playing" screen also make use of the increased space by placing the time slider/rating etc above the cover art.
Matt, thank you for the response, I can prepare a suggestion for how the editable playlist could be implemented and start a thread.
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Les, the Apple site shows version 2.08 is available for download but when I update 2.05 shows up on my Ipad screen. I've deleted JRemote on the IPad but I'm still only getting 2.05.
Thx
Tony
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just tried again - now it shows 2.06
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just tried again - now it shows 2.06
If you have the ability to choose the dark theme, you are running the current version. He probably just missed updating the version number in the app.
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My thoughts on the UI Changes (using a retina ipad)
1. need a way to sort output of playlists. by artist, etc. and also filter them
2. the metadata button (luggage tag icon) pops open a weirdly sized panel that overwrites the others but only partially (this looks ok for the now playing page, but looks weird for the playlist itself)
3. the metadata for now playing should auto-update between tracks. having to click "view" is weird
4. audio> genre> broken. says "No media" No media was found in this view
5. Maybe a better (more intelligent or at least configurable grouping) view for the "list+icon"? no point having each track have art when they are all the same.
instead have one larger image + list for each album
6. Dont like the weird duplication of data in the playlist, now playing, and the draggable playlist. To me this should all be combined into a single screen where the currently playing track in a playlist should be updated automatically with ability to rate, etc. Its convoluted to have to go to 'now playing' when all the info is right there in the playlist already. There is the draggable playlist at the bottom which also shows this, but whats the point of that? its just duplicated info. Also need a quick way of rating files like in that draggable list, but should be in the main screen.
7. Please add some customization options for how things are displayed!! This is all a very personal experience and everyone wants to do it differently. If you are going to satisfy the majority of users it has to be easily customized to the user. There are virtually no customizable options right now.
(update) 8. seeing a bug in that draggable playlist panel. I have a track playing (#10). Press next track icon it goes to the correct track, draggable list is updated correctly. If, instead, I click a track directly in that draggable playlist it goes to a random track. (shuffle is not selected)
(update) 9. Ability to dynamically add a playing track to a new playlist via long-press. This would be a first step towards allowing multiple users to operate JRemote.
I do like the overall look and feel though, great stuff!
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Since the dark theme is back for JRemote, I downloaded 2.08 this morning (after skipping 2.05 altogether).
I must admit I am not exactly in love with the new layout, to me It looks a bit too busy and cluttered. Still works good though. It just isn't as clean looking as 2.00. Then again, I only use JRemote (or MC for that matter) for music only.
Two questions regarding the new (to me) layout:
1- Is is normal that the "Now playing" window doesn't appears automatically whenever I choose a song (as It use to)?
2- Why is the small cover art thumbnail appears on every songs on some albums and not on others when I do Audio/Artist/Album/Songs? I tried many different albums to try to see a pattern of how I tagged my music to no avail. Different albums ripped and tagged the same day/the same way, some shows the small cover thumbnail, others don't. No big deal here, but I am curious nonetheless.
Even though I am not madly in love with the new layout, keep up the good work LesPaul, JRemote's still the very best!
Thanks!
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Updated to 2.06 on my iPad 3 and now I don't have any cover art in "Playing Now", it does appear elsewhere though.
Reinstalling JRemote did not fix it.
Previous version on my Touch still works fine.
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Lespaul, tested the new version, thanks for the hard work and bugfixes. I agree that a toggle switch for the track #/item # in playlist is the best solution. I really like the UI as it is right now.
Why in the ipad version cover art is not shown in lockscreen as the iphone version?
Streming questions:
1.- Seems that mp3 is used for streaming even for m4a aac files, can't stream the m4a directly??
2.- Can the already stacked mp3 used for streaming?
3.- Any chance to stream flac or uncompressed? Or stream something without leaving cache on server
Comments:
2. the metadata button (luggage tag icon) pops open a weirdly sized panel that overwrites the others but only partially (this looks ok for the now playing page, but looks weird for the playlist itself)
I think it's ok as it is right now, it only conflicts with large name songs
3. the metadata for now playing should auto-update between tracks. having to click "view" is weird
I agree it should auto-update in the now playing screen, but not in the views (where you maybe are browsing the library, should not interrumpt you)
4. audio> genre> broken. says "No media" No media was found in this view
Is working well for me
5. Maybe a better (more intelligent or at least configurable grouping) view for the "list+icon"? no point having each track have art when they are all the same.
instead have one larger image + list for each album
I totally agree
6. Dont like the weird duplication of data in the playlist, now playing, and the draggable playlist. To me this should all be combined into a single screen where the currently playing track in a playlist should be updated automatically with ability to rate, etc. Its convoluted to have to go to 'now playing' when all the info is right there in the playlist already. There is the draggable playlist at the bottom which also shows this, but whats the point of that? its just duplicated info. Also need a quick way of rating files like in that draggable list, but should be in the main screen.
I Like the way it is right now, I see the draggable playist as a "quick way" to change song when browsing the library, so is perfect for me.
7. Please add some customization options for how things are displayed!! This is all a very personal experience and everyone wants to do it differently. If you are going to satisfy the majority of users it has to be easily customized to the user. There are virtually no customizable options right now.
Totally agree, options please everyone.
(update) 8. seeing a bug in that draggable playlist panel. I have a track playing (#10). Press next track icon it goes to the correct track, draggable list is updated correctly. If, instead, I click a track directly in that draggable playlist it goes to a random track. (shuffle is not selected)
Can't reproduce this yet, working well for me
(update) 9. Ability to dynamically add a playing track to a new playlist via long-press. This would be a first step towards allowing multiple users to operate JRemote.
Interesting!
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#4 and #8 are now working for me as well. Not sure what changed. I'll report back if I see it again
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I Like the way it is right now, I see the draggable playist as a "quick way" to change song when browsing the library, so is perfect for me.
Ok, after using it for a while, I do see the usefulness of the draggable playlist, especially since the now playing metadata doesn't update properly. I still think the now playing has a bit of an identity/utility crisis though
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the now playing metadata doesn't update properly.
What do you exactly mean???
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I mean when in the Now playing screen clicking on the luggage icon, (metadata), it doesnt update when the song changes. The metadata is not linked to the now playing song, and has those odd "view" buttons. Its just a little strange ui wise.
What do you exactly mean???
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Thanks for the new version!
I am afraid that the new scrollbar is not working very well for me.
As you know it is possible to set the sort order for a view in MC and name the item groups in that view independently. The scrollbar alphabet is constructed from the name displayed, i.e. scrolling with the scrollbar does not necessarily move though the items in the sort order set. The album view I use the most is set to sort by album name, but I have set that view to display the year first, [Year] - [Album] …. Now I get a scrollbar with just three items, # with thousands of items, A for the automatic All item and U for the few albums with an unknown release date, making it impossible to scroll through my albums. Would it be possible to use the info from the set sort order to construct the scrollbar?
With a large collection it is often wise to have views already grouped by the alphabet to quickly find a specific item. Now the scrollbar in the single letter sub views shows just A for the automatic All item and the selected letter, making it impossible to scroll. The issue is the same for my views based on year or age.
Could you please make the A-Z scrollbar optional? A button in one end of the bar to toggle the mode perhaps (because the A-Z scrollbar is good to have when it works)?
Thank you.
PS. When the playlist is expanded tapping once outside the playlist selects the item you tapped. I think it would feel more iOS like if the playlist was collapsed instead (although then the possibility to have both the timeline and the playlist expanded at the same time would be lost).
EDIT: The search result is not displayed in track number order for albums. Adding an album from the search result to now playing does add the tracks in track number order. Here the issue is instead that the disc number is ignored, i.e. for a 3 cd album the tracks are added like 1,1,1,2,2,2 etc.
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Definite problem with Authentication over WAN. I'm using homedns.org and ONLY when I enter the IP directly I can connect.
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Thanks for the update. I appreciate the work on this!
A few comments/issues:
I am still getting kicked out of the program pretty consistently. I typically use Playlist/Smartlist. I have several smartlists setup that are 100 songs not listened to in 6 months. When I select a playlist, sometimes it will pull it up, and other times it will just close the app down. I tried pulling up the Play Doctor current list, same thing.
Choosing dark interface, I go to albums and nothing appears to show. It does not crash but nothing is there. I changed to light interface and it worked.
I am wondering if crash issues can be caused by low space. I can tell you I use Plug Player and My River and both can pull up my smartlist on the same remote server as I am attempting on JRemote.
If there is any debug I can do please advise. I would love to roll this to my wife but the crashing cannot happen and still get WAF!
iPhone 3G versions 5.1.1
Errors occur across 3g (remotely) and local wireless network.
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Everything is working well on my end. iPhone 5 with OS6.
VERY VERY nice using the extra real estate available on the 5's taller screen. You are one of the few non-native apps on my phone that have already taken advantage of it.
CHEERS!
Patrick
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HiFi, Just wanted to confirm it was working for me and maybe this info helps you.
I am able to get outside and inside access using dyndns. I have 1 profile on my iPhone. In that profile I use an internal IP (not a name) and specific port. Same profile, I have global access setup pointing to my dyndns name, but you have to place the ":###" at the end of your dns name, where ### is the port number you use in the upper portion of the setup.
Pete
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Quick question, probably already answered:
How do I delete a song from the list of play now playlist.
I selected a song for the list now want to delete that song before it plays.
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Nevermind this post, turned out I had a virus on my computer.
Thanks for a great app, keep up the awesome work!
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Hi Everybody,
please make an Android version of JRemote!
JRiver is a more than amazing/wonderful/astonishing/and-so-on software but Gizmo and the other Android or multi-platform controllers... well, just sucks. I have an HTPC connected to a projector for movies and I use it (90% of the full HTPC working time) headless for music (I'm what is used to be called "an audiophile") with an Asus Transformer tablet as a remote. I'm not yet a registered user of JRiver, so if You think I'm the last one to be in the position to ask something or even to talk in the first place, You sure have a point. Anyway, I installed the 30 days trial of every JRiver release (since version 16) but never been 100% convinced to purchase because of the (at least in my own, personal and very modest opinion) poorness and "fluctuating" performance (Gizmo often loses connection and sometimes is not able to reconnect at all) of the available Android controllers. Therefore I'm always returned back to my old media players.
If an Android version of JRemote will ever be made I'll buy them both (I mean JRiver and JRemote) in zero seconds! I'm pretty sure a lot of people share my feelings and considerations.
Thanks a lot, congratulations for the great job (both to JRiver and JRemote teams) and bye! I really hope to be a "full and legitimate" member of this very active community...
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This was sent by mistake to JRiver:
"I am partially sighted yet I believe I have entered the correct reg. code for enabling my iPhone as an iOS remote. However I am being told I'm entering an invalid access key. Can you help please "
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3.- Any chance to stream flac or uncompressed? Or stream something without leaving cache on server
I also noticed double entries because songs I choose to stream to my device were added to cache directories and into the library.
I disabled the cache location in the options and it seems to no longer create mp3s
streaming flac or an uncompressed stream would be really nice especially over local network (or anywhere were the connection is fast enough for that matter)
it would be nice to have a recently added albums like in jriver under the audio section.
there is a "recent" under audio but it is something different (not sure what, om my phone it looks like an alphabetical list of all albums)
and there is "recently imported" under the playlist tab. but that is also not the same as the recently imported albums list. (again not sure why)
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Wonderful app. I am wondering how to access my streaming radio stations which I have set up in MC as an Audio media type as a child to the Audio tree. I have set up a library field in MC and tagged all radio stations to appear in this view and forced the view to not carry over the parent settings. Ideally I'd like to see my "Radio Stations" under the Audio tree of JRemote rather than having to access playlists. Also how does JRemote handle accessing and controlling live TV broadcasts?
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did anyone got jremote working with mc18?
jriver took over all the mc17 settings when installing. when trying jremote with mc18 it could not find the server. when switching back to mc17 server was found no problem.
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Thanks for all the comments guys, a lot of info to digest.
Here are the highlights of the next version:
bug fixes:
- now playing images not displayed on some zones. (Was actually fixed before, but reappeared)
- Correct order in search results
And new "now playing" options:
- Shuffle playlist
- Clear playlist
- Toggle display of track number vs playlist nr.
- Thumbnails and ratings in list.
The UI is also enhanced, mainly on the iPad version.
Not sure yet when it will be ready for release, but it wont be too long.
In general I feel that its better to release small updates frequently rather than big updates.
Regarding an android version, I have actually started experimenting with this, but it might take some time. Sometime early next year I guess.
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Regarding an android version, I have actually started experimenting with this, but it might take some time. Sometime early next year I guess.
This is a great great news! Thank You very much Mr. Lespaul, I'm sure that no matter how long it will takes, it will indeed worth the wait...
Bye
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did anyone got jremote working with mc18?
jriver took over all the mc17 settings when installing. when trying jremote with mc18 it could not find the server. when switching back to mc17 server was found no problem.
Seems to work fine for me. Try the latest version.
Ross
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Does anyone else seem to have the crashing issues that I've described before? I am not sure what else to do other than not use the program as it just keeps crashing. I open it, try to pull up "Album", down it goes. Open it, pull up my smartlist. Down it goes.
I tried a differnet iPhone, same results. Tried different JRiver on a separate system, imported all music files from same shared drive as my other system. Same results, JRemote crashes. Loaded version 18, it imports the version 17 library. Configured JRemote for this version. Same results when I try to open Album. I upgraded my iPhone to 6.0. Still JRemote crashes as it did before.
It sure seems like I have hit as many steps as possible to get this to work, so to me it appears there is a bug here. I guess my only other step would be to create a new library and import 1/2 of my songs or something. I can do that as a test, if advised, but as mentioned before, PlugPlayer can pull up Album pointing to the same media server without issue.
Any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Pete
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thanks for the heads up
knowing it should work i went to investigate further.
it seemed to have been a firewall issue that was keeping me from connecting to mc18. (I don't remember ever having to setup rules for mc17 tho)
chirpp looking at your description it seems the only thing that is the same is your library. so it seems a problem with your current library (or settings) and jremote. have you tried creating a new library and see what happens?
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chirpp, I'd say it was something in your library. Special characters in an Artist Name or Albums Name?
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EJR and Dr Tone, thanks for the replies.
EJR, I created new library's on different systems with still the same results. However, when I create those library's I point to my same music folder on my server Z:\My Music. So it is picking up all of the same files.
Dr Tone, I will have a look at the files. I have 22,000+ in my Audio library. Is there a method to have it search for special characters? And by special characters, am I looking for ", ' ^ ~ and such? If I do find them in the name/artist/genre or any tag, I will change it.
Thanks again for the prompt reply!
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No I'm thinking maybe characters from other languages. But it could be anything really.
I'd start by copying a small subset of your library into a new folder, point MC at it and see if it works. That would definitely tell you if it's something specific in your library.
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I first created a new library with a smaller amount of artists/albums. That worked. So I started going through all album names and renaming items that I thought the character may have been causing an issue. Still no luck.
I then decided to try Gizmo. That runs fine against the library. So to me there wouldn't appear to be issues with my library as Plug Player, Gizmo and MyRiver all allow me to select these same options.
I'll gladly go through the library if LesPaul or others think it may be the issue. I guess I am not seeing how it could be as it works on other programs. Is it a setting I need to change on my phone? Too large of library for this?
Pete
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Look for / or \ in the names.
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Dr Tone, I will have a look at the files. I have 22,000+ in my Audio library. Is there a method to have it search for special characters? And by special characters, am I looking for ", ' ^ ~ and such? If I do find them in the name/artist/genre or any tag, I will change it.
See the example in the expression wiki (http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Media_Center_expression_language#Regex.28....29:_Regular_expression_pattern_matching_and_capture); search for the text "looking for any punctuation character".
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So AC/DC will need to be changed to AC-DC?
I have the same crash issue with a small play list. I am not seeing the any bad characters. I attached screen shots to this reply.
Pete
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just for testing I decided maybe either "Stop, Stop, Stop" or "Na, na, na " were causing the issue. I removed them form the playlist and it comes up ok!
So I added "Stop, Stop" back in and it worked. Added "Na, Na," and it crashes. Is it too much punctuation? Other songs in this playlist have Dashes, hyphen, comma and work in this playlist.
I can't imagine I will go through all songs, artists and albums and remove all commas and hyphens.
Thoughts?
Pete
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So I added "Stop, Stop" back in and it worked. Added "Na, Na," and it crashes. Is it too much punctuation? Other songs in this playlist have Dashes, hyphen, comma and work in this playlist.
That is the track I was going to guess. It has a 0 date, which shouldn't exist. Maybe Lespaul can evaluate w/this track.
There's no reason to remove those characters from the metadata. Jim mentioned / and \ because some of them have special meaning inside of MC, but unless/until you see the issue, don't worry about it just yet.
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I think that is just the world's way of dealing with a "jock rock" compilation.... musical karma.
;)
Patrick
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OK, you got me on the jock rock. Umm, it was for my kids?
Before reading this I thought I would remove the commas in the song title. Still failed. I then thought maybe it was because the commas were in the actual file name. So I made a copy, and removed all commas, then imported again. it still failed.
I then saw the post about the date. Added a date and it worked!
I tried a smartlist and said "date is before 1" and it showed all blank and 0 dates. I changed all 0 dates to 1901 and all blank dates to 1902. I was hopeful that pulling up artists would now work, but it does not. I will go through artists and remove all that have / and \ I guess.
Or are there other fields (I know large question!) that could be causing this?
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Hi chirpp, I have had one other person having problems with missing tags. Very useful that you tracked it down to the missing date tag.
Please let me know if you find any other issues regarding this, I will include a fix in the next release.
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OK, you got me on the jock rock. Umm, it was for my kids?
Before reading this I thought I would remove the commas in the song title. Still failed. I then thought maybe it was because the commas were in the actual file name. So I made a copy, and removed all commas, then imported again. it still failed.
I then saw the post about the date. Added a date and it worked!
I tried a smartlist and said "date is before 1" and it showed all blank and 0 dates. I changed all 0 dates to 1901 and all blank dates to 1902. I was hopeful that pulling up artists would now work, but it does not. I will go through artists and remove all that have / and \ I guess.
Or are there other fields (I know large question!) that could be causing this?
I have AC\DC in my artist and albumartist tags and JRemote is fine with it. I think you might have another tag missing or one with a bad value.
Use mp3tag to look at all your tags at once in a grid view, something might pop out.
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I Am currently experimenting with getting jriver streamingto JRemote from outside my local network.
The listed port is opened on the router and for testing purposes temporary shutdown the firewall.
(I tested the open port on some site to make sure)
however it is unable to connect. all settings seem correct including the the ip adress.
then i tried connecting with the iphone browser and i was able to get into the server and browsed to web play. however failed to get anything to actually play.
have i missed a step or overlooking something here?
update
I got things to play by using webgizmo instead of webplay. so that means MC is reachable from outside.
still no success with jremote however
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Here's how mine is setup and working:
Server name : Kitchen
Access Key: (your key in media server)
Address : Inside ip, like 192.168.1.20
port: The port to run on, let's say 2000
Scroll down to global access and enter your outside ip and port, so 208.208.208.208:2000 as an example
Good luck!
Pete
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Thanks for your reply
i got it working when adding only the outside adress to a new server.
but now i see the only thing different with your settings is that for the outside address you added the port-number to the address.
(the settings like external ip where filled in automatically)
trying that now it works. :D
allot of the settings were filled in automatically maybe in a next release of jremote the portnumber that is listed in the settings can also be used for the external ipfield?
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Glad you got it working! It would seem that the external ip would auto pick up the port setting as you suggested.
Enjoy!
Pete
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Just a follow up on my previous issue. I ended up finding the bad file(s), even though i am not sure what there issue was.
My music is under Z:\My Music\Artist folders
I started with an empty library, then imported Z:\My Music\a* through G*. Then tested with JRemote. It worked, so I removed all files from the library and imported again using Z:\My Music\H*-M*. And so on. Eventually found it in a subfolder using this process, and deleted it as I couldn't see why it was a problem file or files.
Thanks to all for advice.
I am so enjoying using the app without the crashes!
Pete
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Have you considered creating another app with only "play here" hard wired so that I could share my music with my kids remotely without them messing with my current playing?
This would be worth some value, perhaps even the $9.99.
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tx,
Play to this device as Default setting doesn't work for you?
How about setting up a different server for them?
-p
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That is an expensive solution when an additional app would do the trick.
In using the app, it is very easy to select the wrong place to play and then it messes up the playing of the music originally selected.
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i dont see how it costs anything. Can you not run multiple instances of MC on the same computer? Couldn't one use a different pot which you setup on the kids iOS device?
Wouldn't it simply be easiest though to simply teach them how to not change Zones?
-Patrick
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two points:
Not sure one can and or should run two instances on the same machine....
and Kids will be kids.
It was just a thought, can also be confusing for adults.
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do you have another computer anywhere in the house? If so you can easily share the library and only connect up an instance of JRemote to that.
Just trying to help.
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there is an option in the menu to allow multiple instances. if you have it so that the instance they are connected too has just one zone there will be no zone switching possible
I asume you will need a different portnumber for the second server
you could also use webgizmo (http://jriver.com/webgizmo.html) but its still posible to switch zones thi its the first choice you get logging in.
there is also an option in the menu to automatically set JRemote to this device
maybe JRemote could implement a way to lock to the current zone.
(my personal preference would be MC adding the option to control what individual client can do what like switching zones and witch zones)
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or just have the kids use MyRiver, which it seems you have as well.
I sincerely doubt that LesPaul will create an app just for you.
I still think the easiest option is to simply teach your kids how to NOT change Zones from the default "Play to this device". If they are smart enough to utilize JRemote I would think they could learn this as well.
-Patrick
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Hi -- I currently don't have JRiver or JRemote, but have heard many good things about them. I now use iTunes and the remote app for it on my ipad. Itunes has a nice feature which lets you drop pdf's in playlists. That is helpful for me, since that's how I've copied liner notes for my CD's. Unfortunately, the pdf's only show up in itunes on the computer -- not the remote app, which sort of ruins the whole thing. The last thing I feel like doing is standing in front of my stereo's equipment rack reading the sceen!
So, what I'd like to know is a) will MC let you "associate" pdf documents with playlists or music files and b) will that also work on JRemote's ipad app? Thanks. -- David
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Hi Patrick,
I just tested this as I was curious. I created a playlist and added a small pdf document to that list. On my server, it loaded ok. On my remote client running against this server, it loaded ok. On JRemote using my iPhone 3 on the cell network remotely, it does nothing.
On my iPhone I then ran the web interface, Gizmo, against the same server/playlist, and it loaded the image!
I am not aware of a setting within JRemote that would enable this either.
I hope that helps. Either way you should go with JRiver. It is light years better than iTunes, IMHO!
Pete
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I hope that helps. Either way you should go with JRiver. It is light years better than iTunes, IMHO!
Getting up and getting a CD off the shelve and putting it in a CD player is light years better than iTunes... :o
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How can I modify the left hand contents tabs to reflect my music and video library views that I have set up in MC?
Eg in Standard View under Audio I have "Radio Stations" and under video I have mkv and iso lists.
And in Theatre View I have a "Watch List" view and a quick acess "Kids" view list in Video.
Basically I want to retain my View settings when using JRemote.
Thanks
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JRemote uses the Web Services views, i.e. those that Gizmo and Webgizmo use. So you will have to go into Media Network and set up your views again in that section. If you already have Standard View views then you're lucky because you can then choose the item "Use view from Standard View" to copy it the Web views, but if you have Theater View or DLNA views that you want to use in JRemote then you will have to set them up from the beginning.
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In one of the latest MC18 updates they have added Shuffle and Repeat to the web services if I understand correctly.
I would love to see buttons implemented in JRemote to take advantage of this. One of the very few things I'm missing.
Also I've found that all my music is shown out of order when found through a search. Is this a problem with my setup or is this something that JRemote just does? I have attached two screenshots showing the same album found through "Audio>Albums" and "Search>Album" where you can see my problem. The strange thing is that if I press track number 1 in the search result (shown as track 9 in the list) it will still play the album in the correct order. It will play it in correct order no matter which song I choose, but if I choose a track other than 1, it will never play those with a lower number because they are placed above the selected track in the playlist.
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Maybe you could start a thread and propose the function names / parameters you think would be best?
Thanks.
Any progress on this?
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I'm having trouble with JRemote on my iPhone 5. When I select a file, tapping on it does not play the file (it does nothing, just ignores you). I have to long-press and choose Play Now or one of the other options. My wife's 4S with iOS 6 does not exhibit the problem, it is limited (as far as I can tell) to my iPhone 5.
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I'm having trouble with JRemote on my iPhone 5. When I select a file, tapping on it does not play the file (it does nothing, just ignores you). I have to long-press and choose Play Now or one of the other options. My wife's 4S with iOS 6 does not exhibit the problem, it is limited (as far as I can tell) to my iPhone 5.
What's the default action? I assume you've accidentally changed it to add to play list or something instead of play now.
On the iPad there is a button on top of the screen that is only visible when you drill down to an album track list, it allows you to change the default action, not sure where it would be on the iPhone.
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Single tap is working on my end with iPhone 5 and newest JRemote build. I am still on MC17 fwtw.
Good luck,
Patrick
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EJR I had the same issue : trying to connect from outside my network (ie via 3G on the iphone vs wireless) and even though the settings were all correct in the app, I had to delete server and enter IP address manually and then it worked.
Seems the "auto setup" using the key from J River doesn't quite auto enter the Global Access quite right...?
However, I have it working now and am AMAZED at this app - best $10 I've spent in that App store!
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What's the default action? I assume you've accidentally changed it to add to play list or something instead of play now.
On the iPad there is a button on top of the screen that is only visible when you drill down to an album track list, it allows you to change the default action, not sure where it would be on the iPhone.
That's what it was. Somehow it was set to nothing. None of them had the checkbox at all.
I don't think I ever touched that setting, and even if I did, I don't know how it got set to nothing at all. Hmmm... Anyway, thanks.
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Hey guys, I decided to implement some support for liner notes in the next release.
So what I have done so far is add support for opening and viewing pdf files.
I don`t know how you guys use liner notes at the present, but for now you have to do it this way:
1. In JRiver add a customizable view that lists documents. You can filter this to only include pdf files for convenience.
2. In JRemote you have to navigate to this view to find the pdf file and open it.
The better way would be if you could access your notes from the now playing view window. I cant see any way to make this happen at the moment since you cant link a pdf to a specific album or track. Can anyone tell me how Gizmo does it?
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Just purchased j remote and can't connect with my laptop running windows 7. I have seen a few posts on this thread but no real answers can someone help.?
Thanks Cameron
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Just purchased j remote and can't connect with my laptop running windows 7. I have seen a few posts on this thread but no real answers can someone help.?
It is likely the Windows Firewall or another networking problem.
Are you sure that both your iOS device and the laptop are on the same network?
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@toomanybarts glad you got it working it seems you have to manually add the port number in the external address field. indeed its a very nice app :D
@camross like glynor said it is highly likle a network issue what is the specific error you're getting?
if both devices are on your home network try to disable your firewall and see if it works. if it does work MC needs to be added to the programs that are allowed internet access in your firewall settings.
from outside if you use a router you have to open the port you choose in MC in the router's settings.
I've been using JRemote to stream music on 3g. last time I was taking a walk and noticed that after a song ended no new song started when I unlocked my iphone to watch what was going on it started.
i tried waiting a long time to see if it was buffering or streaming related but it didn't start even after a long while but would immediately start when unlocking the iPhone again
does anyone else have this and is there a way to let it play fluently without the pauses?
another thing i noticed
when you search for an artist or album from the search tab and choose play all now the songs are not in the right order is there a way to fix this?
cheers
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I've been using JRemote to stream music on 3g. last time I was taking a walk and noticed that after a song ended no new song started when I unlocked my iphone to watch what was going on it started.
i tried waiting a long time to see if it was buffering or streaming related but it didn't start even after a long while but would immediately start when unlocking the iPhone again
does anyone else have this and is there a way to let it play fluently without the pauses?
I have noticed behavior similar to this. In my situation when I remove something from the earphone port, e.g. my adapter for playing through my car stereo, music stops as it does with the iPod App. But then will then automatically restart replaying again at some point. I have never boiled down what actually makes it restart, but a screen unlock might be the culprit.
I now stop playing manually rather than just rip the cord out.
Ironically I have rarely had this not work though and got replays. Not consistently though.
Strange. I mentioned this in the past somewhere above.
Still best app EVER!
Cheers!
Patrick
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EJR, I had this same issue as well, and never figured it out. I recall I had a workaround, but maybe it is not really a work around and I don't know what I am talking about.
My recollection is I would start playing songs, then press the power button on the phone to lock it, and cram my iphone in my pocket so I could go mow the lawn. If i did this, it would play 1 song and stop. Unlock the phone, press play and away it went for another song.
However if I started playing a song and didn't touch a power button and just crammed it in my pocket it seemed to play songs continuously. Even after the phone would self lock after my 15 minute wait time, it seemed to be ok.
This seems to odd and I think maybe I just got lucky or something, who knows. I just thought I would mention it in case it is a lead to a fix.
Still love the program!
Pete
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thanks for your replies I will try not locking it myself.
update: didn't work for me the play will still stop after each song
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This may have been discussed before, so I apologize if I'm bringing up something old. In "Playing Now" the Metadata and Lyrics don't auto update when the track changes. Is it possible to have this happen?
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Any word on the updated version as noted a while ago:
Here are the highlights of the next version:
bug fixes:
- now playing images not displayed on some zones. (Was actually fixed before, but reappeared)
- Correct order in search results
And new "now playing" options:
- Shuffle playlist
- Clear playlist
- Toggle display of track number vs playlist nr.
- Thumbnails and ratings in list.
The UI is also enhanced, mainly on the iPad version.
Looking forward to the update - especially the now playing changes.
Some other suggestions:
1 - implement Play Doctor interface - not sure if possible but would be cool
2 - update play count/skip count
Also - does anyone have suggestions or a few particular favorite ways for setting up views in Gismo/webremote (that jremote viewing)? Here are a few that I have set up:
Decade/Rating
Catagories in this order:
Year
Rating
Album Artist (auto)
Album
Genre/Rated
Catagories in this order:
Genre
Rating
Album Artist (auto)
Album
Thanks again to LesPaul - wonderful program. And Thanks in advance for any view suggestions.
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I tried to set up views for jremote in the network section of options of MC and initially it worked. I then added some new and nested levels and these don't seem to be picked up by jremote eg under video I want to have a new category called "kids" and under movie I want to have nested sub categories for "watched", "watching" "not watched". All the library fields are set up and I have this view working in theatre view. Instead in jremote I just see the original view I set up in MC options.
Any ideas?
Zeno
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Does JRemote work with MC18???
Dave
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Does JRemote work with MC18???
Dave
Yes. Just fine.
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I tried to set up views for jremote in the network section of options of MC and initially it worked. I then added some new and nested levels and these don't seem to be picked up by jremote eg under video I want to have a new category called "kids" and under movie I want to have nested sub categories for "watched", "watching" "not watched". All the library fields are set up and I have this view working in theatre view. Instead in jremote I just see the original view I set up in MC options.
Any ideas?
Zeno
Under JRemote options, in the app itself, there is a kind of clear cache option that worked for me in similar situations.
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Under JRemote options, in the app itself, there is a kind of clear cache option that worked for me in similar situations.
I saw that but was hesitant at the mention of "clear"! Will give it a whirl tonight
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I tried to set up views for jremote in the network section of options of MC and initially it worked. I then added some new and nested levels and these don't seem to be picked up by jremote eg under video I want to have a new category called "kids" and under movie I want to have nested sub categories for "watched", "watching" "not watched". All the library fields are set up and I have this view working in theatre view. Instead in jremote I just see the original view I set up in MC options.
Any ideas?
Zeno
You have to restart MC for the changes to take effect. Do not forget to close also the media server located in the system tray.
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Thanks. I was about to hit the reset button in MC!
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Hi Lespaul,
I'm still lovin' your app, although I am anxiously awaiting the next release so I can get my cover art back ;D
Is there anyway you can tap into MC's existing learned IR codes and trigger them from JRemote? I'd like to do things like switch sources on my AV processor from within the app. This would eliminate the need to have a physical IR remote and IR repeaters, etc if I want to control my processor (living room) from the garage, which is a second zone on the processor.
Thanks
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Hey guys, It`s been a while.
I submitted the next version yesterday. I was planning to release it earlier, but had to do some other work first.
While I did not plan it, I also ended up spending a lot more time on the interface graphics, most graphics on the dark theme have been replaced, as well as a few on the light theme. The iPhone version also received some care, including a better "now playing" view to make room for a new toolbar when you are looking at the playlist.
One additional feature I included that should have been there from the start is an option to stream all supported formats uncompressed. So if selected, wav, apple lossless, aac and mp3 files will be streamed without conversion. I also changed the info in the "now playing" view to easier see how the current file is streamed.
On the iPad version there is also the ability to click on a cover to open the large version in a view where you can zoom and scroll it. You can do this from the "now playing" screen, the metadata view and the small thumbnail in the main view.
I am now starting on the next version, and there are a few things i need to include that will be a part of MC18.
There will also be editable meta tags and enhanced search functionality. Actually, for search I also need to include the old search, since the new version only work in MC 17. You will be able to toggle the mode, as the old version is better for file searches, since it includes thumbnails and artist/album info.
In addition to the app I have started to work on a manual as well as updating the website.
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All fantastic news. Many thanks Les Paul.
Cheers,
Patrick
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Great news, will wait patiently!
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Great news I am LOVING this app and now use it daily!
I love being able to rate my tunes while streaming - saves me from having to sync unrated songs with my sansa clip (yes I'm a music nerd)
I have a couple of requests if you're taking them...?
1. Would love the ability to go to next track thru swiping the album art with one finger left or right on the "Now Playing" screen.
(I listen to a lot of my music in the car and being able to just swipe the now playing screen left or right to advance or go back a track would be awesome).
2. Any chance of building and saving playlists on the go thru the app? (Not sure if this is even possible).
3. Being able to click on Artist or Genre or any meta data tag actually and being taken to a sort that shows the appropriate selection.
Anyway, LOVE LOVE LOVE what this app is enabling me to do remotely (and even better when at home from my iPad) - thank-you!
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Swiping cover to change tracks is on my to-do list. I nearly added it in this version, but decided to wait because of time issues.
Playlist editing may be possible soon.
I need some more info regarding your third point. On the iPad version you can click on a metadata value to do a search. If you are using the iPhone version, this is not yet implemented. Maybe in a later version I can add this.
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How do I delete a track in playing now.
I selected the wrong track.
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You can't until you are running v18 and LesPaul adds the new API features.
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LesPaul you are the man!
Great news about possible future improvements.
Seriously, I dont think I have appreciated an app more...my use of it "off site" and off wifi has caused me to get a usage warning from AT&T (I'm on unlimited data and they throttle your use after 3Gb)!
Actually all my points were iphone related (I use the ipad vers in the house, but listen a lot more to music in the car on my iPhone during my 60min commute) so I guess I'll have to wait til this feature makes it across from the iPad.
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If only you could list the artist with the song in a search, your app would be the best of the best
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That will be possible when i add back the old search method. The old search is not categorised, but it does include artist and album name, so it is better for file searches.
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Lespaul, will that be in the short term?
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Seriously, I dont think I have appreciated an app more...my use of it "off site" and off wifi has caused me to get a usage warning from AT&T (I'm on unlimited data and they throttle your use after 3Gb)!
I had to up the size of my data plan.
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Will Play Doctor/Car Radio Playlist be a feature in an upcoming release?
Thanks,
Erik
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I think it is up to J River to expose the Play Doctor in a way that JRemote could call it up.
Matt chimed in once that he thought it would be a nice feature. I took this to mean it either is impossible or not likely to happen.
-Patrick
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I couldn't find a response to this elsewhere...
JRemote allows for streaming and playback directly on the Ipad now, correct? If so, will it playback all files types (specifically APE) or is it limited to particular file types?
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Efjay,
MC will stream anything but I think the JRemote app asks MC to transcode to MP3. Currently there are three options (64, 128 and 320 Kbps).
It sounds like an upcoming update will allow full res options. Not sure what it will ask MC to stream.
-Patrick
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LesPaul, thanks a lot for new version.
In the past version with mp3 streaming there was a cache mp3 stack created in MC for every streamed track with jremote, this is not a big deal but is a little annoying. When streaming uncompressed in the new version, stack files are created??
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Yes.... is there a way to not have this cache be saved? Also, are these files actually somewhere on my harddrive? How to delete?
thanks!
Patrick
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Lespaul,
Thanks so much for a great product. It really is fantastic.
A couple of feature suggestions, for what they're worth (Sorry if these have already been suggested!)
1. Keyboard on iphone/ipad. When i'm in theater view if I want to do a search, say in the netflix area, I have to go to another app to get the iphone/ipad keyboard.
2. Switch audio streams on a video file. This may be something that MC has to do directly, but it would be awesome if there was a way in now playing to select among the various audio streams on a video file. For mkv movies, I have to use a mouse to right click and then select a stream if I want one that isn't default. The same for enabling and disabling captions.
Thanks!
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Apple is really taking their sweet time getting this out. It's been almost ten days :-(
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It's out now!
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Sorry about this, but I'm too tired to wade through 14 pages here to see if it's been asked and answered already....
Is jpg playback on the iPad supported? I cannot seem to get it to work.
Won't play mkv files. Fair enough, it offers info saying only mpeg-4 supported... Can't MC convert and serve like it should do for Gizmo?
Either way, When I point it at m4v or mp4 movie files (they're mpeg-4 aren't they?), they don't play, the playing now screen flashes up, and immediately returns to the file selection screen.
-marko
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Hi Marko, i am not sure what you mean by jpg playback, are you talking about images?
I have not been able to get JRiver to transcode to a format that iOS will play, so at the moment only uncompressed mp4 files are supported.
Regarding your problem, iOS is quite picky about how the mp4 file is encoded. I personally use handbrake to encode video files to make sure they are compatible with apple gear.
duskdrums, your first suggestion is a good one, I will include a keyboard in the next release.
As for your second point, I`m pretty sure this is not possible from within JRemote.
Pstockton and sunfire7, JRiver will create duplicate files by default, quite annoying, but I have not found a way to disable this yet.
Of course, if you stream the files uncompressed, this won`t happen. But FLAC files, the most used format in MC i assume, must be transcoded.
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Hi Marko, i am not sure what you mean by jpg playback, are you talking about images?
Yes, photos. I can browse them in thumbnail mode, all the way to the file level, but then, long press>play does nothing. I was hoping to be able to play a slide show of images on the iPad?
-marko
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On browsing an album (with the album title at the top and a list of track underneaths), what causes it to display "Various, Multiple Albums" instead of "[Album Artist], [Album]"?
I have a compilation album (Eurovision Song Contest 2012, which has 2 CDs in it) and all the tracks have different artists, but I've set the Album Artist ("Eurovision Song Contest") and the Album ("2012 - Baku, Azerbaijan") the same for all of the 42 tracks so that it appears as one album. The 2 CDs were ripped separately, obviously, but I've retagged the files so that they appear as one.
The tagging window in MC appears all correct - selecting all 42 tracks shows the Album Artist, Album Artist (auto) and Album all showing the same thing, but the Artist says "(varies)" - which is OK. The Album Type says "Multiple artists (complete)" which is also OK I think. However JRemote is not displaying the Album Artist. It displays "Various" instead, which refers to the individual Artists, and it displays "Multiple Albums":
Various, Multiple Albums
1. Suus [Albania]
2. Woki Mit Deim Popo [Austria]
etc
I expected:
Eurovision Song Contest, 2012 - Baku, Azerbaijan
1. Suus [Albania]
2. Woki Mit Deim Popo [Austria]
etc.
I also get cover art thumbnails to the left of each track whereas on a "normal" album the thumbnails don't appear as it's all the same album.
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Wow! Now Playing on the iPad is MUCH improved! Many thanks, looks really attractive, and easy-to-use transport control.
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It's really great now. The only small thing I hope comes is the ability to remove single items from playing now. I don't know if MC allows this, but it would make it as close to perfect as I would ever need I think :-)
Thanks Lespaul!
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I am now starting on the next version, and there are a few things i need to include that will be a part of MC18.
There will also be editable meta tags and enhanced search functionality.
My first message on the forum, only to say this would be a killer feature!! As a classical music lover I love adding a lot of metadata (performers, style, instruments, year of composition etc etc) and doing this using the iPad interface would be lovely. It would be nice to have some kind of integration with IMSLP.org and display work information, similarly to what is there with last.fm
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1. Another eye candy idea: In Music, when selecting an Album which is an actual album and not a container or folder, J Remote goes onto a new screen which shows the album details at the top and then a list of all the tracks. I've thought it that instead of a new screen being displayed, the album artwork could "maximise" on the same screen, position itself in the centre of the display, then "revolve" as if flipping the album over to view its back cover, and then a list of tracks would be displayed - and this list of tracks then behaves in the same way as the original track listing screen wher you can scroll and select tracks. A swipe on the album would then "minimise" it again, effectively it's the "back" button to return to the album list. Perhaps this mode could be invoked by a swipe on the album rather than a tap - the tap could still go into the original track listing screen if people prefer to use that.
2. I have Thumbnails set as the default view mode, so that I am always viewing by cover art or folder icon etc. AS discussed above, when you reach a list of tracks in Music, the display automatically switches back to a textual list mode. This is fine for music, but not for images or video. For example, if I drill down into a video Genre folder, or any folder that results in more than one video file being displayed, the display still reverts to a textual listing as it would do for music, therefore I lose the nice display of movie cover art! I can manually swtich the view back to Thumbnails but it resets every time. For video and images only, could you ensure that the Thumbnail mode persists even when listing individual files?
3. The new iPad Now Playing display in Portrait mode is gorgeous! But there is no way of getting back to the Playlist without turning the device back to landscape. Could you add a button in the portrait version of Now Playing to toggle between the Playlist and the Track details screen? Or perhaps a simple swipe left or right to toggle the displays. The transport controls top and bottom would remain but the centre portion of the display would toggle between artwork/track details and the Playlist management.
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Hello to all
The ipad app is awesome !!! :) Thanks a lot to the developer :)
Some questions:
- How can I display my PDF liner notes for an album ?
Found out how to (it's a little bit tricky, but it works)
1) In JRiver: Fill the "notes" tag of the music tracks with the same unique name as the notes tag of the PDF file (I use the PDF file name)
2) In the JRemote app: in the "details view" of the track (where you can switch between "metadata" and "Artist bio" select the "notes" tag
3) JRemote does a search of all items in JRiver DB which have this unique "notes" string (in my case the PDF file name) and displays all tracks and also the PDF file :) :) :)
So you can easily jump from an album to the liner notes !
- Can I display more than one cover for an album, maybe switch to the back cover?
(Flac files can have more than one image file embedded ...)
Regards
Eberhard
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Is jpg playback on the iPad supported? I cannot seem to get it to work.
-marko
Marko is correct when trying to display images on "this device" zone. Images do
display on Media Center when using "Player" zone.
Looks like they are being treated like songs. When I open a folder named Album I get
another page with image icons. When I click on an image it opens another level with title
"Various, Multiple Albums/1track".
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Thanks for the new version!
Even when the cover art is huge it is shown in its original resolution and it is not possible to zoom out to see the whole cover art on the iPad screen (I have to hold the "pinch", otherwise the image reverts to its original resolution and I can see only a fraction of the cover art).
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Thanks! Looks good.
In playing now, when choosing metadata there's a view button next to each track. Can you make it so that it switches with the track during so it always shows the metadata for the playing track? We can then still switch to another track using the view button but at least it updates the metadata for the currently playing track.
If possible I would still like to see [Year] in an Album list (not in the cover view, but the 2 list modes) and be able to set a sort method on albums by name and/or year.
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Hi
new to this forum. I was wondering how I can show pdf files with the new version of JRemote. Anyone can help?
Thanks in advance
Enrique
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I am trying to use the JRemote, version 2.15 on my IPad 3 to operate the hard drive on the USB port of my Cisco Router EA4500. I don’t know how to do this or whether it can be done. I assume it can be connected. Both my computers which are directly connected to the router via Ethernet recognize the hard drive. If I can get this to work then, I think (hope) my problems discussed below go away.
Purchased this app a few weeks ago and it worked fine playing music from either computer. Only used it a few times. Since last week I have been having major problems just getting JRemote to work with the computers. I keep getting the message that it is not connected. So I deleted the computer (server) and reinstalled it. Worked for about a minute then stopped again, no connection. Reinstalled it again and I opened JRemote which then closed out in two seconds. Tried this four times with the same result. Reinstalled it again. Now I am seeing music on my other computer not on this computer. Shows at the bottom left of the IPad that it is Player (zone 2) which is correct but none of the albums shown there are on this computer. Very frustrating using this software. No instructions on how to use it so I read every post on this thread. Someone had a similar problem in that he had to reinstall the Access key every time to use it but not known if he resolved his problem.
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Hey, I'm a new bee in forum and posting, but using JRemote for a year. Great app like JRiver is a great programm.
Unfortunaly the newe version crashes down, if I choose "VIDEO" and try to start a film. To get back, I've to close MC17 on notebook, start JRemote on the ipad, choose server an after this I've the "Start screen from JRemote. If I only use music and playlists everything is fine, but crashes down if changing to videa AND choosing a film. Maybe important: The films starts on notebooks but a second later JRemote crashes down on iPad.
I think this must be a bug ... or any other ideas ?
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Hello Lespaul,
first i want to say that the new version is really beautiful!
A very elegant interface combined with high speed - great.
I'm using your app mainly to rate my entire (big) library at the moment.
Therefore i'm interested to move my fingers around on my iPad as little as possible .
Your latest design of the Playing Now window is nearly perfect - except that my fingers have to travel too much :).
Therefore i have a few suggestions to improve the usability of your app.
(http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/08/1895808/6162373863333334.jpg)
- 1 move the position slider to where the volume slider is now
- 2 move the volume slider to where the position slider is now
This won't hurt your design and would make navigation more logical and much easier (i like to listen to various positions in a song, before rating it).
So navigation and rating is in one convenient place.
I'm getting my new iPad mini soon.
The iPad mini will make it harder to hit some details on the screen.
Some little improvements could solve this problem by
- 3 widening the space between the navigation controls
- 4 widening the space between the rating stars
- making the top and bottom area (where the controls live) a little bit higher
This would improve the usability on an iPad mini without using sandpaper to sharpen your fingers, as Steve Jobs once proposed :).
I hope this would not be too much work for the next release of your fine app.
Fred.
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Hi Lespaul,
Very nice improvements!
Would it be possible to toggle or slide the list in Playing Now out of view so only the cover art section shows, centered?
Thanks
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I am trying to use the JRemote, version 2.15 on my IPad 3 to operate the hard drive on the USB port of my Cisco Router EA4500.
What do you mean by "operate"?
JRemote is a remote control for MC. It operates a running instance of MC, it does not know anything about the hard drives that its media files are stored on.
If your media files in your MC library is stored on your router-connected drive (as a network share) then JRemote does not need to know anything about the hard drive. You are communicating with MC, and it's MC that reads the hard drive. This is transparent to JRemote.
I'm also confused by the description of your problem. It sounds like you are connecting to one PC but seeing the library of the other one. This could occur if one PC is connected to a remote library. Remember that MC is a client/server system One copy can connect to another copy and they can see each other's libraries. Go to the PC that you want to connect to and make sure it has been set up with a local library and that it is not connected to the library of the other PC (they appear under Playing Now zones). If the albums shown on that PC are not on that PC, where exactly are they coming from?
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Yes.... is there a way to not have this cache be saved? Also, are these files actually somewhere on my harddrive? How to delete?
thanks!
Patrick
I disabled the cache folders in MC.
options > file locations > conversion cache - audio Cache Location: none (do not create cache)
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Great new version.
fred... I like your suggestions
Dave
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I disabled the cache folders in MC.
options > file locations > conversion cache - audio Cache Location: none (do not create cache)
Awesome!!! Many thanks!
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Am I missing something?? I do not see how to edit or delete specific items from a playlist. Has this function been added yet?
I only see the button that completely wipes the playlist,
Also, what are the two left most buttons at the top. They only seem to add or remove the "." after the track numbers.
Nice shuffle feature!
Thanks LesPaul!
Patrick
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I disabled the cache folders in MC.
options > file locations > conversion cache - audio Cache Location: none (do not create cache)
When I stated "operate" I meant to access it. How do I enter the info so that MC is from the HD on the network router. I tried to add "new library" under Play Now. It required an access code but I don't have one for the router so I entered the computer access key. Then below that I scrolled to the the library location but it stated I couldn't add a library.
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I think rating songs on iphone is broken? I have a playlist with unrated songs. When I rate song #1 in Now Playing say to 5 stars, once it has finished playing, song #2 starts. this song should be unrated, except it is also showing as having 5 stars. I override it and rate it 4, the song ends and song #3 starts and guess what? It is rated 4 stars already.
When I get back home and look at my Media Center on my PC, none of the ratings have been transferred to the PC!
It is the same issues whether listening via wifi on same network or streaming to iphone at work (ie not on same home wifi network as Media center on PC).
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Lespaul, I love the changes in the new version, GUI is perfect now.
Pstockton and sunfire7, JRiver will create duplicate files by default, quite annoying, but I have not found a way to disable this yet.
Of course, if you stream the files uncompressed, this won`t happen. But FLAC files, the most used format in MC i assume, must be transcoded.
To be clear, in the new version, when playing an mp3/aac/wav on "this device" it will stream uncompressed, without leaving a cache file, but flac files must be transcoded? Why not stream uncompressed as well?
Also, I already have an mp3 lame -v2 stacked to my flacs, and when streaming it does a 320kbps version again and leaves the cache. Why not streaming the already stacked mp3 -v2 version?
Thanks for all your hard work
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flac files must be transcoded? Why not stream uncompressed as well?
iOS does not support FLAC
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Hi, I have just recently bought JRemote and I like it a lot.
I am primarily using it on my private iPad (iPad 2 with iOS 6.0.1)both at home and away from home. Haven't had any problems with it really.
However, now I am trying to connect to my MC on a second iPad (also iPad 2 and iOs 6.0.1) and every time I try to connect to the server it crashes.
So, I start it up and go to the Settings.
I press the "Add a new JRiver Media Center server"
I press the "Connect with access key"
Enter my access key and my username and password.
Finally pressing "Add and Connect"
JRemote will spin the wheel for a few seconds, and then close down.
Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
I have restarted the iPad.
I have removed JRemote and reinstalled it.
But still same thing..
On the same iPad, MyRiver is running without problems.
TIA
/Fridden
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I think rating songs on iphone is broken? I have a playlist with unrated songs. When I rate song #1 in Now Playing say to 5 stars, once it has finished playing, song #2 starts. this song should be unrated, except it is also showing as having 5 stars. I override it and rate it 4, the song ends and song #3 starts and guess what? It is rated 4 stars already.
When I get back home and look at my Media Center on my PC, none of the ratings have been transferred to the PC!
It is the same issues whether listening via wifi on same network or streaming to iphone at work (ie not on same home wifi network as Media center on PC).
Came here to post exactly this. Ratings worked great on the previous version (the reason I bought JRemote) but they appear broken now. I notice the exact same behavior as this poster on my iPhone.
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...be able to set a sort method on albums by name and/or year.
Is there any reason why you don't want to do this server-side by configuring your Gizmo views?
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Also, what are the two left most buttons at the top. They only seem to add or remove the "." after the track numbers.
I think these toggle between showing the track numbers of the original file and their positions alphabetically?
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When I stated "operate" I meant to access it. How do I enter the info so that MC is from the HD on the network router. I tried to add "new library" under Play Now. It required an access code but I don't have one for the router so I entered the computer access key. Then below that I scrolled to the the library location but it stated I couldn't add a library.
You can't access an external disk nor a router as a media source from MC. You can only access MC itself and its library. If MC's library contains all the media files that on on your external disk then you are in effect accessing the disk.
Have you imported/ripped all the media files from the external disk into MC's library?
It would help if you go into MC and rename the server/library so that it's easy to see what you're connecting to. By default, it's just called "Player" or somethinglike that which is ambiguous when you see that word on different machines. Go to the top of the Playing Now tree , right-click in the default entry, and rename it to be the name of that PC. Tell us what you've called it. Then do the same thing for any other PCs where you are running MC, then use those names when you're describing your problems so we now exactly which PCs' libraries you are seeing.
If you have two PCs, both running MC and both with Media Network switched on, both should automatically appear as Zones. In JRemote, both will appear as servers to connect to. You might need to use the Access Key method to connect, if connecting via IP address doesn't work.
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iOS does not support FLAC
I know that, but it I think stream uncompressed instead of encoded to mp3 is better or at least must be optional? re-read my post please
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In the "Playing Now" screen this new version 2.15 seems to shuffle between two album cover pictures: 1 is the actual album cover pic (which is always the first to come up) and the other is a blank album cover pic with a musical key. It does this for every song. I tried "deleting cache" and that didn't help. When it goes to shuffle between cover arts the progress bar and volume bar moves, usually to the beginning and the pause button will have a light blue circle around it (but the song doesn't pause), the bars then jump back to the most forward position. It gives me the impression it might be polling or querying, but that's just a guess on my part. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix?
I do love the new look. Thanks
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Hi Lespaul
the position slider isn't working for me on the main screen, I have an Ipad 2. It just skips to the end. It dosen't even show the seeking times. The slider works fine in playing now though.
Thanks
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the position slider isn't working for me on the main screen, I have an Ipad 2. It just skips to the end. It dosen't even show the seeking times. The slider works fine in playing now though.
I know, this is a bug, and is fixed for the next release.
Also, what are the two left most buttons at the top. They only seem to add or remove the "." after the track numbers.
This will toggle between showing track number or playlist number. If you have a single album in the playlist you wont see any change. Try it with a longer list or a shuffled list and you will see the difference.
Also, I already have an mp3 lame -v2 stacked to my flacs, and when streaming it does a 320kbps version again and leaves the cache. Why not streaming the already stacked mp3 -v2 version?
Make sure that "Stream mp3, aac, m4a and wav files uncompressed" is checked in settings. If this is not selected, every file regardless of format will be transcoded.
Fred1, I appreciate your suggestions. The reason I placed the volume control at the bottom was because i assumed this was more used than the progress bar. What is the general opinion on this, should they switch location?
I am preparing a new version to be submitted later today, should fix all problems reported so far.
- Limited ability to zoom on large cover art
- Weird scrolling behavior in setting panels
- Progress bar on main screen not working
- Regular images (not cover art), when tapped, will now open the image viewer.
- Rating problems on iphone
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Great news on ratings on iphone being fixed - Thank You!
re Fred1's suggestions - moving the progress bar to the bottom is fine by me...more likely I'll want to change that setting than volume anyway.
Any news on when "car-friendly" controls could be implemented - I'm referring to the swipe full screen to advance or go back a track?
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The reason I placed the volume control at the bottom was because i assumed this was more used than the progress bar. What is the general opinion on this, should they switch location?
Yes, I think the volume control belongs at the top and the seek bar at the bottom with the transport controls.
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Is there a way to do the following: On JRiver, I sort by Album Artist but display Artist under my thumbnails. So, I have "Petty, Tom" as Album Artist so he appears in P, but have "Tom Petty", my Artist field (via thumbnail text) display. Is there a way to customize the view in JRemote? I've tried to change the view to show Artist but sort by Album Artist but that hasn't worked. It seems I can either sort correctly but it displays as Petty, Tom or sort by name which shows Tom Petty with the T's. Any help is appreciated.
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I just wanted to be the 700th reply to this mondo-thread.
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[I am preparing a new version to be submitted later today, should fix all problems reported so far.
- Limited ability to zoom on large cover art
- Weird scrolling behavior in setting panels
- Progress bar on main screen not working
- Regular images (not cover art), when tapped, will now open the image viewer.
- Rating problems on iphone]
Hi LesPaul,
if you're fixing bugs, please don't forget the bug with choosing a video. I've already psted before, but for better information I'll describe again:
I use an iPad 2 (6.01), MC 17.189, Win 7/64 bit an JRemote 2.15. Since JRemote 2.15 I've the problem, that JRemote crashes down by choosing an videofile. The video starts in MC 17, but JRemote crashes immidiatly. To start JRemote successfully again, I've to close MC 17, start JRemote on the iPad (of course JRemote can't connect to server), then start MC17 again on the notebook and afterwards connecting JRemote with the server.
In Music and playlists everthing works fine and stable, btw: Great, fantastic app !!
Do you have any ideas to this bug ?
Best regards from Michael
(Sorry about my "German-English" :))
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Hello, JRiver together with JRemote is awesome!
only some features in JRemote are missing.
1. an option to set up a individual timeout while connecting to Media Center. (My PC wakes up (wake on lan) in about 20 seconds, in the meantime JRemote becomes a timeout.)
2. add current playing song to new or existing playlist.
3. General editing and creating playlists
are you planning to build this features?
regards faster
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Yes, I think the volume control belongs at the top and the seek bar at the bottom with the transport controls.
PS. Also wanted to add, on the standalone Now Playing screen in Portrait mode wioth the large cover art (which looks gorgeous, BTW!), maybe the position slider should occupy a line of its own at the bottom, across the whole width of the screen. This is to allow better fine-positioning and "resolution" for long tracks or large videos/movies. the transport controls (bac, prev, stop, pause) should then be centered above this.
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Hmmm... recently I upgraded to window 8 (for no real good reason, I supposed) and MC 18 and I am having one problem.
With Win7/MC 17, I was able to create customized view list such that in that particular list, I would have all classical music and it would be sorted first by composer then album. Similar list for opera, etc. Then I have a pop music list which would be sorted artists first then album etc. On JRemote, on the front page where click audio, then you get a column on the left hand side with audio, artist, album, recent, genre, composer etc, the customized view list would also appears there so it is very easy for me to sort through my music quickly depeding on what type it is.
Now in JRMC18, I created the same customized view list and it appears on JRMC18 where it supposes to but does not show up on JRemote
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This is the view I get on JMRC18. 2 customized view I did was for classical and choral.
(http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k485/ballade1/jriver.jpg)
This is the colume that is shown on JRemote and no customized view tab
To be honest, I could not remember excactly how I created customized view in JRMC17 since I found it a long time ago. I think it was somewhere in tool/option. However, I could not find it in JRMC18 but I was able to create it by right click on Audio tab but it was not exactly intuitive to get that created.
Anyhow... I wonder if anyone has similar problem and found a solution to what I should do exactly?
Thanks for your help.
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Hi Lespaul I rather like the view style for metadata, although I don't search metadata too often.. Could it be a possibility to have this style for the main views as well.
It would be so much nicer for my Album Artist/Album view as I could see all the tracks for all the albums for a particular artist simultaneously, instead of going up & down the hierarchy to switch albums. I have a funny feeling this isn't possible :(
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Cheers
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Hmmm... recently I upgraded to window 8 (for no real good reason, I supposed) and MC 18 and I am having one problem.
With Win7/MC 17, I was able to create customized view list ...
Opps, never mind, I just figured out to add customized view that I made in webgizmo view as well ( well actually, somebody else told me that) so problem solved.
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Just a quick one before I buy - can JRemote stream to a renderer - so I can use it topick the movie I want and then send it on to my oppo 103?
Cheers
Stuart
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Hi
Couple of points.
1) Is there any chance that you can provide additional controls for DVD playback? Its great you can select movies using JRemote but not great you can't control them. Maybe its a JRiver thing.
2) Purley a matter of taste this but after updating I notice that the now playing screen shows thumbnails nexxt to the tracks. Really looks a mess. Much neater to not have thumbnails here.
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This is such a great app but no playlist editing/saving via ipad etc. why not?
(unless I'm mistaken or blind?)
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Lespaul: Love the new now playing, this was a much needed change :)
Will you pleaseeeeee add support for dynamic playlists? It would give jremote a much more engaging function - to be able to do things like "send-to > playlist xyz". It would open up so many possibilities for everyone.. PLEASE!!
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This is such a great app but no playlist editing/saving via ipad etc. why not?
(unless I'm mistaken or blind?)
Some of the limitation of the app is because a limitation in the JRiver web api, but don't worry the devs are working on it
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Just a quick one before I buy - can JRemote stream to a renderer - so I can use it topick the movie I want and then send it on to my oppo 103?
Yes, effectively it will do this. But note, just so that there's no misunderstanding, JRemote will not itself stream to a renderer. It is a remote control for MC and displays all the zones that the running copy of MC can see and allows you to change the zone, and if you select an external DLNA renderer then it is the running copy of MC that streams to the renderer not JRemote. Therefore if you have any trouble "seeing" or streaming to a renderer, your problem is likely to be with the PC that is running MC, not JRemote.
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It would help if you go into MC and rename the server/library so that it's easy to see what you're connecting to. By default, it's just called "Player" or somethinglike that which is ambiguous when you see that word on different machines. Go to the top of the Playing Now tree , right-click in the default entry, and rename it to be the name of that PC. Tell us what you've called it. Then do the same thing for any other PCs where you are running MC, then use those names when you're describing your problems so we now exactly which PCs' libraries you are seeing.
If you have two PCs, both running MC and both with Media Network switched on, both should automatically appear as Zones. In JRemote, both will appear as servers to connect to. You might need to use the Access Key method to connect, if connecting via IP address doesn't work.
Csimon thank you for helping me with this. I have been away and I have just returned. I have two computers that I want to use the IPad to access the music files on the Hard Drive connected to the router. From your response somehow I have to identify this as a library and load it. Both computers have music files on them which I am thinking of deleting to eliminate confusion as to where the music is coming from and have it play from the Hard Drive.
The first computer is in the living room is a Rain Recording Ion computer with the name Ion-Rain. It is hard wired to the router via Ethernet. It has no wireless card in it. I only use this as music server and it has no other applications on it but Media Center 17. When I turn on the computer it opens to Media Center 17.
When I opened Media Center 17 it states: Media Center at the top in the middle. (After playing some music on my other computer it states Paul PC:Paul PC as the Library.)
Under Playing Now are the following:
1. A blue arrow named Overview. Within this are three columns: J Play, Player (current) and Paul PC-: Paul PC The first two columns each have Play Doctor at the top and a music file at the bottom of the screen.
2. A grey arrow named JPlay: This also has Play Doctor at the top and a music file at the bottom
3. A grey arrow named Player. This also has Play Doctor at the top and a music file at the bottom
4. A grey arrow named Paul PC: Paul PC. Play Doctor at the top and at the bottom it states: There are no files to play. (Now it states Library Server after I started playing music on Paul PC. )
5. Yellow folder that states Playing from Main Library. Below this says it a local library with address as C:\Users\Rain\App Data\Roaming\J River\Media Center\Library
6. HP, my laptop which I won’t be accessing any music from this. States HP:Music Remote is a DLNA Library and it is not loaded.
I had downloaded J Play six months ago for a trial period. Haven’t tried to use it so it should be deleted somehow.
The second computer is Paul PC in the basement . It is a Dell XPS 2710 and connects wirelessly to the router which is about three feet away. When I open Media Center 17 it states Media Center Paul PC.
Under Playing Now are the following:
1. Grey arrow with Paul PC, Play Doctor at top and two music files at bottom.
2. Yellow folder that states Playing from Main Library. Below a green arrow indented that states Main Library. This says it a local library with address as C:\Users\Paul\App Data\Roaming\J River\Media Center\Library. It has 3,000 files and says that it is loaded. Then another indented grey arrow that states HP and it states it is a DLNA library that is not loaded. Then another indented grey arrow that states Paul PC: Paul and it states it is a DLNA library that is not loaded.
As write this the hard drive is not connected to the router so the files in the main library must be the files on Paul PC. As you can see everything is screwed up at this time. Is there a way to start over.
Also the JRemote app is now working to access the music on Paul PC. This is an awesome application. I have been waiting years for something like this. Hopefully with some help, I soon will be able to access all my ripped CDs and DVDs. I think I have about 700.
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I searched through and read the majority of this thread, but apologies in advance if this was already covered. I was contemplating purchasing this app to use on my iPad, but there is one item that I've been dying to have and I don't see any mention in this thread. Is there any coverage of television with this app?
What I would like to have is a graphical listing, like the guide listing in theater view, on my iPad while watching TV on my big screen. This way I could have the TV Guide in my lap and see what is on without having to back out of the TV display in theater view, scroll to the appropriate time, etc. I'm doubting this is included in this app, but for $10, I wanted to inquire before purchasing if any attention has been given towards TV.
Thanks!
--Ryan
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buy the app... love it.
THEN come in and ask for features.
It is everything you want and more.... best app out there.
-Patrick
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buy the app... love it.
THEN come in and ask for features.
It is everything you want and more.... best app out there.
-Patrick
+1000000
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buy the app... love it.
THEN come in and ask for features.
It is everything you want and more.... best app out there.
It is $10. $10. Really? You cant spend $10? Come on!
-Patrick
It's not that I can't spend $10, but when it's $10 more than anything else I've ever downloaded from the App Store, I'd like to know more about it first. Like if it supports anything around TV programing. I wouldn't exactly call my post a request for features, more of an inquiry. I didn't see a better place to ask.
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Hello,
i quote my self: would it be possible to implement Feature 1?
regards faster
Hello, JRiver together with JRemote is awesome!
only some features in JRemote are missing.
1. an option to set up a individual timeout while connecting to Media Center. (My PC wakes up (wake on lan) in about 20 seconds, in the meantime JRemote becomes a timeout.)
2. add current playing song to new or existing playlist.
3. General editing and creating playlists
are you planning to build this features?
regards faster
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buy the app... love it.
THEN come in and ask for features.
It is everything you want and more.... best app out there.
-Patrick
Absolutely!
It strikes me though that adding to this app's functionality is never-ending, to the point where it becomes a complete MC client in its own right, like running MC on iOS. There are already discussions in the main threads about providing a Gizmo-like app for Windows 8 tablets - but since it's Windows itself it's not a huge step of the imagination to implement a Metro-centric version of the MC client. People do want tablet and touch control over their media distribution and playing systems, rather than a keyboard and a mouse at a computer, and to that end I do feel that the team's focus on creating a Mac version of the software is somewhat misdirected, where a more forward-thinking solution would be back-ends that run on a computer or NAS together with various flavours of clients on a multitude of platforms. But that's just my opinion!
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Yes, I think the volume control belongs at the top and the seek bar at the bottom with the transport controls.
+1
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It's not that I can't spend $10, but when it's $10 more than anything else I've ever downloaded from the App Store, I'd like to know more about it first. Like if it supports anything around TV programing. I wouldn't exactly call my post a request for features, more of an inquiry. I didn't see a better place to ask.
My point is that it is $10. Regardless of its features, you want it. It is simply awesome. Nothing compares.
What is $10??? If i knew you I would give you $10 without batting an eye.
-Patrick
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Hi LesPaul,
if you're fixing bugs, please don't forget the bug with choosing a video. I've already psted before, but for better information I'll describe again:
I use an iPad 2 (6.01), MC 17.189, Win 7/64 bit an JRemote 2.15. Since JRemote 2.15 I've the problem, that JRemote crashes down by choosing an videofile. The video starts in MC 17, but JRemote crashes immidiatly. To start JRemote successfully again, I've to close MC 17, start JRemote on the iPad (of course JRemote can't connect to server), then start MC17 again on the notebook and afterwards connecting JRemote with the server.
In Music and playlists everthing works fine and stable, btw: Great, fantastic app !!
Do you have any ideas to this bug ?
Best regards from Michael
(Sorry about my "German-English" :))
Hi Lespaul,
I've just updated to 2.16, but the bug described above still exists. It would nice to get a comment from you. No one else has an idea. Thanks and regards from
Michael
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Hi Michael, is this a problem with all your videos?
As I have noted before, iOS is quite picky about how the file is encoded.
Of course, JRemote should not crash, but it could be because the internal player of iOS is crashing.
Please try a file that you know works on iOS devices. Could you also please send me a sample file that causes JRemote to crash?
I have registered that not everyone is pleased about thumbnails in the now playing window. I am adding a toggle for it.
It is not allowed to talk about the new feature in MC18, but I guess I can say that some of your wishes will come true with that version.
Faster:
1. an option to set up a individual timeout while connecting to Media Center. (My PC wakes up (wake on lan) in about 20 seconds, in the meantime JRemote becomes a timeout.)
I can add this, could be useful.
BTW, is there any interest in a windows 8 store app?
I am considering doing a version just to learn the framework.
c# and .net is my day job, so it would not be too much of a stretch.
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Lespaul,
There is plenty of empty space on an ipad, would it be possible to add the 'year' to album views and a toggle to sort on it?
Thanks.
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The problem with album views is that you only get back a single name from the MC web service. No additional details.
So no, that is not possible at this time.
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Aw, that's a shame.
Thanks.
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Ryan, there is no such option to see a "TV Guide" within this app. I'd love it if it did but that may come at a later time. The other features it has are very nice and I can attest like the others that the app is well worth the cash. I mostly use it to remote control my music system but also play tunes to it while driving and what not. To me that is worth the money alone.
Hope that helps!
Pete
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Hi, I´m new to the forum, I have been using JRemote for a bit over a week now and find it works really well, it´s an amazing and very quick app. Nevertheless I ran into a problem with a music album, it´s flac, and every time I try to play it using JRemote either from my iPad or iPhone, the app crashes. I can play it using JRiver MC, and it works fine, but as soon as I try to select any song from it using JRemote, it crashes, not once I choose it in MC, but if I try going to it from any other artist it crashes. This is really weird as I re-ripped the album, verified the tracks were all fine, as I said they are Flac, I see no difference between this album and all the other ones I have, eother in tags or anything else. I am using Win8, on a normal PC. All else works very well, but this one album just makes the app crash for some reason.
Anyway, I hope someone can suggest a solution.
Thanks,
Manuel
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Hi Lespaul,
Thanks for your posting.
The problem exists with all my video files. I've only bdmv (BluRay) and iso (DVD). I can't send a file to you, because the files are huge. But I've noticed something interesting.
Some video files are rated by me. The BluRay "The help" gets 4 stars. So it appears under "Playlists", exactly "smartlists" here "4 or 5 stars rated". If I start this video from this point, JR keeps stable. If I start the same video from "All (Date of import), the video starts in MC but JR crashes down immidiatly like described before.
For your information: Our second ipad2 has also JR in 2.06 and everything works fine. This device has also IOS 6.01. And we have an iPod 4 with JR 2.16 and also IOS 6.01 - here works everything fine too.
I hope, that helps for locating the bug.
Cheers,
Michael
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BTW, is there any interest in a windows 8 store app?
I am considering doing a version just to learn the framework.
c# and .net is my day job, so it would not be too much of a stretch.
Absolutely, as long as it's RT/Arm compatible.
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Hi, I´m new to the forum, I have been using JRemote for a bit over a week now and find it works really well, it´s an amazing and very quick app. Nevertheless I ran into a problem with a music album, it´s flac, and every time I try to play it using JRemote either from my iPad or iPhone, the app crashes. I can play it using JRiver MC, and it works fine, but as soon as I try to select any song from it using JRemote, it crashes, not once I choose it in MC, but if I try going to it from any other artist it crashes. This is really weird as I re-ripped the album, verified the tracks were all fine, as I said they are Flac, I see no difference between this album and all the other ones I have, eother in tags or anything else. I am using Win8, on a normal PC. All else works very well, but this one album just makes the app crash for some reason.
Anyway, I hope someone can suggest a solution.
Thanks,
Manuel
Hi, i just want to thank Robert Ryan for his very quick reply, the problem was that the specific album had a 0 (zero) as album date, and for some reason it has to be either a blank or any other number except zero. Now everything is back to working perfectly. Thanks again !!! and congratulations on an awesome app
Manuel
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Thanks for fixing the seeker.
Got a couple of suggestions, love the alphabetical scroll thingy, works like a dream. Would it be possible to add a toggle button somewhere to make it switch to a regular scroll bar? In my view for albums sorted by import date the alphabetical one doesn't really work at all and it would be nice to be able to scroll more quickly rather than swiping lots. (Maybe it could remember toggle setting for subviews just like it already remembers if it is an album view or list view)
It would also be nice in in the options there were an option to add custom caption for audio tracks that would appear where it is circled in red in the image (Edit probably better right aligned closer to the track duration). Then we could add some extra fields ourselves such as style, last played, number plays etc.
Thanks
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Getting message, "Connection failure," Could not connect with server. If I add a new JRiver Media center with the same access key it will connect. So this can not be a firewall issue or it would not connect at all? When I set up a "new" media center, it works for awhile and then goes back to not connecting. Also if I delete the app and re-install it and re-enter the information it will also work, for awhile.
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I am loving the app to control streaming movies to my oppo 105 via JRiver.
One request - could we make it so the pop up menu you get when you hold over a movie also contains the options to display the metadata so we can read the synopsis etc - then it would be perfect :-)
Also I am sure I am missing this but cant see the search function to find a specific movie?
Thanks
Stuart
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One problem and one suggestion:
1) When viewing tags, the tag Name rather than tag Display is used. This is not consistent with how MC displays tags. Tags should always use their Display name.
2) Would you please consider adding a button to video views for displaying only mp4 videos? Since mp4 is the only video type that will play on "This Device" zone it is helpful to filter only mp4s. I have done this manually by adding an mp4 filter to each of my 10 custom video views but it is a little clunky because I have to click through this filter every time I navigate my videos. It would be much better to have a single global filter that can be turned on and off. An alternate solution might be an option that displays only mp4 in This Device zone.
Great app! Thanks.
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Can some one please guide to the correct thread/sub forum etc. for issues with jremote. (yet again)
It was working fine last night but now there is no access via the ipad. "connection failure"
The ipad's browser/email/app store etc. is still working but rremote can't connect.
Checked the computer and it's functioning fine, the servers still on the network and accessible.
This is the 2nd time in as many days. I re-installed jremote to resolve this last time. Surely can'y keep doing that though.
Regards.
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M2P, this is likely because your computers IP address has changed. Get the ip address from your computer and replace the address
in JRemote (the blue arrow to the right of the saved server).
I have made a change in the next version where JRemote will try to fetch an updated IP address if the connection fails.
This will only work if you use access key for connecting, but it will solve problems like these.
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Can some one please guide to the correct thread/sub forum etc. for issues with jremote. (yet again)
It was working fine last night but now there is no access via the ipad. "connection failure"
The ipad's browser/email/app store etc. is still working but rremote can't connect.
Checked the computer and it's functioning fine, the servers still on the network and accessible.
Sounds a lot like this problem:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=75609.msg515818#msg515818
That problem was apparently caused by an AntiVirus program.
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M2P, this is likely because your computers IP address has changed. Get the ip address from your computer and replace the address
in JRemote (the blue arrow to the right of the saved server).
I have made a change in the next version where JRemote will try to fetch an updated IP address if the connection fails.
This will only work if you use access key for connecting, but it will solve problems like these.
Mine was doing the same thing. Checked IP address and it had changed. Input correct IP address and it connected promptly.
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Hi:
I am not sure if someone has already asked the question.
How can I increase the thumbnail size while browsing albums? At this moment, I see five thumbnails per horizontal line in JRemote. I want to increase the thumbnail size as to see four bigger thumbnails per horizontal line.
Regards
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I just set up views for documents and did some testing. I am really impressed. I can now use your app for all data types.
One problem and two suggestions for "Media Type=data" files:
1) Tags do not display (tags display correctly for video, audio, and images)
2) Attempting to view a non-supported file type does nothing. I think it would be better to display a message saying the file type is not supported (just like you do for video).
3) Perhaps someday we might be able to set up application associations for file types. For example, pdf and txt should open in GoodReader, ePub in iBooks, and htm and mht in Mercury.
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JRemote is crashing on me when I go to the Now Playing screen. Working fine otherwise. It kicks me out to the apps screen on my IPad. Any ideas?
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im having similar crashing problems on iphone when connecting remotely (not within wifi network). Now playing just suddenly stops after a few mins and then just sits there frozen and then app crashes out.
I've shut down all other apps and rebooted iPhone, but still get the same issue.
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LesPaul,
I am getting a fair amount of crashes as well. Not a big deal and only seems to happen with large MC playlists, e.g. shuffling a whole genre.
Also, playing to the device off network seems to stop playback more than usual. The app doesn't crash, it simply stops. When playback stops when remotely streaming it tends to happen after every song, never in the middle of a song. A pause, then play usually starts it back up. It seems to happen less often when I do not sleep the screen.
Lastly, one annoying thing that has always seemed to happen is actual crashing when creating a playlist on the device, when remotely streaming. When it does, you lose the entire playlist you were working on. Say I am listening to an album then start adding songs by "Play Next" and/or "Add to playlist", it crashes after get 10 or 12 entries in there. When you reopen the app the Playing Now playlist is empty.
Would there be a way for JRemote to cache the playlist so when it crashes. Also, would it be possible for JRemote to remember the "Playing Now" playlist when you shut down the app?
Lastly, is there a way to save the Playing Now playlist to the MC server?
Thanks a bunch!
Patrick
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It seems I've lost the bitrate/sampling freq/# of channels info in Playing Now view. It's there but the values are "0".
I'm still not able to determine the usefulness of tapping the cover art and it zooming to an overlay which you have to close, seems a bit awkward. I think a function like that would be better served if the cover art tap was a toggle that hid the track list and moved the enlarged pic to the middle of the screen along with artist/title info, sort of like a "Track Info" vis in MC. Tap the cover art again and it returns to the "Playing Now" screen as it exists now.
Thanks!
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echoing what pcstockton says - playing either in background (say with Waze GPS app open in front) or indeed with screen off but app in foreground seems to increase crash frequency.
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just to clarify.... it is not crashing, it is just stopping between songs. And only when streaming to "this device", when off network.
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Its crashing for me. Crashes out to home screen. It is still showing as running in the background, when I select the icon after dbl clicking home button, I get taken back to "select media server" screen.
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I'm getting lots of crashes with the latest version on my iPad. It usually happens when I connect to the PC, but it has happened at other points.
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I am using JRemote on an iPhone - great product BTW 8)
With the recent ZoneSwitch function, JRemote does not track the zone change in JRMC18. You have to manually change the target zone in JRemote to match, so that you can control the volume.
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It is still showing as running in the background, when I select the icon after dbl clicking home button, I get taken back to "select media server" screen.
Just a quick tip that has nothing to do with your particular issue: Double-clicking the home button does not do what you think it does.
When applications show there, it does not mean it is "running in the background". It just means that the application has been used recently. That is a "most recently used apps" list, not a "running in the background" list.
Now, those apps may (or may not be) still actively running. If they are, you can force them to quit by going into "jiggle mode" and hitting the little minus next to the app in question (this also clears out the restore state even for apps that have shut down). But iOS does not directly expose a "currently running processes" function, like the Task Manager in Windows or top on Unix, unless you jailbreak.
There is a lot of misinformation about this around, including sometimes from the "geniuses" at the Apple Stores (though they've corrected their tune more recently since there was all kinds of kerfuffle about this). To be completely clear: Whether an app shows in that task switcher or not, has NO BEARING on whether it is still running and using RAM or CPU time. You do NOT ever have to manually close applications on iOS during normal everyday operation. The OS does that for you automatically. The main thing the "jiggle" mode in the switcher is useful for is to clear the "restore state" for an application that got stuck in an unusable state, and you just want it to go back to the "default". Apps can have restore states persist even through reboots and stuff. This does not mean they are relaunched after reboot. They just save their restore state out to "disk" (the flash storage they have to use on the device).
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More details for the curious:
http://speirs.org/blog/2012/1/2/misconceptions-about-ios-multitasking.html
http://speirs.org/blog/2012/1/6/ios-multitasking-in-detail.html
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Hi. I'm loving the app. Just wondering about a likely bug. When I press on the add track button on the top left it brings down the pulldown menu of add track options. But then I'm stuck in it and can't back out without having to shut down the app and restart it.
Thanks!
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Hello all, I am a heavy user and a happy one. One more feature request :)
It would be very usefull if we could filter one or more items from tags like genre, artists and keywords. I have many entries in video and photos. I am still waiting for full support of photos, I have 26.000+ photos all organized with collectorz and JRiver.
I propose again for a new payed version in order to further finance your excellend work
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glynor - thanks for clarification on my nomenclature and for helping me understand a little better how apps may or may not be running in background.
Still, the issues persist - hoping to hear from lespaul on a possible fix, as at the moment, this crashing is making the app useless for me unfortunately.
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Not sure what has happend, but JRemote is crashing almost immediately when started. I have tried connecting to two different computers, each with there own library. I have also tried deleting the server and creating a new and a creating a new access key in JRiver, but it still crashes.
JRemote ver. 2.16
JRiver ver. 18.0.94
I have a friend running the same version of JRemote and MC 17.0.189 with exactly the same problem.
Has anybody seen this or any ideas on how to fix it? Just tries My River and that works.
TLS
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Thank you. This was the issue and it is now resolved and understood.
Regards
M2P, this is likely because your computers IP address has changed. Get the ip address from your computer and replace the address
in JRemote (the blue arrow to the right of the saved server).
I have made a change in the next version where JRemote will try to fetch an updated IP address if the connection fails.
This will only work if you use access key for connecting, but it will solve problems like these.
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LesPaul,
as supposed before, rating is nearly impossible on the "Now Playing" screen on an iPad mini.
The stars are much too narrow and too small to make the right choices.
Also the transport controls are too narrow and small to conveniently handle the app on an iPad mini.
Please redesign that screen a bit, to make it more comfortable to use.
Thanks
Fred
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downloaded jremote on my parents ipad yesterday but every time i tried to add my servers using the access key the program crashed.
the only way i could get it to work was by manualy adding an ip adress. unfortunatly since my ipadress is dynamic the access key would be a beter solution.
it was an ipad 2 and the os was up to date.
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downloaded jremote on my parents ipad yesterday but every time i tried to add my servers using the access key the program crashed.
the only way i could get it to work was by manualy adding an ip adress. unfortunatly since my ipadress is dynamic the access key would be a beter solution.
it was an ipad 2 and the os was up to date.
Try resetting the access key....
Lespaul, it would be nice if we could have an option to keep the search button visible at all times..
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thanks for your suggsetion.
acceskey seems to work fine on all other devices.
but i'l try next tme i'm at their house
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Hi guys, I just want to inform you of the progress on the latest version.
Here are the features currently implemented:
- Editable playlist (Requires MC18 or when playing to device).
Remove and reorder tracks in current playlist
- Shuffle and repeat controls (Requires MC18 or when playing to device)
Change to any of MC`s shuffle and repeat modes
- Playdoctor generation (Requires MC18)
Create a playdoctor playlist from any selection or from the current playlist.
- Local popup notifications
App will display feedback on actions performed (... added to playlist etc). Can be turned off in settings.
- Redesigned context popups for both iPad and iPhone version.
On iPad, the context menu will appear at the touch location.
The iPhone version now use slide-in menues instead of pop-ups.
- Automatically updates IP address when using access key for connection.
When not able to connect, JRemote will fetch the latest IP address from JRiver server.
The "Now playing" screen on the iPad version has also received some more attention based on your feedback.
fixed bugs:
- Unable to get out of default playmode popup on iPhone.
- JRemote will not proceed to next song while in background mode (If a file takes a while to download this can happen.)
- Invalid date tags will crash JRemote.
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This version may not be available until after christmas. Both because Apple wont approve apps during the holidays and because I want to release a solid version with as few bugs as possible.
I may also add the following feature if I have the time:
- Editable metatags
- Add old search option (file search)
Some initial response to your feedback:
I have been trying to recreate the crashes caused by trying to add a new server, and have been unable to do that so far, but I will keep testing.
I also don`t like the report of random crashes. They are hard to track down and are usually only found by a lot of testing.
Some of you mention the problem with JRemote pausing between songs. This should be fixed in this release.
The problem was that sometimes the app uses more time than allowed to start the next track when in background mode.
You have to specifically ask the OS for more time when that happens.
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Great feedback, thanks lespaul. Appreciate the new features, but am obviously more excited to hear about the bug fixes to improve stability and connectivity.
(With these new features requiring MC18, I hope J River are letting you participate in a rev share - I may now have to upgrade!) :)
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Yes! I'm extremely excited about new playlist features.
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I hadn't updated JRemote on my iPhone 5 in a while, but I did recently. This morning I was trying to use it, and I had some trouble (basically unusable)...
I'm able to navigate through my views, and pick a song to play. Then, after a long delay (10-15 sec with no UI update at all to indicate it is "working"), the song will start playing. But it only gets 5 or 6 seconds in, and then it stops. In the interim, by the way, I can't really do anything in JRemote (the buttons all stop responding completely). Once the song stops, I can bring up the Playing Now interface by hitting the button in the corner (didn't it do this automatically before?), but hitting play or any of the track change buttons causes JRemote to crash after a short period (I also hit the "stuck in select play mode" problem a lot as I flailed around hitting buttons).
This is happening over both WiFi and 3G. I'm on the latest build of MC18 at home. I'll try restarting the server later to see if it makes any difference at all, but I figured I'd report this before you submit your new version.
But right now, I can't play anything at all with it (for more than a few seconds).
If you PM me, I'm happy to send you my server details and you're welcome to test. The server is always on (except the occasional reboot and MC upgrades), and has a Dyn hostname, so it is easy to use.
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Hi Glynor.
I have had no reports similar to what you are talking about.
Could you try to delete and reinstall the app?
Also, your current playlist, how large is it?
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I hadn't updated JRemote on my iPhone 5 in a while, but I did recently. This morning I was trying to use it, and I had some trouble (basically unusable)...
I'm able to navigate through my views, and pick a song to play. Then, after a long delay (10-15 sec with no UI update at all to indicate it is "working"), the song will start playing. But it only gets 5 or 6 seconds in, and then it stops. In the interim, by the way, I can't really do anything in JRemote (the buttons all stop responding completely). Once the song stops, I can bring up the Playing Now interface by hitting the button in the corner (didn't it do this automatically before?), but hitting play or any of the track change buttons causes JRemote to crash after a short period (I also hit the "stuck in select play mode" problem a lot as I flailed around hitting buttons).
This is happening over both WiFi and 3G. I'm on the latest build of MC18 at home. I'll try restarting the server later to see if it makes any difference at all, but I figured I'd report this before you submit your new version.
But right now, I can't play anything at all with it (for more than a few seconds).
If you PM me, I'm happy to send you my server details and you're welcome to test. The server is always on (except the occasional reboot and MC upgrades), and has a Dyn hostname, so it is easy to use.
Hi Glynor, don't know if this is the same thing but I had an issue where playing a song would just stutter the first few seconds.. It turned out to be my Zone Switch rules that were causing it..
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Hi Glynor, don't know if this is the same thing but I had an issue where playing a song would just stutter the first few seconds.. It turned out to be my Zone Switch rules that were causing it..
Thanks for commenting. Unfortunately, I don't think this is the same. I'm not using any Zone Switch rules on that machine at all (it has a fairly vanilla zone setup), and the few seconds of music that does play, plays perfectly.
It just then stops.
Also, I should add, once it stops, without forcing the app to quit (jiggly mode), I can't get it to play anything else. Like I said above, it often crashes. But, if it doesn't, I can navigate around the JRemote UI, but if I try to play anything else, it just ignores me. And, if I go to Playing Now for the track once it "stops", it shows it as 1-7 seconds in, with the play "counter" stopped. None of the buttons do anything, and I can't drag on the play scrubber bar (it does the full screen position popup thing, but then won't let me change the time). It is basically just "stuck".
PS. I did try rebooting the server entirely, and no change. It always worked before. My Library is added via the server's hostname directly, not via a "key".
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ummm Glynor was a lot more eloquent than I, but this is the same issue I've had since Dec 7th post (I only reported the crashing out part)...am trying to isolate as it does not happen all the time...
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Hi Glynor.
I have had no reports similar to what you are talking about.
Could you try to delete and reinstall the app?
Also, your current playlist, how large is it?
I'll do that tomorrow (reinstall).
I'm not absolutely sure what you mean by the "current playlist", but I was trying all sorts of things. Mostly a song from a single album (so Playing Now would have held 12 or so tracks total). Nothing out of the ordinary, and no weirdo pre-mixed Smartlists or anything. But I also tried a variety of tracks from a variety of different places in my views and Playlists (including just single tracks).
I did also discover that JRemote still plays music correctly when I'm at home on my WLAN, so it is something specific to going outside my LAN. But it uses the same hostname to connect whether inside or outside my network (my firewall handles those rules correctly, so I don't need to use one address internally and a different externally). Plus, I never had trouble with timeouts connecting or anything (I could always get connected to the server easy-peasy), so it wasn't my firewall getting in the way. I even tried connecting via VPN, and it acted the same. When I'm on my VPN, I'm on the same subnet at the server, and can ping it directly (even using its internal hostname or LAN address directly), but the issue was identical.
So I'm not sure...
Totally guessing here, but I'm thinking it is something to do with some kind of server address resolution magic you're trying to do to help people who have crappy (typical) home networks, and need to use the Keys to connect and have to use different internal/external addresses. Like I said, the connection always works perfectly. The issue doesn't manifest until a few seconds into the track.
FWIW, if you are trying to do some "address resolution magic" to help people get connected, that's understandable. But, if someone puts in a fully-qualified domain name, you should just use it. Turn all of that crap off. If someone puts in an address like myserver.mynetwork.com (as opposed to 192.169.1.2), then you're almost certainly talking about two very different setups.
I should add, though, it is like clockwork. Almost like it is hitting a "timer" and then it just "stops". Same place, every time. I haven't actually timed it yet, but the "piece" of the song you get is quite brief. Almost like it is the first "block" that you download, after which you do some "checking" and decide to use different settings. And I'm seeing no variability (other than maybe the length of the section of the song that plays). Every song, every try, plays for 4-10 seconds and then stops, and then nothing else will play until I force JRemote to quit and try again.... Until I got back home and it connected to my WLAN. Then, everything's fine.
(Though I am also still seeing the lack of "feedback" when you hit play, which has always actually been an issue in JRemote, but it seems worse now. In any case: When you hit a button on the app, it should seem to "do something", always, even if what it does is tell you "I'm thinking, give me a second". It isn't working that way, and when it really doesn't actually work, it makes it seem worse and more frustrating than it would otherwise.)
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I may also add the following feature if I have the time:
- Editable metatags
Looking forward to it :-)
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I am having similar issues to the previosly reported one about JRemote crashing when playing a video file. The file plays perfectly using JRiver, but if I attempe to play it with JRemote, it crashes and closes completely, but I am watching the video. I am unable to reopen JRemote when the video is playing, but after I close the video on JRiver, I can start JRemote and work like nothing has happened.
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I'll do that tomorrow (reinstall).
Some additional details from today.
First off, I tested with my iPad, and I got the exact same results. So, I'm fairly certain it isn't just a corrupted installation. I'm going to give it a shot deleting/reinstalling on my phone anyway, just to be sure, but... They were both installed independently from the App Store directly on the devices, not using iTunes (where one corrupt download could have impacted both), so... I'm skeptical that will help at all.
However... Testing on my iPad provided a pretty essential clue, because of the different UI.
The issue happens when the cover art loads. If I play songs that have no cover art, it is fine. I can play multiple songs and everything works perfectly. However, as soon as I play a song that contains cover art, it plays fine until the cover art appears in JRemote (on the iPad you can see it on the bottom controller), and then the whole app is stuck. Like I said, I can still navigate around (though it gets pretty "crashy"), but nothing else will play at all until I force it to close and restart.
The music always stops just as the cover art appears down in the bottom controller. I hadn't seen this because on my iPhone, you don't see the cover art until you move to Playing Now. The problem is that for this few seconds (apparently while it is downloading the cover art) the app is frozen completely. It doesn't "unfreeze" until the music stops (upon which, you can move to the Playing Now screen, but the cover art was already there then, so I never connected the two things until I tried it on my iPad).
But I was suspicious this morning, because I tried it on the way in this morning, and it seemed to be working fine. Just happened that the album I picked had no cover art, but I didn't connect the two! Now, in testing further, it doesn't seem "universal". It is probably "big" cover art, or something. But I have enough of them that despite trying all sorts of tracks, I never stumbled across one that "worked" yesterday. But, today, knowing to look at cover art, I've now been able to find some tracks in my library that will play fine, despite having cover art (they probably have much lower-resolution art).
And, again, this seems to only happen when connected remotely to my server. The tracks I tested last night at home over WiFi, where the exact same tracks that continue to be troublesome today.
But, hopefully this helps. It is something in the way you are downloading and processing cover art. Again, PM me and I'm happy to send you my server details and you can try it yourself whenever you want.
Also, the cover art download process seems to be what is causing the UI non-responsiveness I described above. When I play a song that has cover art, but still "works" right, the UI still freezes completely as playback starts. You can hear the music, but the counter doesn't count, and no buttons do anything at all. Then it "unsticks" just as the cover art pops up in the little corner display (at the same point where it would normally stop playing with most of my tracks).
And, lastly, the fact that it can't "continue" once it has gotten into this state, seems to be related to that cover art as well. So, for example, on my iPad, I went in and played a song that I know triggers it. It played for 9 seconds, then got stuck just as the cover art popped up in the controller. So, I then navigated and chose a song that has no cover art at all. The little controller shows the right track info, but won't start playing, and the old cover art stays showing.
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Thanks for sussing this out for us Glynor!
-Patrick
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Hi
Just downloaded the trial version of jriver 18.0.100, works like A charm :-)
Only some minor problems with missing covers.
I just bought the jremote , my iphone 4S (IOS 6.0.1) works flawless with audio but will not handle the video.
Will not show that I have any films in my library.
With ipad 2 and 3 (IOS 6.0.1), it randomly crash when connecting to jriver (both via code and IP), If i play a movie via the jremote it completely crash.
I then have to uninstall the app, and start all over.
Audio works fine when its not crashing, but the video part crash instantly.
The funny thing is the movies I have started from my ipads, I can now se on my iphone in the video library but only the ones I have tried to play...strange.
And from the Iphone I have no problems playing the movie's, when it has been started on the Ipad.
Hope I make some sense :-)
Best regards
Morten
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Hey Lespaul
on the dark skin, upon pressing the alphabetical scroll bar thingy, you can't see any of the letters..
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Hi. I'm loving the app. Just wondering about a likely bug. When I press on the add track button on the top left it brings down the pulldown menu of add track options. But then I'm stuck in it and can't back out without having to shut down the app and restart it.
Thanks!
I am having the same problem cannot change the way to add song to the list with out restarting my iphone. Happened with MC17 and MC18
Hope is fixed in the update
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I have a mc library server with a mc client pc connected to it. When I control the client pc through the library pc with jremote connected to the server pc jremote works ok to select and play media. But I can not use jremote's remote function. When I control the client pc with jremote connectrd to the client pc I of course now can use the remote function but I can not play things anymore. Also this setup seems to mess with the view schemes. I for example see now video views under audio.
So my question is should I be able to connect directly to the client when its connected to a library server. Or is this not yet supported by jremote?
And if that is not possible then could the remote function be mapped to the pc of the currently selected zone when jremote is connected to a library server pc?
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Another polite request for better meta data handling for movies - eh hold down over movie and in the pop up be able to select meta data...
Everything else perfect for me...
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Just started using jremote on my ipad after using it on my iPhone for a few weeks. First off, thank you for not ripping people off by charging twice for ipad/iPhone apps. This was a major purchase decision for me as the practice stinks.
I've noticed a problem in that the volume control on the artist/track browse page jumps around when you try to change volume and often just doesn't work. However the volume on the playing now screen works perfectly.
Being able to control jriver remotely in this clean, easy to use way massively influenced me into buying jriver. It looks like jremote author is doing all he can to leverage the functionality that the jriver developers expose to him via the Api. However, it would clearly be beneficial to both parties to allow more remote functionality, eg allow the remote to function when the base jriver has been customised (for example, I usually have a custom view which shows HD tracks only which doesn't appear to be possible now). Hopefully this is being explored behind the scenes.
Anyway, great product and thank you,
Pel
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However, it would clearly be beneficial to both parties to allow more remote functionality, eg allow the remote to function when the base jriver has been customised
You can do this.
Network Views are configured separately from those in Standard View. You can configure views available over the network (including JRemote) under Options > Media Network > Advanced.
The system for doing so is essentially identical to configuring Theater View.
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1. Any chance of having the zone selector available in the search result screen when the search is invoked from the now playing view? I have imported my music cover art (front, back, booklet etc) into MC and tagged them with the music album name so when I do a meta data search on the now playing album I get the cover art as well in the search result. I would like to be able to continue to play the music to my regular DLNA zone and in the search result screen temporarily switch to This device zone to watch the cover art, details on a booklet page for example.
2. With long names for category grouping the icons in file list views for switching play/add mode and display mode (list, list with thumbs and just thumbs) disappears, the display mode icons disappear first and if the category grouping name is really long the play/add mode icon also disappears.
3. if a level is skipped (going directly from album artist to the one album by that artist), the thumbnail shown in the file list view heading (top left) is still the thumb for the previous level (the album artist portrait thumb instead of the album cover art thumb).
4. I think you, LesPaul, said somewhere in this gigantic thread that you would add year info to the display in the now playing view (and possible also to the playlist display). I am looking forward to this.
5. Would it be possible to add a playlist drag up button in the now playing portrait view? This would be handy when the iPad sits in its stand and cannot be easily rotated.
6. The meta data search is not working for me when the search term starts with " (searching for "Weird" Al Yankovic in the artist field produces no hits; the normal search finds that artist but when selecting the artist there are no files).
7. Trying to play an image (jpg) from the search result to This device crashes the app for me.
8. Would it be possible to have one entry in the meta data display for each item in list type fields (with ; as separator)? That way also list type fields would be available for meta data search. (Now when trying to search a list type field with item1; item2 nothing is found.)
This is with the iPad version.
Thanks for a great app that is just getting better with each version.
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Computeraudiophile.com gave JRemote their Product of the Year award for software. Congratulations, LesPaul!
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/499-2012-computer-audiophile-product-year/
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That is awesome!!!! Well done Lespaul!
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Computeraudiophile.com gave JRemote their Product of the Year award for software. Congratulations, LesPaul!
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/499-2012-computer-audiophile-product-year/
Well deserved!
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I am having the same problem cannot change the way to add song to the list with out restarting my iphone. Happened with MC17 and MC18
Hope is fixed in the update
I can confirm that this is fixed in the coming version (Lespaul gave me a beta version to test my playback issue, and said it was fine if I reported back in the thread to help others). He also revamped how this menu (and the similar tap-and-hold-to-get-play-options menu) looks/works and it is WAY better (IMHO). Much easier to use and slicker looking.
Also, my playback problem is largely solved. Responsiveness is perfect again (the long freeze before the UI updates after starting streaming playback is fixed), and the vast majority of my files play fine now when streamed. I use the regular settings for conversion in MC, though, so YMMV if you do crazy lossless streaming stuff or any of that.
The only exception with the current beta is with M4A files downloaded from the iTunes Store (regular AAC M4As). I can't get those to stream right. As it is now, it acts much like my previous problem. The files start to play for a few seconds, then crap out. This time, it shows an error dialog, and acts weird (it shows the error popup repeatedly), but then like before you have to kill/relaunch JRemote to play anything else once you get the error. But, as I said, that is only with M4A files from the iTunes Store. With MP3, FLAC, and APE sources (which are all streamed as ~128k MP3 with my settings), everything is silky smooth and wonderful again.
PS. Side note: It turns out it was NOT the cover art, but was actually something about how the Apple API handled the decompressed audio coming in, and it just corresponded with when JRemote got the full file downloaded (which is when it shows the cover art). I think it was related to the quality of the source audio, or something like that. In any case, it is fixed, except for with M4A sources.
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Well that is just fantastic!! Seeing I dont have a single track from iTunes I am in the clear!
Good job LesPaul! And thanks for chiming in Glynor.
Have a great weekend everyone!
Patrick
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great news indeed.
Thanks to lespaul for continuing to develop an amazing product and yes Glynor, your dedication to weeding out bugs and fixes is, as always, exemplary.
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I don't see any mention of this issue so I am adding it here - sorry if it is a duplicate.
When browsing to select a song or album to play, there is an icon on the top of the screen. (See attachment). When selected it brings up a menu of options, “Play Now, Play next. Add to Playlist,” etc. No matter what I press here, I cannot get out of this screen, and the function does not do anything. In other words, I select Play Now. Nothing actually plays and I am still in this screen. The check mark next to what I selected is there, but it is as if the function is not enabled or something.
Not a huge deal for me as I normally do not press this option, but have occasionally wondered what it was for or hit it by accident with my fat fingers….:)
Closing the app with the home button will not fix this as the next time I am open JRemote, it brings me to the screen. I must double click home button, hold JRemote icon and press the minus to abort the program.
I thought it was worth mentioning in case others had this issue.
Thanks,
Pete
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I don't see any mention of this issue so I am adding it here - sorry if it is a duplicate.
When browsing to select a song or album to play, there is an icon on the top of the screen. (See attachment). When selected it brings up a menu of options, “Play Now, Play next. Add to Playlist,” etc. No matter what I press here, I cannot get out of this screen, and the function does not do anything. In other words, I select Play Now. Nothing actually plays and I am still in this screen. The check mark next to what I selected is there, but it is as if the function is not enabled or something.
Not a huge deal for me as I normally do not press this option, but have occasionally wondered what it was for or hit it by accident with my fat fingers….:)
Closing the app with the home button will not fix this as the next time I am open JRemote, it brings me to the screen. I must double click home button, hold JRemote icon and press the minus to abort the program.
I thought it was worth mentioning in case others had this issue.
Thanks,
Pete
That's the default action when you press a song. If the check box is on Play Now, when you click on a song it will play now. When the check box is on append to playlist, when you click on a song it will append to the currently playing playlist.
It has no function other then defining the default action when clicking on a song.
That said once you select something in that menu and the check box gets applied the window should close automatically. Or at least it does on my iPad. Maybe it's an iPhone version bug.
What you are trying to achieve with it should be done via a long press on a song or album. A popup menu should come up giving options that take immediate action.
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That's the default action when you press a song. If the check box is on Play Now, when you click on a song it will play now. When the check box is on append to playlist, when you click on a song it will append to the currently playing playlist.
It has no function other then defining the default action when clicking on a song.
That said once you select something in that menu and the check box gets applied the window should close automatically. Or at least it does on my iPad. Maybe it's an iPhone version bug.
What you are trying to achieve with it should be done via a long press on a song or album. A popup menu should come up giving options that take immediate action.
+1 I have the same issue on my iPhone. You get stuck on this screen and have to close the app and restart to get out.
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+1 I have the same issue on my iPhone. You get stuck on this screen and have to close the app and restart to get out.
As I mentioned just a couple posts above (http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=68491.msg521636#msg521636), this is fixed in the upcoming build.
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Sorry, I thought you were referring to the actual option to select a song versus this option of adjusting the default setting.
Can't wait for the new version!
Thanks again,
Pete
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Just wanted to inform you that the next version was submitted for review two days ago.
The last week was mostly spent tracking down memory leaks after discovering that the app would get progressively slower after extended use. I think it was worth it, it may even be a bit faster overall now.
I want to thank glynor for his help testing this release. He also gave me access to his server, and that really helped a lot for tracking down a couple of those streaming bugs.
A couple of things added in the last few days specific to iPhone version while I remember it:
- You can now access metadata for any track from the context menu.
- Track number and duration shown in track lists
I also changed the behavior when downloading thumbnails. The download will now be cancelled if the thumb`s row goes out of view before it has a chance to download/display. This should really help those with slower connections.
Now, before adding any new features to the app I want to fix any remaining bugs. So keep looking when you get the new version.
Will answer your questions soon.
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I think its time for me to invest $10.
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Hello, there was no answer to my question, so i will try it again....
Hello, JRiver together with JRemote is awesome!
only some features in JRemote are missing.
1. an option to set up a individual timeout while connecting to Media Center. (My PC wakes up (wake on lan) in about 20 seconds, in the meantime JRemote get s a timeout.)
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regards faster
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JRiver/Remote noob. I have JRiver configured on a new Win8 streamer, and JRemote installed on new iPad Mini. I see all my files, but when I try to play...nada. :'(
I can get JRemote to play my files on the iPad Mini; just not JRiver, on my streamer. ?
Help?
CD
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Just wanted to inform you that the next version was submitted for review two days ago.
The last week was mostly spent tracking down memory leaks after discovering that the app would get progressively slower after extended use. I think it was worth it, it may even be a bit faster overall now.
I want to thank glynor for his help testing this release. He also gave me access to his server, and that really helped a lot for tracking down a couple of those streaming bugs.
A couple of things added in the last few days specific to iPhone version while I remember it:
- You can now access metadata for any track from the context menu.
- Track number and duration shown in track lists
I also changed the behavior when downloading thumbnails. The download will now be cancelled if the thumb`s row goes out of view before it has a chance to download/display. This should really help those with slower connections.
Now, before adding any new features to the app I want to fix any remaining bugs. So keep looking when you get the new version.
Will answer your questions soon.
Perfect! I love your approach Lespaul - fix whats there now and get it robust before adding the (extra) bells and whistles!
(I started to noticed the memory leak on my ipad1 just recently, so that fix is very welcome as well).
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JRiver/Remote noob. I have JRiver configured on a new Win8 streamer, and JRemote installed on new iPad Mini. I see all my files, but when I try to play...nada. :'(
I can get JRemote to play my files on the iPad Mini; just not JRiver, on my streamer. ?
Help?
CD
No love here? I know it's pretty vague; if there's more info I can provide...or a wiki or primer I should consult first. I'm happy to RTFM.
Thanks,
CD
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No love here? I know it's pretty vague; if there's more info I can provide...or a wiki or primer I should consult first. I'm happy to RTFM.
I'd recommend working through this:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Audio_Setup
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I'd recommend working through this:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Audio_Setup
OK, I'll start there. Thanks!
CD
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CD,
Simply change the "zone" on the now playing page to "This device".
If you are trying to do it when off of your WLAN you need to make sure you set up the server with your global IP etc...
Good luck!
Patrick
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CD,
Simply change the "zone" on the now playing page to "This device".
If you are trying to do it when off of your WLAN you need to make sure you set up the server with your global IP etc...
Good luck!
Patrick
Actually...when I changed the zone to "this device"...from the iPad Mini...that's when the files at least played through my Mini. And my issue isn't playing the files from the server; if I hook a monitor and keyboard up, I did have playback. It's from JRemote/iPad Mini.
Follow-up question...that will help with the first: if I RDC to the streamer, and try to play a file...I get an error about playback. Like it's trying to playback to the PC I'm dialed-in from. Is there anyway to say "no, no, no...just playback to the device you're on"?
CD
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Sorry.... I cannot follow you.
-Patrick
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Sorry.... I cannot follow you.
-Patrick
OK, sorry...
I have a streamer, that I want to typically run headless. As I'm trying to get the JRiver figured-out, I hooked a keyboard and monitor to it, and things play fine the way playback is configured. Now...I've taken the monitor off, and running headless; trying to set JRemote up on iPad Mini. Having some trouble, as described above.
So...to troubleshoot, I RDC (remote desktop connect) into the streamer. But playback doesn't work when I do that, because it's as if JRiver is saying "this playback configuration won't work on the computer you're on"...meaning the computer I'm remoting-in from, rather than the computer it resides on.
Make sense now? Is there any way around that? While you guys are helping me troubleshoot the JRemote issue...I'd hate to drag a monitor and keyboard back to it (but will if I have to). Just can't believe I can't control JRiver remotely, without it wanting to take the settings of the computer I'm remoting from.
Thanks,
CD
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New version is out. Very happy to have currently playing playlist management.
That said I thought it would would have been in the library management slide up not the now playing screen. I'm usually there building, ordering or removing a track I accidentally added by mistake. Would it be possible to have it both places?
Les Paul, thanks for all the hard work!
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OK, sorry...
I have a streamer, that I want to typically run headless. As I'm trying to get the JRiver figured-out, I hooked a keyboard and monitor to it, and things play fine the way playback is configured. Now...I've taken the monitor off, and running headless; trying to set JRemote up on iPad Mini. Having some trouble, as described above.
So...to troubleshoot, I RDC (remote desktop connect) into the streamer. But playback doesn't work when I do that, because it's as if JRiver is saying "this playback configuration won't work on the computer you're on"...meaning the computer I'm remoting-in from, rather than the computer it resides on.
Make sense now? Is there any way around that? While you guys are helping me troubleshoot the JRemote issue...I'd hate to drag a monitor and keyboard back to it (but will if I have to). Just can't believe I can't control JRiver remotely, without it wanting to take the settings of the computer I'm remoting from.
Thanks,
CD
Wasapi or directsound will die if you rdc into your j river streamer box, that's the nature of rdc, it instantiates it's own special sound device. Use asio to solve this problem if your dac drivers support it. If asio isn't an option you will have to plug your monitor and peripherals in until you have your other problem sorted out.
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Make sense now?
No. Sorry. Some others will have to chime in.
-p
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CD,
If you are using microsoft remote desktop there is an option somewhere to keep all sound coming from the server instead of the computer you are doing rd from. I use it all the time, works perfect also with wasapi.
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Hello,
Forgive me if this question has been answered elsewhere.
I have my library encoded in ALAC/AIFF, and have employed the iTunes field "Album Artist Sort Order" to ensure that Bob Dylan is alphabetized under "D" rather than "B" and that U2 is alphabetized as "UTwo" rather than at the beginning of "U." Obsessive-compulsive? Likely ...
My question: Is there a way to create a custom field in JRemote (a la MC), such that I can view by Album Artist Sort Order?
Thanks in advance for the reply and thanks again to LesPaul for a phenomenal app.
Tim
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Yes, you can create custom fields in MC (Tools/Options/Library & Folders) and populate them as you like, although I don't know if the iTunes Album Artist Sort Order field would automatically map into a MC field and you might have to populate the field manually. Then you can create custom views that will sort your collection as you wish. JRemote uses the same set of views as Gizmo so you can configure them in Tools/Options/Media Network/Advanced/Customise Views for Gizmo.
I have a sort album artist field too and that's the way I sort them, but Ionly populate the sort field where there is a need to, i.e. wher it is different from the normal album artist. My artist category in the views then doesn't use the Album Artist field but uses an Expression as follows:
If(IsEmpty([Sort Artist]),[Album Artist],[Sort Artist])
so that it uses Sort Artist if it is not empty, otherwise Album Artist.
If you need more help in custom fields, tagging, and setting up views, it is best to post in the normal MC forums rather that the JRemote forum as it is not really a JRemote subject, other than JRemote uses the Gizmo views.
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CD,
If you are using microsoft remote desktop there is an option somewhere to keep all sound coming from the server instead of the computer you are doing rd from. I use it all the time, works perfect also with wasapi.
Thanks. :)
EDIT-Awesome sauce! Thanks for the tip Dan. That's a Win thing guys, not JR. RDC options, 'play audio on remote computer'. Thanks again; now the real fun starts, lol.
CD
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Hi All,
I think I'm having a similar issue to CD.
Just installed JRemote too and found it great for controlling MC on my homeserver which feeds music and video to my HTPC and whole house audio system. However, I can't seem to get it send audio, video or coverart when I select "This Device" as the zone. Tried this from both my Ipod Touch (4th Gen) and iPhone5 so I'm sure it's not a device issue but rather either a MC or possibly a firewall issue.
If this was mentioned in another post/thread I apologize but I searched and didn't see anything.
Thanks for your help & advice.
oneklakes
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Les Paul,
KILLER update. So good.
I like the new font. Playlist editing is sick!
Thanks again.
Patrick
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This app just gets better and better. This has got be the best media controller app around!
In the latest update, I'm finding the Next button on the landscape Now Playing screen (iPad) is not very responsive, it can take a few taps to get it to respond.
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However, I can't seem to get it send audio, video or coverart when I select "This Device" as the zone. Tried this from both my Ipod Touch (4th Gen) and iPhone5 so I'm sure it's not a device issue but rather either a MC or possibly a firewall issue.
Are your media files in a format that the iDevices can render? I'm not sure that JRemote will be able to play FLAC files, or anything other than MP3 and Apple format, but I'm not sure.
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New version is out. Very happy to have currently playing playlist management.
That said I thought it would would have been in the library management slide up not the now playing screen. I'm usually there building, ordering or removing a track I accidentally added by mistake. Would it be possible to have it both places?
Les Paul, thanks for all the hard work!
I was in dialog with Matt from JRiver when adding the current playlist editing functionality. I believe they are interested in adding more features later. I think they just ran out of time for this release.
The current playlist editing is a start. But of course, It wont be complete until one can manipulate any playlist.
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In the latest update, I'm finding the Next button on the landscape Now Playing screen (iPad) is not very responsive, it can take a few taps to get it to respond.
Well, that`s a bug right there. Half the button is cut off from touch input. Thank you for reporting.
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Appreciate the kind words guys:)
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Are your media files in a format that the iDevices can render? I'm not sure that JRemote will be able to play FLAC files, or anything other than MP3 and Apple format, but I'm not sure.
Hi Simon,
Thanks for the response. Both MP3 and FLAC files wouldn't play on both devices so I don't think that's it. Any other thoughts?
oneklakes
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Hello all,
With every new version the experience using JRemote is getting even greater!
After the upgrade the following problem occurs: When I have selected 'This Device' and I select a movie to play after a very sort period of loading the movie the program returns to movies list. This is not happening when I play movies on 'Player' or when I play audio or photos on 'This Device'. All my movies are MP4.
I have terminated the program but the problem remains. Any ideas?
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Hi Simon,
Thanks for the response. Both MP3 and FLAC files wouldn't play on both devices so I don't think that's it. Any other thoughts?
oneklakes
It isn't the formats, as MC will convert audio files on the fly for you (FLAC works fine in JRemote).
Probably firewall. You have to forward the port used by MC (set under Options > Media Network) in your router/firewall. You may need to do the same in Windows itself if you have the Win7 firewall active).
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It isn't the formats, as MC will convert audio files on the fly for you (FLAC works fine in JRemote).
Probably firewall. You have to forward the port used by MC (set under Options > Media Network) in your router/firewall. You may need to do the same in Windows itself if you have the Win7 firewall active).
Hi Glynor,
Thanks for tip. I checked Windows firewall (I'm running Windows Homeserver v.2) and it was already configured to allow MC inbound access. I also opened the port on my router too but I'm still unable to play to the device.
Unfortunately, now JRemote is no longer able to communicate with MC on the PC either. When I try to play something with MC open, the coverart briefly flashes but the track doesn't play. I've tried with several tracks with the same result and yes, I rebooting everything but still no joy. (Previously I could use JRemote to play tracks with MC open or with just the Media server running in the background.)
At this point, I'm thinking I may need to uninstall/reinstall MC but you or anyone else have other ideas please let me know.
Thanks for helping.
oneklakes
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Awesome update ;D
I still don't see the point of the large cover art in the playing now screen. I still think that function would be much slicker/nicer if it simply took the right half of the Playing Now screen and made it fullscreen...
Thanks
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Great update, but why does the volume control now is located on top in playing now view ?? Compared to the standard view I think it's not consistent.
In my opinion it should be always at the same place. The jump control slider should be vertically on the right side,like it is in the standard view.
regards Erwin.
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$10 spent - beautiful piece of software. Thanks.
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Hello all,
With every new version the experience using JRemote is getting even greater!
After the upgrade the following problem occurs: When I have selected 'This Device' and I select a movie to play after a very sort period of loading the movie the program returns to movies list. This is not happening when I play movies on 'Player' or when I play audio or photos on 'This Device'. All my movies are MP4.
I have terminated the program but the problem remains. Any ideas?
The problem was de solved with a reboot to JRiver server, I am using the last version
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When playing to the iPad, I've had two anomolies with playback of an album.
First, track #2 starting playing, and about 2 - 4 seconds into the track, JRemote skipped to track 3.
Second, the last track of the album did not start playback.
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If Lespaul is in creative mode and has the time I vote to cover the functionality for the photos. I enjoy the audio and movies and it would be great to have my photos cover too.
Also, is it possible to view tv from JRiver? it would be the first application to cover that functionality!
Your work is amazing...
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New update is fantastic!
When out and about (and not on local wifi) response is sooooooo much quicker - love it!
Thanks LesPaul - as others have said, this product just gets better and better.
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I am having similar issues to the previosly reported one about JRemote crashing when playing a video file. The file plays perfectly using JRiver, but if I attempe to play it with JRemote, it crashes and closes completely, but I am watching the video. I am unable to reopen JRemote when the video is playing, but after I close the video on JRiver, I can start JRemote and work like nothing has happened.
Hi Les Paul,
I was excited for the new version 2.20 and again JRemote is a bit smarter and faster, a fantastic app !!
But I'm sorry the problem above still exists. I've had posted and described two times at the end of 2012 and bobsdevices has obviously the same problem.
Again it's only with ipad. On ipod everything is okay. ImHO this has something to do with coverart. Since 2.15 jremote shows covers in their original aspect ratio only on ipad not on ipod (maybe cause of the small screensize). DVD and bluray-cover have another aspect ratio than cds.
It happens with every bdmv or isofile with or without tags and movieinfos. Until 2.06 there was no problem.
It would be nice, if you can try to fix this bug.
With best regards from Germany
Michael
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Great update, but why does the volume control now is located on top in playing now view ??
This is because it is more logical and more convenient to have the position-slider near the other "motion" controls (fastforward, next, start stop etc.).
The volume control however should be on top now in the main window, that's right.
In addition, it would be nice if the distance between the stars were wider, because my sausage fingers don't hit the right star mostly, when i'm rating on my iPad mini ;).
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my sausage fingers don't hit the right star mostly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DtbPOXFk00
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editable playlists are a good edition. Does that mean we'll see the ability to send to other (and new) playlists soon?
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After the upgrade the following problem occurs: When I have selected 'This Device' and I select a movie to play after a very sort period of loading the movie the program returns to movies list. This is not happening when I play movies on 'Player' or when I play audio or photos on 'This Device'. All my movies are MP4.
It looks like playing mp4 movies to This Device is broken with new update. I have the same problem.
I reinstalled the previous version and mp4 movies play again to This Device.
Resetting the server solved nothing for me.
Rich
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It looks like playing mp4 movies to This Device is broken with new update. I have the same problem.
I reinstalled the previous version and mp4 movies play again to This Device.
Resetting the server solved nothing for me.
Rich
In my case I restart both Ipad & JRiver Server and I do not have any problems now
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I am still having the problem of adding a connection to JRemote on my secondary iPad (see quote below).
I have reinstalled, and upgraded versions but I cannot add a connection (both JRemote and MC have been upgraded since my first post).
I have tried both locally on my lan, and on a remote connection to no avail.
On the same iPad the MyRiver App connects just fine.
Does anybody have any idea on how I could solve this ?
Thanks for any input you might give.
/Fridden
However, now I am trying to connect to my MC on a second iPad (also iPad 2 and iOs 6.0.1) and every time I try to connect to the server it crashes.
So, I start it up and go to the Settings.
I press the "Add a new JRiver Media Center server"
I press the "Connect with access key"
Enter my access key and my username and password.
Finally pressing "Add and Connect"
JRemote will spin the wheel for a few seconds, and then close down.
Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong?
I have restarted the iPad.
I have removed JRemote and reinstalled it.
But still same thing..
On the same iPad, MyRiver is running without problems.
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A bug-fix release was submitted to apple yesterday.
It mainly fixes the movie streaming issue + a couple of other small issues.
Fridden:
Is the app still crashing when trying to connect?
Are you sure the settings in MyRiver and JRemote are identical?
Fred1:
I need to get myself an iPad mini to test with.
You may know this but, you don`t need to hit the stars by tapping. You can hold your finger there and slide.
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JRemote is wonderful to use with JRiver. Somebody ever thought of integrating flac support and an offline mode, that fetches musicfiles from JRiver over the network? That would be the ideal solution to bypass iTunes.
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Love the new update!
I posted elsewhere on the MC18 board about trying to use my ipad as an album art now playing slide show frame, and I thought I'd cracked it with JRemote "now playing" full screen album art display.
Unfortunately not..the album art doesn't seem to update automatically when the track changes...you need to close it down then you can get it back.
Could this dynamic update be featured in a future version of JRemote, enabling full screen album art slide show?
Thanks.
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Is the app still crashing when trying to connect?
Are you sure the settings in MyRiver and JRemote are identical?
Hi.
If I try to connect with Access key it will still crash.
Actually I managed to connect just now when using "connect with IP address".
As regards to My River, I can use the Access key to connect to my MC using My River (that is how I found out the IP address actually).
So, anyway my specific problem is solved since I now can connect.
thanks!
Fridden
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Interesting, I though the crash on connection was fixed.
You could try to either reset your access key, or click "Test connection to this server". Both methods should make sure that the JRiver server has your latest IP addresses.
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odd had that same thing on my parents ipad2 when i tried to connect with access code. this wass a while back and reported at the time.
are you sure JRemote is up to date?
i had no such problems with my new ipad 4 that i bought last week
it was a updated version of jremote.
also worth noting that from my parents place i was connecting from outside the network. with my new ipad the first connection was from the localnet work first.
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Just thought I'd mention... I've been using the current build of JRemote heavily on both my phone and my iPad 3 for the past couple weeks, and the only problem I've encountered is the M4A playback problem I discussed above (and this doesn't hurt much as I only have a handful of these in my Library, and I'll probably just transcode them at some point anyway).
Otherwise, it has been one of the most stable versions I've ever used of JRemote. Well done, Lespaul!
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Same here...
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LesPaul
I am struggling with only one aspect of your app.
The search.
Please help me understand how to search for a title and be assured that it is by the artist I am looking for.
Example:
Two ways to look - search and artist
Artist-When looking for "crazy" by patsy cline, in JRemote I did the artist>P>find Patsy cline> now I have 15 albums, not knowing which contains "crazy".
Search-gives me all "crazy", but does not tell me the artist.
The only piece jremote is missing is the ability to quickly find a specific song and select it to play (next, end, replace)
It would be nice if you could search for patsy cline "crazy" and get only songs starting with crazy that are sung by patsy cline.
Unfortunately, I have not been able to do that.
Maybe I am asking for too much, but without a good search system, it is very difficult to find the song requested to play.
With BitRemote (I know, it is discontinued), you could go to search>"crazy">select from drop down (artist, album, search all, title)>next drop down (starts with, any word)>last drop down (show songs, show albums). So, I select search>"crazy">title>starts with>show songs. this gives me (in my case) 180 results with the first 49 being songs titled "crazy" only - with the artist for each of those. not able to see the album for Crazy, but at least getting one of the songs for Patsy Cline "crazy". and adding it to the que or to "next to play".
BitRemote lacked a lot of functionality, but it did have an excellent search argument.
I'm just saying JRemote is fast, sexy, but no really good search function (that I can find) making it hard to use as a jukebox type app. say for a party where you are selecting songs per request to add to the "Playing now".
Perhaps a series of pull downs:
(search argument)>(title, artist, album)>(starts with,or includes, or ?)>(show songs, show albums, show artists)>show listings alphabetic by search argument. Just an example:
If someone out there has a good way to find a song for a particular artist in JRemote I would love to hear how you do it.
Thanks for your time
TxGary
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I'll probably just transcode them at some point anyway
What is the best way to do this to my ripped DVDs (vob) and 720p TV Shows (mkv) without degrading quality?
Thanks!
Patrick
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Thanks Lespaul love the new update great work :)
Just to raise the issue again in case it is forgotten, on the dark skin upon touching the alphabetical scroll bar thing (i don't know what you call it) you can't see any letters.. Just re-iterating another request hopefully for the future.. I think the search button always needs to be visible instead of going right out the view to get to it..
This one is for Matt, I really thing customising views for gizmo needs the checkbox Use parent scheme for file display..
One little issue here, when an album only has one track, it double shows the album cover art
(http://thumbnails107.imagebam.com/23262/3cf76a232615392.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/3cf76a232615392)
I've been scratching my head over this and have come to the conclusion it isn't possible unless we get some kind of group by feature (Unless anybody can guide me in the right path??)
On this image it shows an album artist, what I really would like to do is just go straight to all the tracks and be grouped by the albums. I've tried "Display all as a choice but it just jumbles the albums up".
(http://thumbnails106.imagebam.com/23262/b27151232615353.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/b27151232615353)
What I would really be able to like to do it make the artists view appear just like when you browse the metadata.. Can this be done?? I hopes so because it's bugging me a little because it feels so close but yet so far as I can already view an artist like this with your metadata searching but can't use it on a view.. It's a tease lol..
(http://thumbnails103.imagebam.com/23262/73d7e2232615361.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/73d7e2232615361)
Thanks
Keep up the excellent work
Angelo
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I'm using JRemote since 3 months for my Linn DS together with MC 17 & 18 & Catwalk, it works like a charm :D
One question: is it possible to get more than on line of text below the album thumbnails ?
e.g.:
Album Artist
Album
and not:
Album Artist : Album
which is often truncated with "..." if its too long.
I tried linebreaks, \<br\>, \r\n, ... in the Gizmo expression, but nothing gives me a line break ....
Anybody any ideas ?
Regards
Ebe
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Installed JRemote to iPad. It sees the server (MC18) and the device I want to send to (Oppo BDP-105). I can play to "this device", meaning the iPad. However, when I select the 105 to play to, the "play" button no longer functions. When "play" is pressed, it just goes to the next song on the playlist without playing anything. Am I missing something or is this just a bug?
Not trying to cause trouble, but the Linn Kinsky app will control MC18 going to the 105 (but is much inferior to JRemote, if it worked). My conclusion is that the 105 is set up appropriately to play from MC18.
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Installed JRemote to iPad. It sees the server (MC18) and the device I want to send to (Oppo BDP-105). I can play to "this device", meaning the iPad. However, when I select the 105 to play to, the "play" button no longer functions. When "play" is pressed, it just goes to the next song on the playlist without playing anything. Am I missing something or is this just a bug?
Not trying to cause trouble, but the Linn Kinsky app will control MC18 going to the 105 (but is much inferior to JRemote, if it worked). My conclusion is that the 105 is set up appropriately to play from MC18.
With the last version of JRemote (iPad) I sometimes have the same effect: the play buton of JRemote does not work (Playing to a Linn DS), skip to next track e.g. works. In this case I use the Linn remote control to give an initial play command, the song plays and then it works fine with JRiver. This issue is only in the newest JRemote version, the version before the play button worked fine.
Regards
Eberhard
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Thanks very much. Hopefully, this will get fixed in the next iteration.
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I've been playing around with searching in JRemote.
I think a little love needs to be focused on searching.
Example:
Search for "Unchained"
It brings various tracks, no details on the track. So at this point it's a crap shoot.
So I take a guess and long press and add the track to the playlist. To my dismay 7 tracks get added, one for each Van Halen album that has the track Unchained.
Now I assume part of the problem is the flexibility of the J River web api?
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LesPaul,
Thank you for the update. Just a few points:
-In the album view the bit rate is stated in lieu of the sampling rate (e.g. 2250 kHz)
- I would prefer the old font type. I wish the font style could be customisable.
- The pdf support is superb but it would be really nice if we could also open them in iBooks.
- In the search view I miss the old colored pdf icon. It was easier to catch the pdf files.
Thanks for your nice software.
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Lespaul, what do you think about an offline cache feature? Similar to what grooveshark app offers, Would be very helpful for those who dont have unlimited 3G data plan, like me
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"Running" the latest version on iOS (iPad2). Now when choosing songs for a playlist or just "play now", the pop-up indicates that the song is added to the playlist or is playing now. In fact, nothing is added to the playlist and nothing plays. The playlist is blank............nothing happens. Reboot, etc. Nothing happens. The program is now dead, useless. Any suggestions?
Paying for bad beta software is a person. Kinsky works, but does not have the features. JRemote has the features but does not work.
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"Running" the latest version on iOS (iPad2). Now when choosing songs for a playlist or just "play now", the pop-up indicates that the song is added to the playlist or is playing now. In fact, nothing is added to the playlist and nothing plays. The playlist is blank............nothing happens. Reboot, etc. Nothing happens. The program is now dead, useless. Any suggestions?
Paying for bad beta software is a person. Kinsky works, but does not have the features. JRemote has the features but does not work.
The latest version works best on my ipad/JR18/CatWalk/both on LinnDSAkurate & direct PC output ... Very strange your problem.
Did you restart JR or rebooted the JR PC ?
regards
Ebe
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Did both. The iPad program sees the server just fine. I can choose whatever I want, but nothing is sent to the playlist and nothing plays.
The issue prior to this one was that the playlist was populated just fine, but the play button did not work. Lots and lots of bugs/problems with this program. Thanks.
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Maybe I'm a little dense, but how does one edit and/or save playlists in JRemote?
I have figured out how to add tracks to a current playlist, but don't know how to save it or select it again. (I only see seemingly random pre-constructed playlist to select: most recently played, etc.) I want fixed, non-changing playlists that I can edit a song here or there (no smart list stuff).
I'm running v18 of MC headless, so JRemote is preferred.
Thanks.
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Maybe I'm a little dense, but how does one edit and/or save playlists in JRemote?
I have figured out how to add tracks to a current playlist, but don't know how to save it or select it again. (I only see seemingly random pre-constructed playlist to select: most recently played, etc.) I want fixed, non-changing playlists that I can edit a song here or there (no smart list stuff).
I'm running v18 of MC headless, so JRemote is preferred.
Thanks.
You can't. I don't think MC had the appropriate APIs implemented.
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ksa what zone are you playing to and how is it setup? maybe that info will help people figuring out what is wrong
and does it work with another zone like your local computer. the only times jremote didnt work for me was when i had the wrong zone selected.
for most persons jriver is working fine. so your problem seems to be very specific. wheter or not it is jremote's fault has yet to be determined.
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Hi all, I love using the JRemote app and how I can run the tvs from remotely. I was wondering if you have any plans to include a moble guide? It would be awesome if you could schedule recordings remotely (since MC18 now supports scheduling from clients)! Just a thought...thanks for your work on this app.
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ksa, I will try to reproduce your problem, since I have an oppo player myself I can try.
Initially this sounds to me like a MC problem, since when you press the play button, MC skips and goes to the next track.
However, It can be something in JRemote, although I cant imagine what that could be right now. But I will investigate.
_noel_, track lists with thumbnails are split to three lines in the next version. Looks better IMO.
Cassangelo, I think the background color for the index bar can be changed in code. I will do so if possible.
sunfire7, I think offline playback would be a good feature to have. Although it is a bit of work, and I believe there are other features that should be implemented before that.
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_noel_, track lists with thumbnails are split to three lines in the next version. Looks better IMO.
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:) Great :)
Will JRemote some day be able to save a playlist on the iPad or in MC and use it later ?
Or is this technically not possible? (I'm wondering, because with Kinsky you can do that ...)
Regards
Eberhard
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Another question re: configuring display preferences in JRemote.
As previously mentioned, I have encoded my files in ALAC/AIFF, and have used the field Album Artist Sort Order such that Bob Dylan is alphabetized as Dylan, Bob and U2 is alphabetized as Utwo. I have set my default display preference in JRemote as Artists & Album, with the categories set as Album Artists Sort Order, followed by Year - Album.
My question: Is there a way to make JRemote display Bob Dylan as "Bob Dylan" (rather than Dylan, Bob), while still alphabetizing the artists using Album Artists Sort Order field?
Thanks in advance.
Tim
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sunfire7, I think offline playback would be a good feature to have. Although it is a bit of work, and I believe there are other features that should be implemented before that.
I'm glad you also think it would be a good feature, I can wait. I also dont mind paying again for a v2
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Tested some DLNA functionality yesterday.
Apparently, my Oppo player can not function as a DLNA renderer, so I could not test on that device.
However, I used my panasonic TV to test DLNA streaming, and everything worked.
Tracks added to the playlist was played in the correct order on the TV. No problems with first track repeating etc.
So the problem some of you are reporting can`t be a general problem, but more specific to some devices.
I will test further with a Squeezebox Touch later today.
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I am sure JRiver will add the option to save and add playlists in a future version. But it`s not possible at the moment.
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Lespaul do you know if there are plans to allow jriver to transcode non pm4 video files so they can be displayed through jremote?
it seems like so many element are already in place in jriver that is should be able to do such a thing in the future
it would be even better if it could analyze the streams from a video file (e. g. mkv) to see if they are native supported by the apple device.
for example the airvideo app already does this. so that some mkv files dont need to be transcoded at all.
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I'm having a problem with Jr running on a iP4 (iOS6) connected to MC18 running Win7. If i pick the 1st song in an album, so as to play all tracks, Jr will play one track and then only begin to play the 2nd, stop after a second, and then play all of the 3rd. It will continue to do this, playing every odd track (... Except if I were to force to to begin with the 2nd and then it will play every even track). Let me know if I can add any additional info ...
TIA :)
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Lespaul do you know if there are plans to allow jriver to transcode non pm4 video files so they can be displayed through jremote?
it seems like so many element are already in place in jriver that is should be able to do such a thing in the future
it would be even better if it could analyze the streams from a video file (e. g. mkv) to see if they are native supported by the apple device.
for example the airvideo app already does this. so that some mkv files dont need to be transcoded at all.
Transcoding works already for dlna. Maybe lespaul can tap into that.
Yes the way airvideo and plex can now play h264 embedded video with only reencoding the audio would be a great addition to mc. Best quality video and barely any load on the server.
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shAf, is this happening while streaming to device? I may have an idea about what may is happening.
Regarding transcoding. It seems like everything should be in place for this to work, but its not at the moment.
I had a conversation with Matt before Christmas trying to find a configuration that works. I guess I should spend some more time on this.
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Lespaul
I wish you could just one time respond to MY questions/comments as well...
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Lespaul
I wish you could just one time respond to MY questions/comments as well...
Chill........ There are so many comments, requests, suggestions and questions in here it would be a full time job to address every comment.
That said, your post above (i didn't bother looking for others) does NOT ask any questions at all. Not a one. You simply state a few things which I am sure LesPaul read and considered.
-Patrick
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At last I have got a response.. :) Better than nothing.
By the way , I said questions/comments, not just questions. Also I had some before with no reply at all.
Beside, I think I have right to complain. Lespaul can give his own response..
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ounal, as pcstockton mentioned, I dont really have time to reply to every post.
However, I do read every post, and make notes of bugs and suggestions.
I really do appreciate all the feedback in this thread, including yours.
Anyway, here are some comments to your last post.
-In the album view the bit rate is stated in lieu of the sampling rate (e.g. 2250 kHz)
Yes, it should be kbps, this is fixed.
- I would prefer the old font type. I wish the font style could be customisable.
Design is very subjective. If I make a design change I can be sure that opinion will be split down the middle.
I can`t really make everything customizable to please everyone, it would get overly complex with too many options.
- The pdf support is superb but it would be really nice if we could also open them in iBooks.
I`ll see if this is something I can add
- In the search view I miss the old colored pdf icon. It was easier to catch the pdf files.
I agree, It will be back in the next version
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Lespaul;
Thank you for the detailed replies.
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I'm still loving JRemote. Thanks for such a great tool. The other day I was using it and was struck with a possible feature. It's certainly nothing crucial but I thought I should throw it in the ring.
Currently, from the playing now screen I am able to click on the cover art and I get a full screen image of it. My inclination was to swipe on the fullscreen art to see other images that reside in the same folder. For example, in addition to maintaining nice and large folder.jpg's I often also have scans of the back covers, booklets, disks, etc.... Having them easily accessible from the full screen cover art view would be awesome!
If this feature request has already been brought up please accept my apologies and count me as a +1.
Thanks again!
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The program is now working intermittently with the Oppo BDP-105. The most common problem I am having now is that the program does not see the Oppo just minutes after everything working just fine. I have tried powering off and then on the Oppo, but this has not worked. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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ksa, JRemote does not currently update the zone list after the server has connected.
So if MC adds the Oppo player after JRemote has connected, it wont show.
A temorary fix for this is to reconnect to the server to refresh the zone list.
Is this the problem you are having, that the Oppo does not appear in the zone list?
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The latest version of JRemote always crashes on my iPad right after it connects and sets up. The last thing I see it do before the crash is ramp up the volume control. I'm using an iPad 3 with retina display. I've deleted and reinstalled the app to no avail. I can't use it at all, which is really troubling since it is the way I listen to music.
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I wonder if anybody else has the same issue:
When I have a category "album" and click on an album to see the tracks of it, then the correct album name is shown in the top title bar. But in the second lind (where the tag and shuffle buttons are) it always says "Various, Multiple albums" (and below that the total number of tracks of this album and the total time is shown).
Is this correct? I do not understand what "Various, Multiple albums" should mean. When I few one album there are not "multiple albums". Also "various" is not clear to me. First I thought it may mean that there are various artists in this album. But no, it is also shown, if the whole album is from one artist.
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I get this too, I've reported it before (somewhere in the last 18 pages!). I don't think it's anything particularly to do with JRemote, I think I've seen the same sort of symptoms in client J River, probably the way the album has been imported/analysed by the program and tagged (things like Complete Album...). But I can't see anything wrong with the tags that I've applied.
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Mmmmh, don't know. I have a custom view scheme 'Artists' in MC, which I use in the main window and also for Gizmo (Add as Library Item from Standard View), so these two should be the same.
In the main application I get everything correct. When I drill down to an album it tells me the "'album name' by 'artist'" (except if multiple artists, then it says "Various Artists"). However, in JRemote I still get "Various, mupltiple artists", even if the whole album is from one artist.
I think, it is related to JRemote, as the information is there. In the album overview the correct information is shown. Also after clicking on an album, the correct album name is shown in the title bar. I just do not understand what "Various, multiple artists" in the second line should mean.
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+1 Love this App as a companion for MC18 and glad to be out of the iTunes ecosystem and listening to flac's through my Oppo BDP-105. Great job!
A couple of things:
*I would love if the playlist I built on the fly was editable (delete/reorder) and written back to MC18 for the next session
*The FF function does not work for me. It moves but does not FF through the song
Thank you
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I've used JRemote since September last year and like it a lot. Actually I can not see myself using MC without JRemote. I do have a problem, however. Using JRemote MC server will crash, usually within 10 minutes. I restart MC and can play for up to half an hour or so before the next crash. This has happened with v17 and through all the versions of 18 up to .128. When playing from JRiver on the PC this does not happen so I assume it has something to do with JRemote's communication with MC.
Is this a known problem? I've had JRiver log the crash. Will this log be useful in seeing what is causing the crash? I'll add the log zip to my next post if it is.
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A couple of things:
*I would love if the playlist I built on the fly was editable (delete/reorder) and written back to MC18 for the next session
Thank you
Until the feature is added to the J River Web API this can't be added to JRemote. We all want it, hopefully Matt will add it it some day soon.
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I've used JRemote since September last year and like it a lot. Actually I can not see myself using MC without JRemote. I do have a problem, however. Using JRemote MC server will crash, usually within 10 minutes. I restart MC and can play for up to half an hour or so before the next crash. This has happened with v17 and through all the versions of 18 up to .128. When playing from JRiver on the PC this does not happen so I assume it has something to do with JRemote's communication with MC.
Is this a known problem? I've had JRiver log the crash. Will this log be useful in seeing what is causing the crash? I'll add the log zip to my next post if it is.
I'm not seeing this.
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I'm not seeing this.
I am still using XP. That may be part of the problem (even if is shouldn't) I'll attach the logs hoping that there is some traces of the reasons there.
EDIT: I have been running MC18 on an Intel DC3217IYE with Win7 64 for some days. No instability at all. So my XP installation was the problem
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Well Lespaul, I have had better luck with the program listing the BDP-105 as a zone. However, that still does not do me any good. I can put songs in the playlist and the blue playing icon does appear, but nothing plays. If I press the play button, the icon moves to the next song, but (again) nothing ever plays.
Kinsky does work with MC18 (with some other types of glitches, but at least it plays).
Will there be a fix for this? Is there some setting I can change to get the thing playing?
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Well Lespaul, I have had better luck with the program listing the BDP-105 as a zone. However, that still does not do me any good. I can put songs in the playlist and the blue playing icon does appear, but nothing plays. If I press the play button, the icon moves to the next song, but (again) nothing ever plays.
Kinsky does work with MC18 (with some other types of glitches, but at least it plays).
Will there be a fix for this? Is there some setting I can change to get the thing playing?
Are you able to control the BDP-105 from MC itself, without using JRemote, or does it exhibit the same symptoms? Also try WebGizmo and see if that has the same symptoms. Remember that JRemote is not controlling anything itself, it is simply communicating with the MC server and sending commands to it. If a renderer is not playing a song that MC is sending to it, then it's a problem with communication between MC and the device.
Kinsky, as I understand it, is a DLNA controller? In other words, it is Kinsky that is controlling the device, not the MC server.
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Hello all,
First time post here. I've read most, not all of this thread.
My interest in JRemote is to take advantage of the Oppo BDP-105's ability to function as a DLNA renderer.
I see some folks here seem to be going that route and I'd be keen to hear about their experiences, setup gotchas etc.
For info most of my use would be to pass video files (.mkv, .avi, etc.) to the Oppo, although I also will set up JRiver MC18 with all my .flac files as well, so I will be playing music on occasion.
In case it is relevant, the server with the .flac and video files is in an upstairs living room and is always on, connected to our stereo.
The Oppo is in a bat cave projection home theater located in the basement. The Oppo and the living room server are on a Powerline network (500 mbps).
Thanks for any and all comments/experiences. From my reading this should be a great setup.
Dave M
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See the post directly above yours! JRemote is a remote control for J River MC and, barring bugs, it will behave exactly as MC does. So your best bet is to make sure MC can see and control your Oppo via DLNA. I think some people have reported issues, which may or may not be due to DLNA-implementation or communication issues in MC or the Oppo or both. But those issues are probably best raised in the Media Network board rather than the J Remote board.
Once you have got MC working with the Oppo, you can install JRemote on an iDevice and it will work in the same way. JRemote does not communicate with devices itself, it's simply a remote control for MC. It would be like asking Harmony (the makers of remote controls) questions about whether one of your pieces of equipment will work with another.
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Thanks CSimon. I had read all of ksa's posts and some of LesPauls replies actually.
As you say it sounds like it works sometimes and not others. I'm still keen to hear about people's experiences using JRemote to connect to MC18 when they are using another device as a DLNA renderer.
But I do take your point and the Harmony analogy and will be looking for other posts/fora as well.
Best,
Dave M
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I use a WDTV Live as a DLNA renderer. JRemote works flawlessly with it, as expected, however in the last couple of weeks it has stopped working. You press the Play button and nothing happens.
However, this is a communication problem between MC and the WDTV. It has nothing to do with JRemote. The same thing happens when you try to control the WDTV from MC itself, except you get an explanatory error message saying "There was a problem controlling this DLNA device".
This issue is in discussion on the Media Network board. The problem it seems is a firmware update to the WDTV that has broken its recognition of MIME types. What MC is sending is not being recognised by the WDTV, or vice versa.
Whether it works or not isn't an issue for JRemote.
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Great, thanks again CSimon. Sounds like it should work fine.
One question that *is* definitely JRemote related is whether people have marked preferences for the iPod Touch, iPad mini, or iPad full size interface. I'm planning on buying one of these strictly for the downstairs home theater to allow me to control the upstairs audio server. The Touch is cheapest but for me I would expect the navigation experience would be better with one of the two iPad form factors.
Most people on this thread appear to be using an iPad - is it safe to say that is the preferred form factor?
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I have an iPad. I've been hankering after this sort of touchscreen media control from the sofa for many years, long before tablets and smartphones came out! I experimented with a 12" touchscreen monitor attached to a dual display PC running Meedio as it was the only media software that had any sort of dual-screen functionality, but there were issues such as dodgy dual screen control from Windows (it's really not designed for this, only one screen can run ActiveX, only one screen can have focus etc), the need to have power, VGA and USB cables attached to the monitor therefore, practically, it had to be mounted on a wall which means you have to get up off the sofa...
Windows Mobile devices were out there but these were too small for me. I wanted touchscreen control of an extensive collection of albums - I didn't want to be forever scrolling and squinting.
The concept of the 10-foot interface for use on TVs by media centers/boxes is flawed in my opinion. It's a bigger screen but simply because it's 10-feet away you can't really get any more items on it that you would on a hand-held device. And using a remote control where you have to press up and down and left and right buttons, and OK buttons and Select buttons, and Back and Return buttons, Page Up and Page Down buttons, is actually complicated, indirect and frustrating.
The iPad is the perfect size for this sort of thing. When it was announced, people said "Oh, it's just a bigger iPod". But that's the whole point! That's what makes it work and opens up a whole new area of applications that just weren't suitable for a phone-sized screen. And look what effect it's had on the market. I can't believe that PC manufacturers didn't see this coming and didn't have the foresight to do it before now, it was left to Apple to produce a smart but expensive version as they usually do and then everyone else has copied. There was already proven technology in the form of high-end multiroom home AV installations, home automation etc.
I also can't believe that J River themselves haven't forecast the rise of the hand-held remote at-the-sofa and it has been left to third party developers to take home media browsing and control out of keyboard and mouse PC environment. Even Theater View, which could be used on all-in-one touchscreen PCs if you want something wall-mounted or coffee-table, and now on Windows 8 tablets for that sofa experience, has been rather neglected in terms of touch compatibility.
Anyway, I digress! I can't see myself using anything smaller (or larger) sized than an iPad regular for this application. Your mileage may vary!
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i love remote...
some ideas....
dsp section...for me it would be great to have a headphone dsp change possibility...
and can you transfer the personnel library view or is this implemented only for the standard list?
thank u for this amazing app...
stephan
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Hi Stephan, I also got your mail, but I will respond here.
Unfortunately, the DSP options are not available from the web server API, so this is not possible until JRiver adds it.
Regarding your second question, I think what you are asking is how to add/edit views in JRemote.
You can do that from this location in MC:
Tools > Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo.
Regarding the DLNA problems reported. I still have no reason to believe that the issue is with JRemote. It has worked fine for the two devices I have tested.
Still, some Linn and Naim users have reported problems recently. I don`t have any of those devices, so It is very hard for me to test this.
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Just wondering if it might be useful to have a FAQs icon in the app itself. Maybe at the bottom of the left hand menu, or somewhere else where it is prominent but doesn't get in the way. It might help newbies being confused and to stop questions and answers being repeated here. Examples of content could be:
- Q. How do I change the views/sorting order? A. Tools > Options > Media Network > Advanced > Customize views for Gizmo & WebGizmo
- Q. Why is [MyDevice] not appearing as a Zone? A. Check if the device is listed on the MC server as a Zone. If so, reload JRemote. If not, check your MC and device and network settings, ask questions in Media Network forum, etc.
- Q. Why does a track not start playing? A. The device you are trying to play it on does not understand the format, or MC has a problem communicating with that device.
That sort of thing!
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Again, the latest version of JRemote always crashes on my iPad right after it connects and sets up. The last thing I see it do before the crash is ramp up the volume control. I'm using an iPad 3 with retina display. I've deleted and reinstalled the app to no avail. I can't use it at all. Any suggestions for fixing this or coming out with a new version that does not crash?
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csimon, I definately agree that a FAQ and help section inside JRemote is needed.
I will try to find the time to add this for the next version. At least I can make a simple version, and expand on it later.
BTW, the next version will include editable metatags and local search in all views.
I don`t have a date for it yet, but it is nearly done technically.
SteveGoff, can you contact me privately by mail. I would like to connect to your library to see if there are any problems.
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Is there any change search could eventually have auto complete? I remember the app for itunes has this.. Is it something though that has to be part of MC's web service first?
Will the search respect the rules for file display for the view that it is in? i.e. an audio view will only search audio..
cheers
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Just noticed something in my artists view when using the alphabet scroll bar when I hit M it goes to the top of the list.. It might be that I have the artist 808 state because the scroll bar doesn't show numbers, might I suggest a single symbol for all numbers since artists like these are not as common & having all numbers would clutter up the place..
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The local search will only search files that are in the actual view. So whatever is in there will be listed.
I may add the option to search on name, artist or album when in track listing views.
Of course, album views only have the name value, so no further options can be added there.
Local search is interactive in the way that it updates the view after each key press. It performs very fast even with 7000+ tracks.
Now, in the version after this I will finally tackle the dedicated search page. I have a few ideas here including the option to create and save custom search filters.
I wont be adding auto complete initially, but this could be a nice addition later.
Btw, regarding names that start with numbers. They should already be listed under "#". Could be a bug, so I will have to get back to you on this..
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Btw, regarding names that start with numbers. They should already be listed under "#". Could be a bug, so I will have to get back to you on this..
:-[ embarrassing forgot about that
anyway, here is some extra info in case they are causing the problems.
I have two artists with foreign characters
µ-Ziq & Özgür Can
I'm going though the list. A is effected as well, it goes straight to numerical artists. W & X go to artists beginning with T
I'm thinking it must be because I have those artists. My girlfriend has her own dedicated view where her music is segmented from mine. M works as expected. She doesn't have any artists beginning with W. But on a stranger note X is shown in the scroll bar on her view. She doesn't have any artists that begin with X.. Only "The xx" but my setup doesn't ignore articles (a, an, the) & it is grouped with other artists beginning with T
Hope this helps
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Thank you for the info. I will do some tests on this later today.
Btw, are you sure "Ignore articles in sort (a, an, the)" is not checked in JRemote settings?
JRemote will handle this seperate from MC, so whatever you set in MC will not be reflected in JRemote.
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Thank you for the info. I will do some tests on this later today.
Btw, are you sure "Ignore articles in sort (a, an, the)" is not checked in JRemote settings?
JRemote will handle this seperate from MC, so whatever you set in MC will not be reflected in JRemote.
You're right, it is checked in J Remote I didn't check J Remote, I forgot you set it there, I checked MC's options beforehand..
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LesPaul, can we have JRemote default to the server sort order?
I have a recent albums view that sorts by date added decending of course. When I view it in JRemote the default sort is alphabetical by default, I have to click the other sort order button, in webgizmo or gizmo it sorts appropriately by date added descending.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Dr Tone,
I plan to implement more sort options soon.
The problem with using default sort is that i have no way to tell how it should be grouped into sections.
But, I do plan to add several sort options. so for example if you sort by date, I can also group by date.
Actually, I`ll see if I can add this for the next release. Should not be too much work.
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Dr Tone,
I plan to implement more sort options soon.
The problem with using default sort is that i have no way to tell how it should be grouped into sections.
But, I do plan to add several sort options. so for example if you sort by date, I can also group by date.
Actually, I`ll see if I can add this for the next release. Should not be too much work.
That's great news.. I like being able to sort. The only way before for say Albums, was to have multiple different views, for different sorting orders.. Not nice at all. Or try to nest views, kind of gets ugly fast..
Dr Tone
You can allready sort an albums view, with server default if I know what you mean correctly. If you do it this way.. The only problem is that it renders the alphabetical scroll bar useless.
(http://thumbnails106.imagebam.com/23629/02e59f236281808.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/02e59f236281808)
Lespaul, when you add sorting options, when changing from a non alphabetical sort will the alphabetical scroll bar change to a normal scroll bar?
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Dr Tone
You can allready sort an albums view, with server default if I know what you mean correctly. If you do it this way.. The only problem is that it renders the alphabetical scroll bar useless.
(http://thumbnails106.imagebam.com/23629/02e59f236281808.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/02e59f236281808)
I am using custom sorting on the server side in my media network views. The problem is if it's the root list jremote ignores the server default and just does alphabetical as Les Paul mentions. If you drill down say albums under artists then it uses the server sort properly.
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Lespaul,
I've downloaded the latest beta of Media Center 18 and fiddled around, and your app no longer crashes. I'm not sure why only the iPad version was crashing, while the iPhone version was unaffected (and WebGizmo worked fine). But all is well now. Thanks agin for a great app.
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Hi Lespaul,
I still have a problem connecting with JRiver Media Center with WOL.
It takes a long time until the connection attempt aborts. At the time my server is online for several seconds! every time I have to click a second time on the connection icon. Then the connection is immediately there.
regards Erwin
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Is there any way to stream non-MP4 content through JRemote?
If I try streaming via DLNA to my TV for example, MC18 starts transcoding on-the-fly, but it doesn't seem to happen with JRemote for some reason.
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Is there any way to stream non-MP4 content through JRemote?
Not yet (well, not video, which is I assume what you meant).
It is on The To Do, from both JRiver and LesPaul. I don't think the changes needed are extreme, though. Transcoding/streaming works on Gizmo (Android) for many devices. But I think JRiver needs to do some work to make their transcoding/streaming system work with the right settings for Apple devices.
From the last look I had at it: They were close. They're transcoding to H264s in a TS container, and serving via HTTP, which is all right, but it still doesn't work. I think either the H.264 "profile" they're using isn't quite "iDevice-compliant" (though the iPhone 5 is pretty forgiving and I tested with that), OR the pseudo-streaming they're doing might be more simplistic than the Apple device is expecting, which causes the proper "streaming handling things" to not happen, when they could if the same content is wrapped and served differently.
Almost all of this is stuff JRiver needs to do on their side.
For now, the best is to use JRemote for music, and something like AirVideo for video support. That's not ideal as you can't see and browse by your tags and views in MC, but it works for now.
When we discussed it last as I tested, JRiver said that (after the Mac version comes out) some of their big "streaming priorities" are essentially this: making video playback work remotely via MCWS no matter the client (within reason).
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Lespaul I can't thank you enough for creating JRemote. I learned about your application on avsforum.com and immediately purchased it. It allows me to enjoy all of the music on my server upstairs, played on my high end audio system downstairs, with my iPad in my lap running the selections. Over the past 10 years I have built numerous HTPC systems and invested hundreds of hours looking for your interface application. Wanted you to know I am using it first to render with a micca ep600g2 media streamer as a DLNA zone. Like your Oppo my original oppo bdp-83se is not a renderer, but my new oppo bdp-105 arrives Wednesday and it is a DLNA renderer and player. There are likely hundreds of new JRemote customers following the oppo DLNA topic on avsforum.
What amazed me with your app was that it worked immediately the first call. I first purchased my river and was unable to keep jriver 18 from crashing with that app. Yours works perfectly. Count me as a satisfied JRemote customer who will spread the word for you.
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Is there any way to have JRemote hibernate the host machine when the current playlist is finished?
I just managed to fall asleep while streaming video out to my iPad, which left the iPad screen on (the "prevent screen from dimming" option was enabled) and my HTPC running all night.
And it would be nice to swap the volume and seek controls in the UI somehow. I never adjust volume on my HTPC, but I often want to seek through videos. Having to slide out that control every time is a nuisance.
Not yet (well, not video, which is I assume what you meant).
It is on The To Do, from both JRiver and LesPaul. I don't think the changes needed are extreme, though. Transcoding/streaming works on Gizmo (Android) for many devices. But I think JRiver needs to do some work to make their transcoding/streaming system work with the right settings for Apple devices.
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I did mean video. Thanks for the information. Seems like I will need to either purchase AirVideo or wait.
Does AirVideo work with DVDs (i.e. dealing with menus to start playback) or just video files?
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hi guys, i love this app it does what it mean do really well, i just have one problem, when im playing on my ipad every time that the sound end and start the next one it skip that tune and play the next one, so im playing sound number 1 finish 1 start 2, play for 2 sec and skip 2 and start play 3, anyone have this problem?
thanks in advanced
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I've been using this JRemote since I bought my iPhone 4s almost a year ago, but since the last update, I have a problem with the albumart.
Somehow, on the "now playing" screen, the albumart sometimes disappears and it only comes back after playing a few songs.
I've tried removing the cached albumart, but that didn't solve the problem.
I have Media center 16 and use JRemote only to control the laptop, not te stream it to the phone itself.
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I've been using this JRemote since I bought my iPhone 4s almost a year ago, but since the last update, I have a problem with the albumart.
Somehow, on the "now playing" screen, the albumart sometimes disappears and it only comes back after playing a few songs.
I've tried removing the cached albumart, but that didn't solve the problem.
I have Media center 16 and use JRemote only to control the laptop, not te stream it to the phone itself.
May I suggest you upgrade to MC 18. It contains some cool additions to API that JRemote has implemented. Current playing playlist management being the big one. Plus I'm certain your art problem will go away as well.
.02
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I've got a strange one....
I am only seeing "Play Doctor" as an option when connected to my HTPC.
I am not seeing it connected to my "Server"
Just to clarify, I share my load my "Server" library on the "HTPC".
I always stream to JRemote from the Server.
Wait... just tried a few other things. I cant stream to my device with Play Doctor?
Thanks!
Patrick
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I'd love to see the year and album was released in when browsing artists > albums. it would be also nice if it were in a column so it could be sorted by year instead of title. that whay the albums can be listed chronologically. for the browse album tabs however this would not realy make much sense just inside "artist"
cheers
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I'd love to see the year and album was released in when browsing artists > albums. it would be also nice if it were in a column so it could be sorted by year instead of title. that whay the albums can be listed chronologically. for the browse album tabs however this would not realy make much sense just inside "artist"
cheers
Spend some time configuring your media sharing views in MC. Everything you request is possible already.
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I've changed my settings in MC's section for DLNA devices.
I have un-installed JRemote and re-installed.
Tried a new Library Key.
Disable DLNA - re-enable.
Used the clear cached images feature.
My old view still remains, why? ?
EDIT - looks like a close/re-open of MC is needed. (I had tags running so didn't test that)
cheers!
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Spend some time configuring your media sharing views in MC. Everything you request is possible already.
thanks i will look into this
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New user to JRemote. worth every penny. thank you for the great app.
i do have a question.
i have a playlist set on the server side that points to my radio stream. it points to http:// #######.dyndns.org:8050 (of course ### is not real)
my client mc18 will play the stream which is 128kbit aac2.
i am unable to play this in JRemote. could this be a possible future release?
Scott
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May I suggest you upgrade to MC 18. It contains some cool additions to API that JRemote has implemented. Current playing playlist management being the big one. Plus I'm certain your art problem will go away as well.
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I gave it a try, but the artwork still fails to load from time to time.
Strange.
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Are there any plans to allow a user to create/modify playlists/smart playlists?
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Are there any plans to allow a user to create/modify playlists/smart playlists?
You can do this now with MC18.
-patrick
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You can do this now with MC18.
-patrick
This is a JRemote thread. And no you can't do that yet even with MC18.
Creating and saving modifying playlists isn't part of the J River Web API at the moment. Maybe some day it will get high enough on Matt's enhancement list.
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shAf, is this happening while streaming to device? I may have an idea about what may is happening. ...
Sorry to be late in responding ... I thought I'd be notified ...
In any case, yes, it happens when streaming tracks to mi iP4 ... usually while trying to listen to a selected album, not a playlist
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This is a JRemote thread. And no you can't do that yet even with MC18.
Creating and saving modifying playlists isn't part of the J River Web API at the moment. Maybe some day it will get high enough on Matt's enhancement list.
Yes I realize what thread we are in. I can create and modify playlists. I thought that is what he was asking about. He didn't say anything about "saving".
-Patrick
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Yes I realize what thread we are in. I can create and modify playlists. I thought that is what he was asking about. He didn't say anything about "saving".
-Patrick
Semantics, to me "Playing Now Playlist" != Playlists
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Allright,
I did a search and couldn't come up with the answer.
I downloaded JRemote for my iPad.
Tried to enter the code I got with Media Center, but it does not work.
Am I heading down the wrong path here? This is the only password I've gotten of any kind from J River.
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Hi,
JRemote is the best remote control system I ever seen for JRiver.
There is juste one thing I do not know how to do.
I added my own customized views (for series for exemple) that I plugged into the theater view.
But I can not see them on JRemote. Just able to see default views like video, audio, images, ...
Is there any possibility to "synchronize" views between JRiver and JRemote ?
Regards.
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JRiver has an independent views system for each "view". The views that JRemote uses are the ones that JRiver publishes through its web services and Gizmo, so I'm afraid you need to duplicate your Theater View views in Tools/Media Network/Advanced/Customise Views for Gizmo and Web Gizmo.
The different view systems are as follows:
Standard View (what you see in the main JRiver program, like Windows Media Player or any other media player)
Theater View
DLNA
Gizmo/Web Services
There is as yet no facility to synchronise views between each of these areas, you have to set each one up separately. However, if you set your views up in Standard View first then each other area has a facility to copy views from Standard View when you go to add a menu item or a category. (Add Item From Standard View...)
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Hi,
Here below how my theater view is configured out.
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8782/41976504.jpg)
If there is a way to get this on JRemote...
Update: Didn't read your post above the mine.
Ok, I'll try this but it's really no "user friendly". I hope (in a future) we will have a synchronize button or functionality to get this automatically.
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See my post above! You need to set the same view up in Tools/Media Network/Advanced/Customise Views for Gizmo and Web Gizmo.
I don't know why you've got individual categories for the series though. The "Series TV" level should be enough and let JRiver index the individual series.
In my Gizmo/JRemote view I have a level called TV Shows which contains a category called Program, containing the expression TVInfoo(SeriesDisplay) and JRiver does all the hard work of sorting out the programs, the series and the seasons. If you need more help on how to configure vieds in JRiver, ask a question in the MC18 forum.
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Here below how my theater view is configured out.
Why do you have individual views designed for your different shows? If you just have [Series] and [Season] added to the main view, you'll have effectively the same thing. If there are certain series you don't want included, you can also filter them out at the same time.
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Why do you have individual views designed for your different shows? If you just have [Series] and [Season] added to the main view, you'll have effectively the same thing. If there are certain series you don't want included, you can also filter them out at the same time.
Last time I tried this, this not worked as expected... But maybe I did something wrong.
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Any plans to allow Playlist Management features like create playlists, add to playlists, etc. ?
Thanks for the taking MC to another level.
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Any plans to allow Playlist Management features like create playlists, add to playlists, etc. ?
Thanks for the taking MC to another level.
You have to bug Matt first. There is no way for LesPaul to do this until Matt adds the methods/options to the MC web api.
It seems to get asked for at least once every couple of weeks by someone new. Remote control features are pretty important to allot of us.
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See my post above! You need to set the same view up in Tools/Media Network/Advanced/Customise Views for Gizmo and Web Gizmo.
I don't know why you've got individual categories for the series though. The "Series TV" level should be enough and let JRiver index the individual series.
In my Gizmo/JRemote view I have a level called TV Shows which contains a category called Program, containing the expression TVInfoo(SeriesDisplay) and JRiver does all the hard work of sorting out the programs, the series and the seasons. If you need more help on how to configure vieds in JRiver, ask a question in the MC18 forum.
I tried your way.
1 - Add a library view called "Series-TV".
2 - Customized settings:
View as categories: Series & season
Set rules for file display : Volume Name is Y: (windows share where my series tracks are).
Everything is fine with this (same result as for my older way to do things).
Now I've just to link one object (Series-TV) to the Gismo / WebGizmo advanced settings.
It works !!
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Allright,
I did a search and couldn't come up with the answer.
I downloaded JRemote for my iPad.
Tried to enter the code I got with Media Center, but it does not work.
Am I heading down the wrong path here? This is the only password I've gotten of any kind from J River.
From JRiver Media Center: Tools/Options/Media Network/Access Key
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I'm using iPod Touch, model MC540C, firmware version 6.0.1 (10A523) with latest JRemote. For some reason adding ratings does not work. I have show ratings enabled. I can see ratings of previously rated tracks. I can access the add rating feature and it appears to let me add a rating.
The problem is the ratings are not being applied. Once the track finishes playing and next track starts, checking in playlist shows no rating. Checking JRiver itself also shows no rating being applied. I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling JRemote, no change. I have all my sync settings to server setup correctly. I had been thinking this was a problem with some settings in J River so I tried My River and ratings work correctly. Based on all this I can only assume this is a problem with J Remote.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks.
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In any case, yes, it happens when streaming tracks to my iP4 ... usually while trying to listen to a selected album, not a playlist
LesPaul ... sorry to bump my original query, but you stated you thought you might know why the playback via JRemote was skipping tracks, but you asked to make sure it was happening while streaming to my iPhone ...
In any case, yes, that's the case. my iPhone will play the 1st track, and then play only the first several seconds of the 2nd track, then skip to the 3rd, play all of the 3rd ... and then skip similarly to the 5th. I don't know if it's JRemote, or if I should configure the media server differently(?) Please advise ...
TIA :)
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Lespaul, can you make "Play Doctor" an option we can enable or disable? I have had guests hit it by accident and wipe out the current playing list. Very annoying when you spent a good amount of time building the playlist.
I'd like to disable it completely in J River but I'm quite certain that will never be added as an option.
Thanks!
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Lespaul,
Wanted to check in on the ability to add a keyboard so we can do searches from within theater view. I think you mentioned that was implementable and that you'd be incorporating.
Not sure if this is possible, but using the track pad in the remote tab to control a mouse when not in theater view would also be awesome for when we have mc launch a browser for streaming (ie hbogo). Realize that might require an additional app on the computer or interfacing with one of the computer mouse apps that already exist.
Thanks for the great work!
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We would like to announce that we will be releasing a new app shortly that will let you control MC from any iOS device running iOS 3.0 or later.
Features include browsing artists, albums ,playlists and videos as well as a dedicated search. In addition JRemote includes a virtual touchpad that will let you take full control of JRiver`s theater view.
Any hope for an Android version?
Ekpen.
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There's already an Android app for MC, published by JRiver. It is called Gizmo, and it is quite nice:
http://wiki.jriver.com/index.php/Gizmo
It, frankly, wouldn't make a lot of sense for Lespaul to "compete" with JRiver in that. The Android version supports video streaming too, by the way.
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Recent audio imports are not in track order. These do have the track numbers in the MC tags and are in track order in MC. They were ripped with dBpoweramp and all have the correct track number in the file tags.
There is no apparent logic to the order that JRemote is displaying them, not alphabetical, or file size, as far as I can tell.
Any ideas?
Thanks
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The order in which JRemote displays tracks is determined by the Gizmo/WebGizmo views in MC. Can you have a look at the configuration to see what order is being specified.
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I would have a feature suggestion:
I use many playlists to have music for different events and moods. When listening to music I often wonder, if I have already added this song to one or more playslists I see fit.
So, it would be perfect, if the playlists the song is in, are listed in the tags view. JRiver actually gives this information in the tags list but not JRemote.
Of course, it would be perfect to add/remove a song from playlists, and I really hope that this feature will be added to the API soon. I have the feeling many people are waiting for this.
But for now the information would also help greatly. Any chance for implementation?
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Is there any reason why JRemote would not work properly on the same music server when that server is switching zones between two output devices (in this case DAC's)?
I realize this is not a JRemote forum, but I'm hoping someone might have some experience with JRemote and switching zones who could comment.
I tried doing the above myself and ran into problems. I will see, if necessary, if I can get an answer from the JRemote folks as well.
Thanks,
Joel
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I don't think there's any reason wy it would not work, apart from bugs, zone swtichign works for me. In what way are you geting problems, and do you get the same problems when doing the same thing in JRiver itself?
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The order in which JRemote displays tracks is determined by the Gizmo/WebGizmo views in MC. Can you have a look at the configuration to see what order is being specified.
There is nothing specific about track order listing in my "Advanced" section under the Media Network options.
I have specified under Audio for alphabetical Album Artist followed by alphabetical Album. Nothing further. This is how I do it in Theatre View and it works fine - I can see a list of tracks in numerical track order after I pass the Album level.
When I include Track# I get an extra layer in JRemote where the selection goes from Album to Track# to track, ie an extra level to drill down, without showing the entire listing of tracks in that album.
Any ideas?
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I have specified under Audio for alphabetical Album Artist followed by alphabetical Album. Nothing further. This is how I do it in Theatre View and it works fine - I can see a list of tracks in numerical track order after I pass the Album level.
Theatre View does sometimes make its own assumptions and guesses and "modifies" the views that have been specified in order to present to you what it thinks you want, whereas other places may take the views literally.
Try adding a sort rule in Rules For File Display, to sort by Track # ascending. This should explicitly sort the files by track # instead of creating another category/level.
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I don't think there's any reason wy it would not work, apart from bugs, zone swtichign works for me. In what way are you geting problems, and do you get the same problems when doing the same thing in JRiver itself?
Thanks for your response, csimon.
I switch between redbook cd files and DSD files.
When playing redbook cd files, all appears just fine as the files play.
But when I play DSD files, nothing moves on the screen. While the files play in MC, the time counter in JRemote doesn't move off of 0:00, there's no indication of which track is playing, the pause, and the next track buttons don't work, etc.
Any idea why this would be happening?
Thanks,
Joel
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Does this work in JRiver itself? Why are you asking about problems with zone switching? You are not switching zones.
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Does this work in JRiver itself? Why are you asking about problems with zone switching? You are not switching zones.
I didn't try out every feature in JRiver, but when I remote in to the server, the time counter is moving and I can play and pause the music.
Joel
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So to summarise what the problem is:
CD files play OK on both DACs in both MC and JRemote
DSD files play in MC on both DACS in both MC and JRemote but the controls do not work in JRemote
Is that correct?
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So to summarise what the problem is:
CD files play OK on both DACs in both MC and JRemote
DSD files play in MC on both DACS in both MC and JRemote but the controls do not work in JRemote
Is that correct?
Almost. CD files play in both devices. DSD files play in only one device, which is why I have two devices. JRemote controls the files just fine when playing CD files on the one device. But JRemote doesn't work properly when I'm playing DSD files on the second device. I should add that before I had the zones in place, I could control either device just fine via JRemote.
It's just that the zones make the operation of both devices much easier.
Does that help?
Thanks a lot.
Joel
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It is possible that JRemote will work with MC 18.0.146 for Mac now.
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79101.0
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Hi guys, I have moved JRemote to a new thread.
This thread has grown too big. Thank you for all the comments, bug reports and feature requests:)
You can find the new thread here:
http://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php?topic=79104.0